|
 Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
 MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
 
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
 Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) 
#387931 - 09/07/01 12:18 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
This is my small setup with perlite humidification, my Rh is 95% and temp. is arround 75F-78F, it fits into a closet, so it's pretty dark inside.
This is my casing, it's only half of the original because i lost the other half to contams, what you see was saved using 1:10 - H2O2:H2O solution , the top layeris a 50% peat moss/ 50% natural grit, this layer was applied after treating the contams. The case was elevated to have access to more fresh air and less Co2 and less humidity to start the pinning process, fanning 2 time a day. Now my questions are, do i need to expose them to more light? or a slight open door (of the closet) will do it ? Do i need to cold shock the casing or let it go by it's natural process ?
A close up.
The natural brit stuff, it's used in pingeon beds, it's made of silica rock, crushed oyster shells and a red porous rock, i can tell you that it works great if used with peat moss as a top casing layer, it was sterilized BTW.
So, what do you think ? Any help is apreciated!!
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSREdited by MAIA on 09/10/01 04:43 AM.
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
 
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
 puscle
genius of love
Registered: 01/06/01
Posts: 4,539
Loc: NY
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#387935 - 09/07/01 12:26 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
You want the humidity high to initiate pinning. Then drop it for fruiting.
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: puscle]
#387948 - 09/07/01 12:47 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
Thanks puscle! I'm allways learning.
Anyway, should it be more than 95%Rh ?
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,162
Loc: my room
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#387957 - 09/07/01 12:54 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
Hmm, I don?t want to sound pessimistic, but this casing somehow doesn?t look right. How fast did this mycelium spread over the casing surface?
It looks a bit like the cobweb mold.
-------------------
Visit www.fungifun.org formerly kickme.to/mushrooms
Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)
|
puscle
genius of love
Registered: 01/06/01
Posts: 4,539
Loc: NY
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#387960 - 09/07/01 12:57 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
95% is fine. Good eye, Anno, that "mycelia" looks a bit grey.
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: Anno]
#387969 - 09/07/01 01:20 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
It spread slowlly, i was also worried about the texture of the mycellium being to "hairy" and they seam a bit grey before they gain volume, i guess this strain is not so ryzomorphic as others. Anyway, their growth was accelerated 3 days ago when i leveled up the casing. It can only be one of two things, they like air a lot or it's cobweb mold. I'm a realistic guy.... i'll keep my eye on it, i'll keep you updated. Thanks Anno!
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
Billyblastoff
Psychoactivepredator
Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 725
Loc: Down these mean city stre...
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: puscle]
#387991 - 09/07/01 01:50 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
From my eye (which I admit has not seen ahelluva lot) I thought it looked kinda "whispy" or "thin" and I made this ob before I read Anno's post. I didnt notice anything wrong with the color. Im curious as to how this turned out.
Hope its OK....
Tell me something good then I might agree with you..
--------------------
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."
"There is a wealth of information built into us, tucked away in the genetic material in every one of our cells. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature."
Tell me something good then I might agree with you....the Smithereens
|
Mitchnast
Toadmonger
Registered: 10/27/99
Posts: 8,655
Loc: Okanagan
Last seen: 6 hours, 30 minutes
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#387997 - 09/07/01 02:00 PM (22 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
youre using pidgeon grit? fucking genius!
ha ha ha!
try pummince as well. you can get your own grit from a dead chickens crop
dans le silence du poisson-lune
plilosophait au fond des brumnes
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#389965 - 09/10/01 03:34 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
So ? I'm back with good news i think. Well, look at this pics 3 days after the first post and tell me if there's any contam. , i guess not. It's your call,
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
Una
controlleddemolition
Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 970
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#389966 - 09/10/01 03:38 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
that's no mushroom mycelium for sure. Looks a lot like cobweb mold though.
Need spores? We got spores!
Visit MUSHMUSH
for the highest quality exotic mushroom spores.
info@mushmush.nl
--------------------
www.911blogger.com
|
fresh357
addict
Registered: 09/02/01
Posts: 493
Last seen: 21 years, 5 months
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#389968 - 09/10/01 03:43 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
looks like mycelium to me.
tough one, but id call that mycelium.
|
3DSHROOM
loon
Registered: 04/19/99
Posts: 2,878
Last seen: 10 years, 7 months
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: fresh357]
#390023 - 09/10/01 07:04 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
What does it smell like?
________________________
Webmaster of the Shroomery
3dshroom@shroomery.org
http://www.shroomery.org
--------------------
Your friendly neighborhood loon
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: 3DSHROOM]
#390040 - 09/10/01 07:51 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
No strange smell, just "earthy".
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
McMan
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/04/00
Posts: 661
Loc: USA
|
Post deleted by users_request [Re: MAIA]
#390181 - 09/10/01 11:52 AM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: McMan]
#390198 - 09/10/01 12:19 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
A few quest. then,
1.
Will it ever pin ?
2.
Isn't it hard for a first time grower to try cultivating a weak strain ?
3.
If i achieve this stage of development with this strain what makes you think of what i'll do if i got a stronger strain ?
I think i know the answer to this one: CABOOOOOMMMMM!!! a shitload of shrooms!!! BRING ME SOME B+ !!!!!!! AH! AH! AH!
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
puscle
genius of love
Registered: 01/06/01
Posts: 4,539
Loc: NY
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#390231 - 09/10/01 01:00 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
1) Yes, it will pin.
2) It's harder for all of us.
3) That mycelia can turn rhizo in the casing process.
The B + is great, as long as you get it from a decent vendor.
Edited by puscle on 09/10/01 02:27 PM.
|
CLuB99
lost somewhere in time and space
Registered: 10/26/99
Posts: 1,316
Loc: my mind
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#390247 - 09/10/01 01:22 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
1. probably not
2. a bit
3 ?????
i don't understand why u guys instead of following well experimented routes you go into sperimentation...
why using pigeon grit when you can case with verm-peat or coco coir....
next time try well tested recipes, you'll see better resylts...
