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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: 4 Way Street]
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i dont even know what he's talking about.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
End of story.


You keep saying this but ifit was really 'end of story', even if just for you, then why would you keep coming & posting in a spiritual forum!? :lol:

:peace:


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Chronic7]
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Chronic777 said:
OrgoneConclusion said:
End of story.


You keep saying this but ifit was really 'end of story', even if just for you, then why would you keep coming & posting in a spiritual forum!? :lol:

:peace:


Until we become Christians, they will never stop trying to convert us.

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Jack Albertson]
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I will respond to myself so as to not commit a misdemeanor.

What I don't get is why some folks here are so damned proud of their inability to examine things logically and rationally and with minimal bias.

:spock:


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (04/18/09 12:21 PM)

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Try Google and do your own research. Acupuncture has failed every controlled double-blind test. How do I know? Because if it passed, it would be all over every acupuncture promoting website. However, it does not appear that you are sincerely interested in discovering the truth about the efficacy of this practice.


Do my own research? You cant just go around saying that ALL tests ever done have debunked it without some evidence. I want to see exactly what you said. ALL TESTS EVER DONE HAVE DEBUNKED IT. You said it, and i assume like everything else youve said in this thread, it's true. So show me.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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The World Health Organization(a whacky New Age group, I'm sure :smirk:) has listed the following as "Diseases, symptoms or conditions for which acupuncture has been proved - through controlled trials - to be an effective treatment."

    * Adverse reactions to radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy
    * Allergic rhinitis (including hay fever)
    * Biliary colic
    * Depression (including depressive neurosis and depression following stroke)
    * Dysentery, acute bacillary
    * Dysmenorrhoea, primary
    * Epigastralgia, acute (in peptic ulcer, acute and chronic gastritis, and gastrospasm)
    * Facial pain (including craniomandibular disorders)
    * Headache
    * Hypertension, essential
    * Hypotension, primary
    * Induction of labour
    * Knee pain
    * Leukopenia
    * Low back pain
    * Malposition of fetus, correction of
    * Morning sickness
    * Nausea and vomiting
    * Neck pain
    * Pain in dentistry (including dental pain and temporomandibular dysfunction)
    * Periarthritis of shoulder
    * Postoperative pain
    * Renal colic
    * Rheumatoid arthritis
    * Sciatica
    * Sprain
    * Stroke
    * Tennis elbow

Source


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10189012 -

and what about fruit not rotting inside a pyramid? new age beliefs imo were made when the hippie age was in full bloom and they melded their wild fantasies with just a tad of science to back up claims that were improbable and impossible to prove. like crystals work just like microchips etc.


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Try Google and do your own research. Acupuncture has failed every controlled double-blind test. How do I know? Because if it passed, it would be all over every acupuncture promoting website.


How can you argue with logic like that? :rofl2:

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Bridgeburner]
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Actually crystals work more like CD-ROMs.

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #10189028 -

silicon


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #10189032 -

What about telepathy? Trans-dimensional transportation. Multiple universes...


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Last night I was honored with the Nobel Prize in theoretical physics. This worldwide recognition has given me the opportunity to bring hope to a war-ravaged world. I vowed to myself I would work like a dog at this. But now, it's 10:30 in the morning and I'm just getting out of bed. I did get up earlier around 8:00am, but I just lied in bed for a while, and then...jerked off. I've got to stop masturbating, it makes me too lazy. Stop it Albert...stop it.

  ~Albert Einstein.

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
The World Health Organization(a whacky New Age group, I'm sure :smirk:) has listed the following as "Diseases, symptoms or conditions for which acupuncture has been proved - through controlled trials - to be an effective treatment."

    * Adverse reactions to radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy
    * Allergic rhinitis (including hay fever)
    * Biliary colic
    * Depression (including depressive neurosis and depression following stroke)
    * Dysentery, acute bacillary
    * Dysmenorrhoea, primary
    * Epigastralgia, acute (in peptic ulcer, acute and chronic gastritis, and gastrospasm)
    * Facial pain (including craniomandibular disorders)
    * Headache
    * Hypertension, essential
    * Hypotension, primary
    * Induction of labour
    * Knee pain
    * Leukopenia
    * Low back pain
    * Malposition of fetus, correction of
    * Morning sickness
    * Nausea and vomiting
    * Neck pain
    * Pain in dentistry (including dental pain and temporomandibular dysfunction)
    * Periarthritis of shoulder
    * Postoperative pain
    * Renal colic
    * Rheumatoid arthritis
    * Sciatica
    * Sprain
    * Stroke
    * Tennis elbow

Source


You believe this quackery over orgoneconclusions assertions? :rofl2:

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: 4 Way Street]
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Nice to see you guys giving OC a fair fight. :brucelee:

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I will respond to myself so as to not commit a misdemeanor.

What I don't get is why some folks here are so damned proud of their inability to examine things logically and rationally and with minimal bias.

:spock:


I also wonder about you.

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #10189061 -

Fruit rots perfectly well inside a home constructed pyramid.


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #10189068 -

i like how you pick and chose what you want to respond to


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
TRANSCEND


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #10189083 -

Ok please try to refrain from Ad hominems unless they are especially funny.

Materialists are selective though, I bet they don't even watch the evidence I posted.

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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Middleman]
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but he's not playing fair  :hissyfit:


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
TRANSCEND


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: Silversoul]
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Sticking needles in people does seem to have some effect, but has nothing to do with meridians and more like endorphin release.

Here is the important part: tests done using 'Certified Practioners' and doctors who did not have a clue and randomly inserted needles showed the exact same effect.

This is the same with Reiki practioners and ordinary touch/massage.

Personal attention plus concern plus random modality = minor healing effect.


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Re: New Age/Spiritual Terminology [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Tests have also been done that show the contrary.

Show me your source and I'll show you mine.

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