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Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? * 1
    #23328255 - 06/10/16 03:21 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.

This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23328396 - 06/10/16 04:54 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I've had it to the point I've been worried for my safety on various drugs. You're not alone.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Northerner]
    #23328405 - 06/10/16 05:05 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I have had several experiences with HBWR so im quite familiar with vasoconstriction. Ive tried my drugs and methods to counter it and found that the best way is to go far a walk during the comeup. Once you are peaking you should be able to go inside and lay down.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23328509 - 06/10/16 06:25 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I get severe swelling in my hands and feet when dosed 50ug and more. I take antihistamines to be able to trip. Otherwise I would never be able to take 300ug. I believe I am having an allergic reaction and not vasoconstriction I guess.

Maybe you should try taking some aspirin before tripping?


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban] * 1
    #23328549 - 06/10/16 10:38 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I take a half of a viagra before tripping because of the extreme vasoconstriction....otherwise it is extremely painful in my feet. Viagra is a great vasodilator ...it is what it was originally intended for...the hard weiner part was just a side effect....a multi-billion dollar side effect.lol


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23328643 - 06/10/16 11:03 AM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I do with LSD, but not mushrooms. I have arthritis all over my body as well as some muscle aches and the last time I took L about 6 hours in I could hardly move. Everything was so sore, it was as though my joints were all frozen, this in turn caused bad anxiety and rumination on it. I went for a walk and it helped. I think in part it was bc I was being fairly active earlier, which hurt my joints, and then I sat around causing them to stiffen up and the pain to set in, plus I was not as distracted by activity. Mushrooms on the other hand tend to be neutral or even help my arthritis.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23328947 - 06/10/16 12:42 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

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I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.

This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping




For me, i get it pretty bad. And in the worst spot, my junk area. So embarassing :nonono:

Looking for a cure....


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23329037 - 06/10/16 01:11 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

Never really had vasoconstriction, my body always feels in bliss or energy on L, I also don't dose high though, use CBD natural anti anxiety and vaso relaxant


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23329086 - 06/10/16 01:24 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

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I dunno if it's just me or what, but now when I trip I always get pretty annyoing vasocinstriction. For instance I took 2 tabs of some amazing lsd earlier today but my right pinkie feels numb.

This feeling comes and goes to other parts of my body while tripping




For me, i get it pretty bad. And in the worst spot, my junk area. So embarassing :nonono:

Looking for a cure....




Look into:
  • Cayenne Pepper
  • Garlic
  • Ginkgo Biloba
  • aspirin
  • viagra
  • Yohimbine
  • Ginger


These are all vasodilators that can be taken as supplements before you dose up. Many of them are really effective.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
    #23329164 - 06/10/16 01:59 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

I hear Niacin was mentioned by Albert Hoffman to ease LSD constriction and it's apparently a known dilator that can be taken before a trip.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
    #23329166 - 06/10/16 02:00 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

:takingnotes:

Is Viagra over the counter?

And is aspirin better than ibeprophan (sp?)?


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy] * 1
    #23329471 - 06/10/16 03:56 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #23329721 - 06/10/16 05:09 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

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Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).




I was about to mention raw cacao. Raw cacao is so amazing I cannot believe people still drink coffee. Seriously. Everyone start taking raw cacao daily NOW.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #23330316 - 06/10/16 08:34 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

But its so hard to find! :wtfsonic:


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23330360 - 06/10/16 08:47 PM (5 years, 5 days ago)

Depends entirely on the psychedelic involved for me. I get vasoconstriction on phenethylamines like 2CE, 25i/d/c, allylescaline, etc. to varying degrees. However, with 4-aco-dmt and psilocybin, I get the opposite effect vasodilation. With 4-ho-met and 4-ho-mipt, I don't notice any effect either way.

YMMV.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy] * 1
    #23338683 - 06/13/16 10:02 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Thanks for additions.

Updated List (in no particular order):

  • Cayenne Pepper
  • Garlic
  • Ginkgo Biloba
  • Viagra / cialis / horny goat weed
  • L-arginine
  • L-citruline
  • Watermelon
  • Quercetin
  • Raw Cacao
  • Niacin
  • Yohimbine
  • Ginger
  • THC / Weed


No, viagra is not OTC, but you can get a milder form of the same PDE5 inhibition from horny goat weed. 

Niacin has the added benefit of mild anti-anxiety (see also niacinamide or vitamin B3), but it does cause a pretty strong flush in most people which might be uncomfortable while tripping.

I removed aspirin and didn't add ibuprofen because I've read conflicting reports on if they are vasodilators at all. Couldn't hurt, but might not help.

Also, added good old THC. :smile:


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23338828 - 06/13/16 11:19 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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But its so hard to find! :wtfsonic:




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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: gornyhuy]
    #23338898 - 06/13/16 11:41 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

I never really noticed it..I guess when I did LSA first I don't notice it much. I do feel cold on LSD.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Hygrocybe]
    #23339001 - 06/13/16 12:21 PM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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Add to the list L-Arginine and raw cacao (taken in water to maximize absorption).




I believe L-arginine can be found in watermelon too, well the citrulline in it is converted into L-Arginine in your body, but yeah add watermelon to the list above. 

You can buy some cubed watermelon, and snack on that throughout your trip.  Fruit is good because it's not hard on your stomach when you're dosed.


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Re: Anyone else get bad vasoconstriction while tripping? [Re: Lucis]
    #23339018 - 06/13/16 12:29 PM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Plus watermeklon tastes amazing too :yesnod:

Horny Goat Weed, i will have to go look into that.

Or I might just make a very embrassing trip to the doctor and say im limp down stairs :unwanted:


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