IL_FUNGO_SACRO la coltivazione, gli enteogeni, in italiano
Support the FSR
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,162
Loc: my room
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#390446 - 09/10/01 04:54 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
> No strange smell, just "earthy".
Does it smell like cubensis mycelium? Or just earthy?
-------------------
Visit www.fungifun.org formerly kickme.to/mushrooms
Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)
|
My Third Eye
old hand
Registered: 11/02/00
Posts: 641
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: Anno]
#390480 - 09/10/01 05:30 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
whats wrong with experimenting? thats how people find new ways to do things..most likely he hasnt stumbled upon anything great but i think its cool that he is trying something different anyway..
i think it will pin
i dont think youll have a problem with it if you have patience.
never tried B+
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
We cannot see to reach an end crippling our communication
--------------------
suddenly a flaming stealth banana split the sky
like one would hope but never really expect
to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime
and stopping right at my Birkenstocks,
and me yelping...Holy fucking shit!
|
Ozone
newbie
Registered: 09/10/01
Posts: 33
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (pics) [Re: MAIA]
#390492 - 09/10/01 05:42 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
One of the first signs I can see already is you having 95% RH means you are not getting good air exchange. For casing you only need 85% and I can tell you this from years of experience. You need no cold shocking as long as you run from 72 - 78. You can run lighting 24 hrs but a nice 6 or 8 hour dark cycle helps to reduce RH drops.
Air exchange is the key, thats why you see these long stemmed shrooms that fall over in the tupperware containers that get fanned but this is not enough. Cool mists are ok, but an airpump running 24 hrs will do wonders.
First off go to Ryches site at www.thehawkseye.com and look at the tips section on terrarium setups.
Then look at this setup, scroll down to the ecuadorsetup.jpg files and look at these ecuadors.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Creek/3715
Air exchange is what its all about and fair amounts of humidity FOR CASINGS! PF naked cake style is the only mehtod that needs high humidity. Lack of air exchange is why people get contamination also.
Hope this helps.Edited by Ozone on 09/10/01 06:51 PM.
--------------------
Ozone
|
Anonymous
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) [Re: MAIA]
#390501 - 09/10/01 05:53 PM (22 years, 23 days ago) |
|
|
What kind of contaminant did you originally have, before peroxide was used. Was it at the Jar stage or after laying out in tray? Was that a multispore inoculation into jars via syringe. How many jars were layed out in that tray? Was the mycelium ever healthy looking? Did it always have a wispy appearance? When it was colonizing did it have cottony sections in the jars?
After looking at those pictures all I can do is ask questions!!!!!!
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,162
Loc: my room
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) [Re: ]
#390844 - 09/10/01 11:06 PM (22 years, 22 days ago) |
|
|
Good questions, should solve this riddle
-------------------
Visit www.fungifun.org formerly kickme.to/mushrooms
Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)
|
NDK
member
Registered: 07/13/01
Posts: 186
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) [Re: Anno]
#390949 - 09/11/01 02:19 AM (22 years, 22 days ago) |
|
|
Can anyone give any links to pictures of casings that are ideal so - for comparison purposes?
|
Anno
Experimenter
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,162
Loc: my room
Last seen: 1 day, 11 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) [Re: NDK]
#390959 - 09/11/01 03:34 AM (22 years, 22 days ago) |
|
|
Ideally the mycelium shouldn?t colonize the surface of the casing.
-------------------
Visit www.fungifun.org formerly kickme.to/mushrooms
Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)
|
MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 7,391
Loc: Erra - 20 Tauri - M45 Sta...
Last seen: 1 day, 15 hours
|
Re: Casing to fruiting questions (**UPDATE**pics) [Re: NDK]
#390970 - 09/11/01 04:25 AM (22 years, 22 days ago) |
|
|
Thanks everybody for your replies. As for the airpump idea goes, it is allready implemented ;). Sprayed the casing with h2o2 and mycelium is growing back again.
CLuB, i don't have verm or coco coir where i live, so i got to come up with some alternatives, i do have peat, so i had to use it with something holding moisture, that grit just seemed right, the red rock is porous and substitutes verm very nicely, then you got the oister shells that also is used in top layers.
Anno, good question, cubensis mycelium smells earthy and mushie to me (as i never gave attention to its particular smell).
Teonan, the other half had trich, so i dumped it and used perioxide on the good half just to make sure. The contam started to grow when i had the casing covered on its vegetative growth, it stayed too long and had allmost no air exchanged. It was a multispore inoculation into ONE jar via syringe using PF TeK, PC and sterile procedures were followed. The mycelium was allways healthy looking and it did allways had a wispy appearance, it has allways been cottony, even with the new jars a made recently. That's why i think what McMan says could be true, i started looking at some pics of rizos and i had nothing compared to that, just wispy mycelium, every experiment i made with this strain (first and only strain) grows mycelium that way, i think is pure bad luck with the strain, jar colonization time is OK (2 to 3 weeks), but its growth isn't explosive in any way.
I now know i made a mistake when i ordered the strain, i didn't know there were easy strains and dificult strains, but then.... I didn't know about the shroomery.
Peace,
MAIA
"Houston, we have a problem... shrooms are over "
=)Free&Spread the Spores(=
Support the FSR
--------------------
Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
|
|
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Boomr Bag 
Buy Kratom Capsules 
Buy Super Blended Green Sumatra 
Kratom Powder for Sale 
Red Vein Kratom 
Liquid Cultures 
Bulk Cannabis Seeds
Edit 
Reply 
Purplehaze32
NerdKiller
MisterShroom