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Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change?
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/obamas-interactive-town-hall-meeting/

I fucking hate this man. Clearly state things one way then flip-flop when you're voted in. What an ass.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the DEA is continuing their raids, one week after they were 'stopped'.

http://www.mikecann.net/2009/03/dea-continues-medical-marijuana-raids.html


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Wapakz]
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Quote:
President Obama: What Is So Funny About Taxing And Regulating Marijuana?
Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:34:32  By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director
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Speaking live moments ago President Barack Obama pledged “to open up the White House to the American people.”

Well, to some of the American people that is.

As for those tens of millions of you who believe that cannabis should be legally regulated like alcohol — and the tens of thousands of you who voted to make this subject the most popular question in today’s online Presidential Town Hall — well, your voice doesn’t really matter.

Asked this morning whether he “would … support the bill currently going through the California legislation to legalize and tax marijuana, boosting the economy and reducing drug cartel related violence,” the President responded with derision.

“There was one question that was voted on that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation, and I don’t know what this says about the online audience,” he laughed.

“The answer is no, I don’t think that [is] a good strategy.”

Obama’s cynical rebuff was short-sighted and disrespectful to a large percentage of his supporters. After all, was it not this very same “online audience” that donated heavily to Obama’s Presidential campaign and ultimately carried him to the White House?

Second, as I’ve written previously in The Hill and elsewhere, the overwhelming popularity of the marijuana law reform issue — as manifested in this and in similar forums — illustrates that there is a significant, vocal, and identifiable segment of our society that wants to see an end to America’s archaic and overly punitive marijuana laws.

The Obama administration should be embracing this constituency, not mocking it.

Third, will somebody please ask the President: “What is it that you think is so funny about the subject of marijuana law reform?”

Since 1965, police have arrested over 20 million Americans for violating marijuana laws, yet nearly 90 percent of teenagers say that pot is “very easy” or “fairly easy” to obtain. That’s funny?

According to this very administration, there is an unprecedented level of violence occurring at the Mexico/US border — much of which is allegedly caused by the trafficking of marijuana to the United States by drug cartels. America’s stringent enforcement of pot prohibition, which artificially inflates black market pot prices and ensures that only criminal enterprises will be involved in the production and sale of this commodity, is helping to fuel this violence. Wow, funny stuff!

Finally, two recent polls indicate that a strong majority of regional voters support ending marijuana prohibition and treating the drug’s sale, use, and distribution like alcohol. A February 2009 Zogby telephone poll reported that nearly six out of ten of voters on the west coast think that cannabis should be “taxed and legally regulated like alcohol and cigarettes.” A just-released California Field Poll reports similar results, finding that 58 percent of statewide votes believe that regulations for cannabis should be the same or less strict than those for alcohol.

Does the President really think that all of these voters are worthy of his ridicule?

Let the White House laugh for now, but the public knows that this issue is no laughing matter. This week alone, legislators in Illinois, Minnesota, and New Hampshire voted to legalize the use of marijuana for authorized individuals. Politicians in three additional states heard testimony this week in favor of eliminating criminal penalties for all adults who possess and use cannabis. And lawmakers in Massachusetts and California are now debating legally regulating marijuana outright.

The American public is ready and willing to engage in a serious and objective political debate regarding the merits of legalizing the use of cannabis by adults. And all over this nation, whether Capitol Hill wants to acknowledge it or not, they are engaging in this debate as we speak.

Sorry Obama, this time the joke’s on you.



from NORML


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Wapakz]
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hey, dont knock President Obama for this, clearly at the end of the article it mentions "listen to obama"

if the DEA decides to go AGAINST the president, he is not necessarily powerless to stop it, but he isnt a czar either.

I do hope he speaks out on this, so that the mentality WONT be that he is a flip flopper.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
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The DEA takes orders from Obama. The head of the DEA stated that they would follow Obama's call for state jurisdiction in medical marijuana cases. What does this mean? Obama reneged on his promise to stop the DEA raids on medical marijuana facilities.

Because as the DEA stated, they get their messages straight from the top: the president.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
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Cannabischarlie said:
hey, dont knock President Obama for this, clearly at the end of the article it mentions "listen to obama"

if the DEA decides to go AGAINST the president, he is not necessarily powerless to stop it, but he isnt a czar either.

I do hope he speaks out on this, so that the mentality WONT be that he is a flip flopper.



