psilyguy said:

DragonChaser said:

doom876 said:

Well, they do conflict unless you cherry-pick what you believe in the bible, which in that case you are probably dumber then the hard core christian. (you're even dumber for not being able to see that certain things, like the coexistence of religion and science might be out of your limited mind's grasp) It's all or nothing (once again, a stupid belief, as very little about life is all or nothing), and I choose to believe the bible is BS.

Religion and science cannot co-exist in one mind (maybe your mind is just too small for both to fit inside it) because one is all knowing dogma and one is based on the knowledge that people gather through study!

You know what is more annoying then creationists, people who think that god created the big bang so they don't have to compromise! (wouldn't that be the simplest and most beautiful way he could create the universe?  with an explosion of matter directly from him, and letting the universe and life evolve on its own?  do you really expect everyone who believes in God to believe that he sat down like a potter with a wheel and formed every living creature, every planet, every single thing by hand?)

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I question your knowledge of religion.
Religion isn't about following a book, word for word.  Its about having a personal relationship with your God.  The book serves a purpose if you feel lost, or need guidance.

The Bible was written by ancient man.  Lets say that they were revealed the creation of the universe in visions from God.  How would they describe it?  They lacked knowledge of physics, chemistry, etc, so they would describe it in things they were familiar with.  They may describe the stages of the universes formation as "days", and seeing stars coalesce from gaseous matter would appear to them as God separating darkness from light.  Seeing the earth form would be the separation of the heavens and the earth.
The bible never says that God made man in his physical image, just "in our image", as in the image of he and the host of angels, and other creatures of spirit.  I've wondered if it just meant that man was the only creature bestowed a soul component, and thats what finally separated us from other primates.

There is a lot of room for interpretation in the bible than you might think.  You have to realize that it was written from ancient man's perspective, and try to look at it appropriately.


People have it in their heads that the idea behind creationism is that God created the universe and every living thing exactly the way it is, never changing.  How boring is that?  Would an all powerful being really do something so... simple, and boring?

Or would it all start with an unimaginable bang, followed by countless of unbelievably complex and beautiful processes over billions of years, matter coalescing into planets and stars, and in some areas, lifeless matter somehow becoming amino acids, and then simple life, finally culminating (in one small part of our galaxy) in a small green and blue planet with an amazingly complex system of life living on it.

Which one is more worthy of a God?

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very well stated. not only was the bible written from the perspective of ancient man, but also modern man has taken the bible and taken things out, put things in, and change things in it already. anyone who thinks its all or nothing just makes me

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doom876 said:

psilyguy said:

DragonChaser said:

doom876 said:

Well, they do conflict unless you cherry-pick what you believe in the bible, which in that case you are probably dumber then the hard core christian. (you're even dumber for not being able to see that certain things, like the coexistence of religion and science might be out of your limited mind's grasp) It's all or nothing (once again, a stupid belief, as very little about life is all or nothing), and I choose to believe the bible is BS.

Religion and science cannot co-exist in one mind (maybe your mind is just too small for both to fit inside it) because one is all knowing dogma and one is based on the knowledge that people gather through study!

You know what is more annoying then creationists, people who think that god created the big bang so they don't have to compromise! (wouldn't that be the simplest and most beautiful way he could create the universe?  with an explosion of matter directly from him, and letting the universe and life evolve on its own?  do you really expect everyone who believes in God to believe that he sat down like a potter with a wheel and formed every living creature, every planet, every single thing by hand?)

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I question your knowledge of religion.
Religion isn't about following a book, word for word.  Its about having a personal relationship with your God.  The book serves a purpose if you feel lost, or need guidance.

The Bible was written by ancient man.  Lets say that they were revealed the creation of the universe in visions from God.  How would they describe it?  They lacked knowledge of physics, chemistry, etc, so they would describe it in things they were familiar with.  They may describe the stages of the universes formation as "days", and seeing stars coalesce from gaseous matter would appear to them as God separating darkness from light.  Seeing the earth form would be the separation of the heavens and the earth.
The bible never says that God made man in his physical image, just "in our image", as in the image of he and the host of angels, and other creatures of spirit.  I've wondered if it just meant that man was the only creature bestowed a soul component, and thats what finally separated us from other primates.

There is a lot of room for interpretation in the bible than you might think.  You have to realize that it was written from ancient man's perspective, and try to look at it appropriately.


People have it in their heads that the idea behind creationism is that God created the universe and every living thing exactly the way it is, never changing.  How boring is that?  Would an all powerful being really do something so... simple, and boring?

Or would it all start with an unimaginable bang, followed by countless of unbelievably complex and beautiful processes over billions of years, matter coalescing into planets and stars, and in some areas, lifeless matter somehow becoming amino acids, and then simple life, finally culminating (in one small part of our galaxy) in a small green and blue planet with an amazingly complex system of life living on it.

