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Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights
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this video is disturbing to me.  can anyone tell me what these peaceful demonstrators were doing that was illegal and deserved this treatment? 

also note that this crowd was very different from your typical "anarchistic" protesters shown all over the mainstream media.

btw, the guy with the megaphone was later arrested.



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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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yea i didnt see the police do anything to anybody, it's still funny tho,  I liked the guy with the v for vendetta mask


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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unlawful assembly, must not have gotten their permits or paid the cops to close the roads they were obstructing


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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Dood, I agree it is crazy, but come on, you cannot assemble in the middle of the street!!!!!!!11

Move it to the sidewalks and keep moving if you have a message - do not loiter in the street.

Disturbing, but I am able to comprehend both sides of the argument.

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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
unlawful assembly, must not have gotten their permits or paid the cops to close the roads they were obstructing


we need permits now in order to express our first amendment rights....


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said:
Prisoner#1 said:
unlawful assembly, must not have gotten their permits or paid the cops to close the roads they were obstructing


we need permits now in order to express our first amendment rights....



where have you been?


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said:
Prisoner#1 said:
unlawful assembly, must not have gotten their permits or paid the cops to close the roads they were obstructing


we need permits now in order to express our first amendment rights....


it's been that way for decades, in this instance, Pittsburgh is being sued because of the permits

is it peaceable assembly if you prevent me from using the roads with an illegal protest?


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said:
Prisoner#1 said:
unlawful assembly, must not have gotten their permits or paid the cops to close the roads they were obstructing


we need permits now in order to express our first amendment rights....


You need a permit to interfere with my rights to walk, ride or drive down the street.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: zappaisgod]
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i didn't see any blocked traffic in the video, nor was anyone blocked from walking down the street, except of course the citizens blocked by the storm troopers


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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I don't know about the specific incident, nor do I care.  At all.  But there is most definitely a valid reason to require permits for mass protests.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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These people could learn a thing or two from the teabaggers. If you really want to fuck with bureaucracy, do the damn paperwork. In fact, you should create as much paperwork as possible.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Those people are too stupid to do anything, which is why they endlessly whinge about those who aren't.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Yrat]
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Yrat said:
i didn't see any blocked traffic in the video, nor was anyone blocked from walking down the street, except of course the citizens blocked by the storm troopers



you didnt see a bunch of permitless dumb asses in the road, I sure did and
just as sure as there's a bunch of assholes in the road filming the cops
it's also a guarantee they arent going to film the problems they cause


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You guys are fucking retarded if you think that the people in this video were wrong. The guy with the blow horn has it RIGHT ON. This whole mess happens because people think that the government has the right to nullify american rights because they want to.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
You guys are fucking retarded if you think that the people in this video were wrong. The guy with the blow horn has it RIGHT ON. This whole mess happens because people think that the government has the right to nullify american rights because they want to.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Kada]
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Kada said:
You guys are fucking retarded if you think that the people in this video were wrong. The guy with the blow horn has it RIGHT ON. This whole mess happens because people think that the government has the right to nullify american rights because they want to.

:thumbup:


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
you didnt see a bunch of permitless dumb asses in the road, I sure did and
just as sure as there's a bunch of assholes in the road filming the cops
it's also a guarantee they arent going to film the problems they cause


I was watching fox news, yes Fox and as their reporters were peppered sprayed they also showed a group off people pushing those large trash bins down the road. I don't understand what the point was of moving those big ass trash cans but they did film that problem.

On the other hand some guy sitting on his porch watching this happen in front of his house was also gassed. I can understand why, he wants to protect his assets.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: zappaisgod]
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Just watched the vid the OP posted. Now if I was a cop I would beat down that guy with the boom mic he is annoying.
I am tempted to go to one of these gatherings in my Charlies and see how i'm treated. I would also like it to be filmed.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: djmako7]
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To be fair, megaphones are notoriously as dangerous as stealth bombers and protest signs that have anything left-wing of neoconservative are as dangerous as artillery. I mean it's not as if these protesters of the G20 only brought the odd gun or something civil like that they were a clear threat to the public that needed to be neutralized.

To call the first amendments use of the phrase
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Congress shall make no law... or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

protects people's right to assemble outside of barricades and not impede traffic is terrorism. Look it up.


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Re: Peaceful G20 Protesters Have No First Amendment Rights [Re: ScavengerType]
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It's like screaming fire in a movie theatre, yea you should have the freedom of speech to say it, but look at all the people you negatively effect when you do it. 

The law is put in place so that people can express themselves, but also not interfere with others, so it's really a law designed to try to protect both parties interests as best as possible.  The constitution didn't predict such situations, but we cannot ignore that something needs to be done about them.

Hears the best I can explain it.  We have the right to protest, but we do not have the right to stand in the middle of public streets and block traffic (jaywalking maybe, idk).  Therefore if you want to protest, make sure you aren't breaking other laws, and if you will be breaking other laws, the government allows you to get a permit, which is symbolic that our freedom of speech can come before these other laws.


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