Wow, you don't get that he can fire the head of the DEA easilly, because the president is the head of the executive branch. They-are-not allowed to go against him. All of the Czars are heads of the cabinet, not like in Russia.

Why are people ignorant enough to think the DEA is some sort of rogue faction of the government?

Obama made a fucked up move, I hope Cali and Mass pass the laws.


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: doom876]
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There is news saying the dispensary was not following state law, and thus raided.

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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: suburbanned]
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DEA is federal, they are separate from state law. Thus state law enforcement would have taken care of the dispensary. The DEA is federal, not state. So this raid was from Obama's appointee.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Wapakz]
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i think i remember reading that the DEA would only raid those shops that are not operating under both state and federal law (seemingly simultaneously) so that if one dispensary is running by the CA state regs, that's cool and dandy, but then another one is not running by the CA state regs, that's when the DEA gets their righteousness on.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Wapakz]
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/26/obama-marijuana-is-not-a-good-strategy-to-spur-economy/#more-45366

In terms of thinking politically; I agree with Obama's decision. 40% of the country(right wing nuts) already hate his guts and want the president to fail. Legalizing cannabis would kill the support of a lot of those traditional folks. And I think it would kill Obama's chances of getting re-elected in 2012. What's more important, legalizing cannabis or having Obama for 8 years?

However, although there are less controversial ways to generate revenue. It seems completely moronic not to legalize cannabis. However; cops need to make their quotas and continue to instill the fear of drugs upon the impressionable young minds of our society.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Neuron]
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I also forgot to congratulate the thousands of people on the shroomery who voted for that topic. I clearly remember reading the thread about this on these boards with the same  question, verbatim.

Congratulations on making it to #1 and getting the attention of the media.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Neuron]
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there is like 10 threads on this same topic

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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Neuron]
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Neuron said:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/26/obama-marijuana-is-not-a-good-strategy-to-spur-economy/#more-45366

In terms of thinking politically; I agree with Obama's decision. 40% of the country(right wing nuts) already hate his guts and want the president to fail. Legalizing cannabis would kill the support of a lot of those traditional folks. And I think it would kill Obama's chances of getting re-elected in 2012. What's more important, legalizing cannabis or having Obama for 8 years?


However, although there are less controversial ways to generate revenue. It seems completely moronic not to legalize cannabis. However; cops need to make their quotas and continue to instill the fear of drugs upon the impressionable young minds of our society.



hit the nail on head. Let Obama play the stupid political game. He may turn around next term if  more states decriminalize

Right now, we need to be looking to Cali and Mass. Not Obama.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
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Cannabischarlie said:
I do hope he speaks out on this, so that the mentality WONT be that he is a flip flopper.



he's been a flip-flopper since 2 weeks into his campain. since he was elected, its only gotten worse.

people are/were so ready to believe everything that he said, even though he's contradicted himself soooo many times, they tend to forget he's no different than any other politician. politicians tell you anything you want to here to get your vote. then its business as usual.

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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: moe.phan]
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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: citricacidx]
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Obama is a joke.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: citricacidx]
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It`s sad that anyone takes this political stuff serious anymore.....if you have not guessed ,it`s all been a lie.

Your vote does not count,your opinion as a citizen does not matter anymore.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: Rocker232]
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Rocker232 said:
Obama is a joke.



The entire thing is a joke.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: citricacidx]
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citricacidx said:




so true, i voted for this puppet.

BUT..

I still want to see "change"

I will see "change"


Marijuana will be legalized. and this is no laughing matter.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: citricacidx]
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People are also pretty quick to size up politicians and think  "If you've seen one, you've seen them all". I will let Obama play the game of politics, because he's out best shot at reclaiming our country.

A good politician is a strategic one. Okay, so if he did legalize cannabis then cannabis would be legal for 4 years. Then comes 2012; he obviously won't be re-elected by the majority; and we'll have some moronic republican like Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, or Jindal running for president.

Haven't you had enough bullshit from Bush? In my honest opinion, we need a smart president for as long as possible to rebuild America. We're hanging my a thin hair people, let's cut the guy some slack.


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Re: Obama against Weed to Save Economy. Change? [Re: I AM SWIM]
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It amazes me how a man who won on "change" hasn't the slightest pair of balls. The nation is in a shit hole right, you have to make some choices that are going to be controversial. FDR walked all over the constitution in order to save the economy, why is Obama so afraid? He needs to stop worrying about his second term and worry about the present.


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