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DMT woes
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So SWIM finally crystallized some DMT which looks relatively pure to the eye, and tried to vaporize the substance in a converted light bulb vapo. To which I'll try and describe the experience.

SWIM inhaled the first hit which seemed quite harsh, but remembered hearing that it was like that and to just go deep and slow. Halfway through the hit SWIM noticed his tongue go concernedly numb along with an intense burning all down his throat and in his lungs. SWIM immediatly stopped the dose there due to thought of possibly extracting some of the lye mixture or possibly using the wrong kind of lye that had another additive.

Whats left in the pipe is a oily residue to which SWIM believes could be melted DMT. Is there any chance to save whats extracted with possible recrystallization? Also any thoughts on the adverse reaction? This is SWIM's first time and generally upset with how it went, and sore.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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it felt like it burned the shit out of my tongue and lips when i smoked it the first couple of times. it actually stopped me from breaking through because i kept thinking about the burning feeling.


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Re: DMT woes [Re: Artnotwar]
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So its normal? Like seriously it did a number on SWIM's throat and lungs, not quite what he hoped... and scared him.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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Thats what wrong with vaping in a oiler... get a steel bowl with water bong....layer bottom with ashes put dmt in...put ashes on top.....heat outside of bowl for 15 sec then light the bowl like normal...when you run it through the water the harshness falls out...:rockon: cheap water bong works

these are perfect...about 5- 10 bucks
preschooler said:
http://www.smokingpipeshop.com/images/100_0989.jpg <<<< cheap and the water doesn't spill if you get too high.

A butane torch lighter works well for heating the outside of the bowl also. Makes you feel like your blasting off when lighting.

Fact: I know something drops out when runnig the vapor through water....win.:winner: win situation because without the smoke being harsh the user can take an extremely large hit.


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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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did it actually burn you, or did it give you a burning sensation during and after you smoked it?
if it actually burnt you, then yeah, clean that shit up.


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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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smurfyshmu said:
So its normal? Like seriously it did a number on SWIM's throat and lungs, not quite what he hoped... and scared him.



try this^^^^^ if it works leave me a rating good or bad ok

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Re: DMT woes [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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SWIM believes it was just a sensation due to it subsiding. SWIM will scrape up the resin with a razor and spread inbetween some mj and load into a glass bong filled with ice and water. He'll report back. Can he just hit like normally hitting marijuana or is a technique involved with holding the flame away from the bowl? Plus he only has glass bowls for it.

He would've thought the glass bulb would be more efficient at spreading heat and making it less harsh and better consistent vaporization.

Edited by smurfyshmu (08/11/09 06:34 AM)

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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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u could have inhaled some of the material.....i did that once with the bulb and had to think i would never swallow again during the trip


i said it once and say it again....the 'machine' has been given great reviews for a reason.....make one!


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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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so your finished product is a resin, not crystal? what did you extract from?


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Re: DMT woes [Re: Artnotwar]
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No, actually he extracted white crystals, when scraped they were white, maybe a hint of green but not much. When attempting first vapor you may be onto something about inhaling the material. After all the DMT melted down it just looks kind of like an oily residue, but surely its just from melting into a puddle.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: Billy1111]
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no the shit is just extremely harsh... just use ashes from ur weed or cigs...helps it burn better... make sure you have a fresh screen on ur pipe....glass should work....the one great thing about the steel is you can heat the outside of the bowl...until you get the dmt almost smokin and then blast off...
Billy1111 said:
u could have inhaled some of the material.....i did that once with the bulb and had to think i would never swallow again during the trip


i said it once and say it again....the 'machine' has been given great reviews for a reason.....make one!


i made two attempts to make one of those and i failed...broke the hennessey bottle:sad:

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Re: DMT woes [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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i did an extraction at a friends house once. the spice was perfect. but after making the ride home the spice had oxidized from getting too hot (90degrees). this made the spice unbearable to hit. it felt like swallowing razorblades to anyone who hit it.

this may not be your problem, just thought i'd throw it out there.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: moe.phan]
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The numb feeling is normal I think. At least thats what I always experience.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: alphasnail]
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it might be that you over heated your dmt. i've actually burned the roof of my mouth with this shit pretty bad. my friends were smoking the same light bulb with me and they were fine.


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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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Hint #1:  When using any device where inhalation of powder may occur, PRE_MELT (with very brief, light heat) the powder into a viscous oil.  Then hit that instead.  No chance of inhaling powder.  :thumbup:

Hint #2:  If you did a careful extraction (and I'm assuming you did) there is virtually no chance of lye in the final product.  Even if there was tiny amount, taking hint # 1 will eliminate the problem entirely.  Spice vaporizes at a very low temperature.  Lye does not vaporize with that mild a heat and will be absent from any smoke.

If there is any concern whatsoever, do a carbonate wash.  Its $1.69 for 2 ounces of calcium carbonate, and you need only a microscopic amount to do the wash.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: Nature Boy]
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where would someone buy carbonate?

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Re: DMT woes [Re: smurfyshmu]
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the grocery store

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Re: DMT woes [Re: FryinHard]
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calcium carbonate(soda ash). not bi-carbonate(baking soda).

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Re: DMT woes [Re: moe.phan]
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yea, they have it (not baking soda) at the grocery store i shop at.

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Re: DMT woes [Re: moe.phan]
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moe.phan said:
calcium carbonate(soda ash). not bi-carbonate(baking soda).


Actually, what you want is sodium carbonate, not calcium carbonate, although the latter will work, the sodium carbonate is preferable.  I mis-spoke when I wrote calcium carbonate.

Sorry for any confusion.  Sodium carbonate is also ultra-cheap.  Here is what I learned from a PM from a highly respected source.

"Calcium carbonate isn't very water-soluble, so your carbonate water will be cloudy with undissolved calcium carbonate, but it will raise the pH just fine.  It's entirely possible that some of the particulate calcium carbonate will end up in the naphtha phase, but that's really not cause for concern.  Calcium carbonate is quite stable to heat, so the product is quite safe to smoke even if it has some calcium carbonate in it (I've seen it recommended that bufotenine be dissolved onto calcium carbonate to make dosing easier (considering the tiny doses at which vaporized bufotenine is active).

So basically the product may not be quite as pure, but it will still be clean and safe to vaporize."

I hope this clarifies things!

N.B.

Edited by Nature Boy (08/11/09 04:45 PM)

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