Which one is more worthy of a God?

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very well stated. not only was the bible written from the perspective of ancient man, but also modern man has taken the bible and taken things out, put things in, and change things in it already. anyone who thinks its all or nothing just makes me

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You didn't read my other posts, and as a "prophetic" work, you can't cherry pick it without tossing it like you could dissect something based off reason without saying "well, these ancient people had it all wrong, might as well toss this shit and start over".

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IrSotallyTober said:

rizingfire said:

yet non of you have seen evolution proved and yet you still make the same lame ass remarks, why? Because if there is any part of creationism that is true then you would have to believe in God? You guys are just silly if you think evolution is a fact...Its like a fairy tale for adults and like they said there are too many gaps and genetic testing has proven we could not have evolved from chimps so that is definitely BS...with so many parts of it unexplained but using natural selection as the method by which evolution takes place, what we evolved from would have to be extinct since evolution is kind of a forced, survival of the fitest, well if we are the fittest and the end result there would be no more monkeys because they would have had to evolve or else die...there are way too many cases against darwinism and since darwin himself later said he was wrong why would people still believe it? Only because it gives you an excuse to pretend there is no God and removed the accountability to Him, sounds like you are all pretty pathetic to just criticize people for their beliefs...I just figured I would throw that back and see how you like it...You have to be an ignorant fuck to believe you have all the answers when clearly not a single one of you has witnessed any of the experimentation to prove even a small part of evolution so ultimately you are talking out your ass.

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dude, go fuck a bible! what a fucking tard!

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doom876 said:

Nope, the bible is worse then worthless, just like the Koran, and the Torah. If a war is faught over your religious book, then it has a few too many kinks to deserve acknowledgment as being worthful. If I may take a page from William Buckley Jr.

If I could push a button and make all religion disappear, I would.


Not saying learning about these books because of their cultural significance is bad, but they have grown to ungodly and terrible proportions...just look at the hell in the holy land

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King Koopa said:

IrSotallyTober said:

rizingfire said:

yet non of you have seen evolution proved and yet you still make the same lame ass remarks, why? Because if there is any part of creationism that is true then you would have to believe in God? You guys are just silly if you think evolution is a fact...Its like a fairy tale for adults and like they said there are too many gaps and genetic testing has proven we could not have evolved from chimps so that is definitely BS...with so many parts of it unexplained but using natural selection as the method by which evolution takes place, what we evolved from would have to be extinct since evolution is kind of a forced, survival of the fitest, well if we are the fittest and the end result there would be no more monkeys because they would have had to evolve or else die...there are way too many cases against darwinism and since darwin himself later said he was wrong why would people still believe it? Only because it gives you an excuse to pretend there is no God and removed the accountability to Him, sounds like you are all pretty pathetic to just criticize people for their beliefs...I just figured I would throw that back and see how you like it...You have to be an ignorant fuck to believe you have all the answers when clearly not a single one of you has witnessed any of the experimentation to prove even a small part of evolution so ultimately you are talking out your ass.

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dude, go fuck a bible! what a fucking tard!

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Every time someone comes out and says "You're arguing over nothing" that person gets ridiculed. Like DC said, nothing all-or-nothing, especially "evolution".

ONe thing about this board i hate is that, you people are quick to call someone stupid, or "sheeps" for what they believe in. Neither is right, neither is wrong. The stupids are the ones ignorantly judging people.

AND, I'm pretty sure a lot you guys parents are religious. Mine is, but I don't call her stupid, or think she's wasting her life and her time. She CHOSE it.

From the wise words of the Beatles: Let it be.

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Poid said:

Yeah, let's stop worrying about serial killers and rapists. 'Let it be'.

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COMING FROM LEFT FIELD!!!!! POID!!!

psilyguy said:

doom876 said:

Nope, the bible is worse then worthless, just like the Koran, and the Torah. If a war is faught over your religious book, then it has a few too many kinks to deserve acknowledgment as being worthful. If I may take a page from William Buckley Jr.

If I could push a button and make all religion disappear, I would.


Not saying learning about these books because of their cultural significance is bad, but they have grown to ungodly and terrible proportions...just look at the hell in the holy land

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because a war is fought over a book, the book is worthless? that doesn't make any sense, its the people that are taking it too far. and who cares if other people practice a religion that you don't believe in? because you don't read the bible you don't think anyone in the world should share their spiritual beliefs with others? i'm not religious, but what you are saying just doesn't make sense. sure some established religions are run by corrupt people, but religion is just a set of standards and beliefs to enhance individual spirituality. it has nothing to do with war and corruption, that is all caused by PEOPLE.

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