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Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite?
    #1247286 - 01/25/03 06:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Mine is definately ONE.

Let's say that George bush said he was going to throw away the bill of rights but he was willing to let us keep one amendment.

Which one would you keep?


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247287 - 01/25/03 06:56 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

assuming also that he said that the right would be taken literally and always guarenteed.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247307 - 01/25/03 07:09 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be
construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
-- US 9th Amendment

Unfortunately, the Constitution is a dead letter and is void where prohibited by law. History has shown that constitutions are at best only a means of slowing the growth of government, but are no safeguard against the designs for power of some men over others.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Evolving]
    #1247319 - 01/25/03 07:18 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

If the first nine were removed hopefully each and every state would have the intelligence to implement the ones removed into the state constitution and therefore most of our rights would be maintained (only at the state and local level, though)


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247342 - 01/25/03 07:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

II What a shock. Without it the others are worthless.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247354 - 01/25/03 07:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The Federal Government is an illegal entity.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247454 - 01/25/03 08:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

2nd. Without it, the rest aren't worth squat.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247548 - 01/25/03 09:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Keep the second, take the rest back by force.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1247706 - 01/25/03 10:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The consensus keeps building. :smile: :wink:


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1247760 - 01/25/03 11:40 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

2nd amendment is my favorite and is the most important. Without this amendment others can not be defended.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1248412 - 01/25/03 04:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The first, but I'm also a big fan of the fourth.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: ]
    #1248527 - 01/25/03 05:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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II What a shock. Without it the others are worthless.




I think I have to disagree with you here. While I might also choose the 2nd, the 1st might be the must important. The others might take time to win back but through the discusion and debate aforded by the first you could still win back the others. I think that the builders also felt that freedom of speach was the most important, and I think they felt that 2 was 2nd most. Change is always possible if free speach is afforded.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1248643 - 01/25/03 06:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Without the rest of them, the 2nd is useless.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #1249071 - 01/25/03 10:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think the 1st is most important.  I believe "the pen is mightier than the sword", and with the 1st, you can win the others back.  :smile: 


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1249255 - 01/26/03 02:21 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

So bring a pen to a sword fight.

Let us know how that works out for you.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1249257 - 01/26/03 02:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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but through the discusion and debate aforded by the first you could still win back the others.



Sure. Just like discussion and debate would have won America's freedom.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1249300 - 01/26/03 03:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well for one the patriot act is pretty good proof that the pen can be mightier, and that can work both ways.
two, in a democracy you could win them back, but right you are that in a monarchy it probably would get your head removed.


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1249305 - 01/26/03 03:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Keep your pen then. While that's important, I'll keep my guns.

There comes a time in most, if not all, struggles for freedom against government, that the threat of force becomes necessary.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1249340 - 01/26/03 04:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think Ghandi said that...


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Re: Which amendment to the bill of rights is your favorite? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1249422 - 01/26/03 06:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

So bring a pen to a sword fight.



Serious question here:

If you oppose the Patriot Act (or some other unconstitutional act), do you think you would be more effective by rallying people together in support of your cause with free speech, or do you think you'd be better off storming into Washington with a few guns blasting? Personally, I think the swordfight can be avoided altogether in this situation.

If you're talking defense from other countries, we have a military that is more than adequate for that job.

PS - I'm NOT against the 2nd amendment, I simply gave my opinion that it wasn't the MOST important amendment.


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