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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1249594 - 01/26/03 08:16 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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If you oppose the Patriot Act (or some other unconstitutional act),



I do oppose the Patriot Act (despite it's catchy name) and I have believe most if not all of it will be deemed unconstitutional.

The time is not upon us for the need to storm Washington. I suspect it never will be. The option remains open though as long as we have the 2nd ammendment. I think throwing bullets MUST remain an option as throwing newspapers seems to be highly ineffective.

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PS - I'm NOT against the 2nd amendment



I don't recall saying you are.



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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1249595 - 01/26/03 08:17 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

We're not talking about an act of questionable constitutionality. We're talking about the entire Bill of Rights being squashed.

That being said, imagine what would have to happen, the tyranny of a scale unimaginable to Americans, that would have to be present for the entire Bill of Rights to be made void. Once we got that far, brute force would be the ONLY thing that would bring it back.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1249755 - 01/26/03 09:32 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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So bring a pen to a sword fight.

Let us know how that works out for you. 




I mean no disrespect to GoBlue! but I found that to be extremely witty and funny.

The next time one of my anti-gun friends drags that one out I intend to use it.

No credit will be given to the author though, natch. :wink:


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1249786 - 01/26/03 09:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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So bring a pen to a sword fight.

Let us know how that works out for you.




What if he used the pen to write letters to 100 of his friends, telling them to bring their swords? Then who would win?


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Andytweed]
    #1249931 - 01/26/03 11:17 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

But in this case, the friends wouldn't be allowed to have swords. You have an army of unarmed writers.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: ]
    #1250142 - 01/26/03 01:09 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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  but I found that to be extremely witty and funny.





I was tired and off my game when I wrote that. I should have said.....
Write us a letter and let us know how that works out for you.

And either way.. it's not copyrighted, so feel free to use it at will.  :laugh:


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1250411 - 01/26/03 02:57 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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but through the discusion and debate aforded by the first you could still win back the others.



Sure. Just like discussion and debate would have won America's freedom.



If India didn't need to resort to violence to achieve independence, then neither did America.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1250588 - 01/26/03 04:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Comparing India's independence with our own is like comparing apples and oranges. We were up against a tyrannical monarchy, at a time when democracy was almost unheard of and England by no means would simply free the American colonies. India protested a democracy's intervention, at a time when the world was concerned about a nuclear war. In fact, India probably would still be ruled by a monarchial Great Britain if we had refused to fight for independence.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1250598 - 01/26/03 04:30 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

At the time of America's war for independence, it was not the dictatorship that you and many others seem to think it was. True, the monarchy was stronger then than it is now, but Parliament had most of the power. Also, the Constitution was based largely on England's model for government, with a few changes of course.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1250613 - 01/26/03 04:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

England's Parliament was a gathering of nobles and other such tyrants, obsessed with power.

Here's an example:
We complained about the English taxing us without proper representation in Parliament. So the English, rather than let the colonies send over representatives, passed legislation so that we could be taxed without representation.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1254227 - 01/27/03 06:51 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

4th


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1259737 - 01/29/03 06:38 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Keep your pen then. While that's important, I'll keep my guns.

There comes a time in most, if not all, struggles for freedom against government, that the threat of force becomes necessary.




Oh, I'll keep my guns too. I always figured though that there will always be guns available on the blackmarked. Hell, If it ever came to that point I bet there would be a few contries that would give us guns. Not to mention that (IMHO) most millitary would side with the people. It would end up being the US millitary/citizens vs The US "government"/ United Nations forces.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1259757 - 01/29/03 06:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"It would end up being the US millitary/citizens vs The US "government"/ United Nations forces."

That's a fact, dude.  I know a bunch of people in the military, and I think they're all "one of us".  :smirk: 


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Cornholio]
    #1259896 - 01/29/03 07:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah and that means we still win.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1261827 - 01/30/03 12:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly


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