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Cuban Embargo
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Just seen on Fox News that Pres. Obama is looking at the cuban embargo. He stated that he also wants to meet with Cuban Pres. Alot of talk about what it would take to repeal the embargo.

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: mister]
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It would take a vote in Congress.  That's all.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zappaisgod]
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If the embargo is repealed it would definitely go a long way towards improving Cuban quality of life, hell maybe they could get some new cars.

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: Man Unkind]
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And we could have another nice vacation spot!


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- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: pinkfloydms]
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pinkfloydms said:
And we could have another nice vacation spot!


it was America's #1 vacation destination before the revolution

there were really nice hotel resorts and stuff

Castro came in to distribute the wealth around, there was a problem with their either being really rich or really poor in Cuba. Castro's solution was to make everyone really poor. :smile:


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: aDoS]
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Cuba is a poor country because it is a poor country, not because it is a Communist one. There are plenty of poor Capitalist countries as proof of this.

It would be richer if the world's wealthiest country hadn't of embargoed it for the past 45+ years....

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: mister]
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I find it remarkable that the US, supposedly the "land of the free", forbids its citizens from visiting a neighbouring country.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zouden]
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Does it really? I can't think of far more absurd restrictions than that in the US.

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Does it really? I can't think of far more absurd restrictions than that in the US.


Let me try....


In the US, they do not allow marijuana seeds, unlike the UK and Canada, to be purchased or even posess them. But we can have shroom spores?:shrug:

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: mister]
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There is THC in seeds.  There is no Psilocybin in spores.  You can get high from seeds.  You can't from spores.

Given that Cuba trades with the entire rest of the world and for decades was a recipient of Soviet welfare you'd think that a silly thing like a US embargo wouldn't be a death sentence to their economy.  Unless it is because communism is a death sentence to an economy.  Whoa, what a concept.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: mister]
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Quote:
But we can have shroom spores?:shrug:


Not in California and Georgia! :crankey:


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Given that Cuba trades with the entire rest of the world and for decades was a recipient of Soviet welfare you'd think that a silly thing like a US embargo wouldn't be a death sentence to their economy. 


So, then, what's the point for the embargo? To send them a message? To make an example of them? "If you become communist then we will place travel restrictions on our own citizens!"


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                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zouden]
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Message, I guess, but even that's a relic at this point.  I don't give two shits about it either way any more.  They can go fuck themselves forever for all I care.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zappaisgod]
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So you agree the embargo may as well be dropped?


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You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zouden]
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May as well.  I don't see any particular reason either way.  Dominican cigars are better.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: Man Unkind]
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Are you sure about that? Prior to the revolution Cuba had a higher standard of living than fucking Britain. And their peso was equal to the US dollar.


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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

Edited by aDoS (02/24/09 05:56 PM)

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zouden]
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The problem for a politician isn't whether zappa cares, but whether the couple million rabid anti-Castro folks in America care, which they do.

They tend to vote in far greater numbers than your average American, as is common with immigrants from actually oppressive regimes.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: aDoS]
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aDoS said:
Are you sure about that? Prior to the revolution Cuba had a higher standard of living than fucking Britain.


source please

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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: Man Unkind]
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Yeah I'd like to see a source for that too.


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Re: Cuban Embargo [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
There is THC in seeds.  There is no Psilocybin in spores.  You can get high from seeds.  You can't from spores.

Given that Cuba trades with the entire rest of the world and for decades was a recipient of Soviet welfare you'd think that a silly thing like a US embargo wouldn't be a death sentence to their economy.  Unless it is because communism is a death sentence to an economy.  Whoa, what a concept.


As far as the socialism/capitalism dichotomy(whether it is real or perceived) is concerned I am neutral. However there is something you should know about the history of cuba. During the 90's due to the collapse of the soviet union cuba was barely able to import any oil. People started engaging in community farming projects in order to survive and people were even taking soil and putting it on top of their garages in order to make farms. During the 90's cubans were certainly in a dire situation, I am not sure what the situation is like currently in cuba. I do not know the full nature of the usa embargo and whether or not the usa influences other countries to restrict their trade with cuba.

To forbid Americans to visit cuba certainly infantilizes the American population to a degree.


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