|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Gottaloveacid
Weedbass



Registered: 10/20/14
Posts: 3,421
Loc: Colorado, USA
|
Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? 1
#23328255 - 06/10/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.
This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping
--------------------
 The greatest story ever told is the story that never ends! wubba lubba dub dubstep
|
Northerner
splelling chceker


Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 14,136
Loc: FNQ
Last seen: 31 minutes, 6 seconds
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#23328396 - 06/10/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I've had it to the point I've been worried for my safety on various drugs. You're not alone.
--------------------
The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.
|
howsyournaggerdoin
Happy


Registered: 02/04/16
Posts: 1,600
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Northerner]
#23328405 - 06/10/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I have had several experiences with HBWR so im quite familiar with vasoconstriction. Ive tried my drugs and methods to counter it and found that the best way is to go far a walk during the comeup. Once you are peaking you should be able to go inside and lay down.
|
Dr. Delban
Incognito hippie in disguise


Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 2,015
Loc: UK
Last seen: 1 month, 4 days
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
#23328509 - 06/10/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I get severe swelling in my hands and feet when dosed 50ug and more. I take antihistamines to be able to trip. Otherwise I would never be able to take 300ug. I believe I am having an allergic reaction and not vasoconstriction I guess.
Maybe you should try taking some aspirin before tripping?
-------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban] 1
#23328549 - 06/10/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I take a half of a viagra before tripping because of the extreme vasoconstriction....otherwise it is extremely painful in my feet. Viagra is a great vasodilator ...it is what it was originally intended for...the hard weiner part was just a side effect....a multi-billion dollar side effect.lol
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
krypto2000
Unknown


Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 11,579
Last seen: 4 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23328643 - 06/10/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I do with LSD, but not mushrooms. I have arthritis all over my body as well as some muscle aches and the last time I took L about 6 hours in I could hardly move. Everything was so sore, it was as though my joints were all frozen, this in turn caused bad anxiety and rumination on it. I went for a walk and it helped. I think in part it was bc I was being fairly active earlier, which hurt my joints, and then I sat around causing them to stiffen up and the pain to set in, plus I was not as distracted by activity. Mushrooms on the other hand tend to be neutral or even help my arthritis.
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,308
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 16 minutes, 30 seconds
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#23328947 - 06/10/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Gottaloveacid said: I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.
This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping
For me, i get it pretty bad. And in the worst spot, my junk area. So embarassing 
Looking for a cure....
-------------------- "What you must understand is that your physical dimension affects everyone in the higher dimensions as well. All things are interconnected. All things are One. Therefore, if one dimension is broken or out of balance, then all other dimensions will experience repercussions." - Pleiadian Prophecy 2020 The New Golden Age by James Carwin PROJECT BLUE BOOK ANALYSIS! (312 pages!) | Psychedelics & UFOs | Ready to Contact UFOs? | The Source on Mushrooms | Trippy Gematrix | Dj TeknoLogical | Fentanyl Test Kits R.I.P. Big Worm || The Start of the Ascension Process was 2020. Welcome to the Next Great Era of Earth đđđ
  Oregon Eclipse Festival 2017 :: Aug 19th - 21st :: Pure Paradise   Very Effective LSA Extraction Tek | đ§ Advanced Cold Water LSA Extraction Method đ§ |  Mescajuana - Mescaline with Marijuana | DMT Dab Bongs | UFO Technology! Shpongle
     
|
Eclipse3130
Servant of the Fungi



Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 6,220
Loc: PNW
Last seen: 3 hours, 53 minutes
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23329037 - 06/10/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Never really had vasoconstriction, my body always feels in bliss or energy on L, I also don't dose high though, use CBD natural anti anxiety and vaso relaxant
|
gornyhuy
A Myth Intrepidly Met



Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 2,933
Loc: USA
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23329086 - 06/10/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Quote:
Gottaloveacid said: I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.
This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping
For me, i get it pretty bad. And in the worst spot, my junk area. So embarassing 
Looking for a cure....
Look into:
- Cayenne Pepper
- Garlic
- Ginkgo Biloba
- aspirin
- viagra
- Yohimbine
- Ginger
These are all vasodilators that can be taken as supplements before you dose up. Many of them are really effective.
|
YeOlde
Stranger


Registered: 04/19/14
Posts: 647
Loc: UK
Last seen: 4 years, 4 months
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23329164 - 06/10/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I hear Niacin was mentioned by Albert Hoffman to ease LSD constriction and it's apparently a known dilator that can be taken before a trip.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,308
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 16 minutes, 30 seconds
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23329166 - 06/10/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|

Is Viagra over the counter?
And is aspirin better than ibeprophan (sp?)?
|
Hygrocybe
Walkin Wonderland



Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1,227
Last seen: 4 months, 29 days
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy] 1
#23329471 - 06/10/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).
|
Dr. Delban
Incognito hippie in disguise


Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 2,015
Loc: UK
Last seen: 1 month, 4 days
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hygrocybe]
#23329721 - 06/10/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Hygrocybe said: Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).
I was about to mention raw cacao. Raw cacao is so amazing I cannot believe people still drink coffee. Seriously. Everyone start taking raw cacao daily NOW.
-------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,308
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 16 minutes, 30 seconds
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#23330316 - 06/10/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
But its so hard to find!
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,555
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#23330360 - 06/10/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Depends entirely on the psychedelic involved for me. I get vasoconstriction on phenethylamines like 2CE, 25i/d/c, allylescaline, etc. to varying degrees. However, with 4-aco-dmt and psilocybin, I get the opposite effect vasodilation. With 4-ho-met and 4-ho-mipt, I don't notice any effect either way.
YMMV.
|
gornyhuy
A Myth Intrepidly Met



Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 2,933
Loc: USA
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy] 1
#23338683 - 06/13/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Thanks for additions.
Updated List (in no particular order):
- Cayenne Pepper
- Garlic
- Ginkgo Biloba
- Viagra / cialis / horny goat weed
- L-arginine
- L-citruline
- Watermelon
- Quercetin
- Raw Cacao
- Niacin
- Yohimbine
- Ginger
- THC / Weed
No, viagra is not OTC, but you can get a milder form of the same PDE5 inhibition from horny goat weed.
Niacin has the added benefit of mild anti-anxiety (see also niacinamide or vitamin B3), but it does cause a pretty strong flush in most people which might be uncomfortable while tripping.
I removed aspirin and didn't add ibuprofen because I've read conflicting reports on if they are vasodilators at all. Couldn't hurt, but might not help.
Also, added good old THC.
Edited by gornyhuy (06/14/16 08:42 AM)
|
gornyhuy
A Myth Intrepidly Met



Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 2,933
Loc: USA
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23338828 - 06/13/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: But its so hard to find! 
Amazon.
|
LSDollar


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2,361
Loc: Up Up and Away
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23338898 - 06/13/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
I never really noticed it..I guess when I did LSA first I don't notice it much. I do feel cold on LSD.
|
Lucis
Nutritional Yeast

Registered: 03/28/15
Posts: 15,622
Last seen: 1 month, 27 days
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hygrocybe] 1
#23339001 - 06/13/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Hygrocybe said: Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).
I believe L-arginine can be found in watermelon too, well the citrulline in it is converted into L-Arginine in your body, but yeah add watermelon to the list above.
You can buy some cubed watermelon, and snack on that throughout your trip. Fruit is good because it's not hard on your stomach when you're dosed.
-------------------- Šī¸
|
LogicaL Chaos
Ascension Energy & Alien UFOs




Registered: 05/12/07
Posts: 69,308
Loc: The Inexpressible...
Last seen: 16 minutes, 30 seconds
|
Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Lucis]
#23339018 - 06/13/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
|
|
Plus watermeklon tastes amazing too 
Horny Goat Weed, i will have to go look into that.
Or I might just make a very embrassing trip to the doctor and say im limp down stairs
|
|