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Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo.
    #4547537 - 08/17/05 06:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo
Wednesday, 17 August 2005
TEHRAN ? "Oil is the lifeline of the West, and most of the West's military industries are dependent on it,? the Tehran Times suggested in an editorial last week. Irritated by a recent resolution by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) that called for a halt to Iran?s uranium conversion program, the newspaper suggested that oil-rich states form a united front and use oil as a tool to confront "western neocolonialist countries."


In Venezuela, Pres. Hugo Chavez has taken the idea a step further, threatening to halt oil exports if alleged attacks on his country continue, according to Agence France Press. Appearing last week as a witness at a symbolic ?anti-imperialist court? in Caracas, Chavez said, ?Washington?s molestation may cause more serious problems; our two oil tankers going to the U.S. everyday may go to another country.? He added that the ?Northern America market is not compulsory for us.? Venezuela exports 1.5 million barrels of oil to the United States daily.


According to the Islamic Republic News Agency, the Iranian newspaper?s editorial described oil as ?the most potent economic weapon for settling scores,? and suggested an embargo on oil sales to the United States and European countries that are pressuring Iran to end its nuclear program. It also criticized what it sees as a double standard, noting that Israel, Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons, and that most of them have conducted tests.


In an interview with an Israeli TV station from his Texas ranch, Pres. Bush expressed doubts that the European Union?s diplomatic initiative to defuse the crisis over Iran?s nuclear activities would succeed, and refused to rule out the use of force. "All options are on the table," he said.


Israel has been prodding Washington to get tougher, charging that Iran resumed its nuclear activities because it sensed the "weakness" of the international community. "Iran made this decision because they are getting the impression that the United States and the Europeans are spineless," a senior official from Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office told Agence France Press.


The IAEA?s resolution expressed "serious concern" at Iran's resumption of uranium conversion and set a Sept. 3 deadline for its report on the country?s compliance. ?We want diplomacy to work,? Bush commented, ?and, you know, we will see if we are successful or not. As you know, I'm skeptical."

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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4547549 - 08/17/05 06:54 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Iran and Venezuela should discuss whether they will have a country by 2006.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4547560 - 08/17/05 06:56 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Good, maybe this will drive us towards alternative energies.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: Redstorm]
    #4547580 - 08/17/05 07:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Chavez must be seriously retarded if he thinks selling oil only to other countries will have any impact on our supply. The people he sells to will just sell it to us. Or some other nation that would have sold to Chavez's new customer will sell to us. The only way he could make a difference would be to stop selling entirely. Then of course his own people will lynch him. Same goes for the mad mullahs. Except for the lynching. They seem to be a good bit stronger than Chavez


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4547592 - 08/17/05 07:03 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

If we get is from the people he sells it to, though, prices should be higher when sold to us through a middle-man. It will have at least some affect on us.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: Redstorm]
    #4547608 - 08/17/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

That is certainly true. But it doesn't negate that the people who previously supplied his new customers will now have product to supply us. It will just have to be shipped further, as will Venezuela's product sent elsewhere. Total nonsense. The price increase would be minimal.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4547622 - 08/17/05 07:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Chavez is hallucinating.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4547623 - 08/17/05 07:11 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It's not as if this embargo is going to happen anyways. :shrug:


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: Redstorm]
    #4547631 - 08/17/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Venezuela likes America's money and America likes Venezuela's oil too much for this not to be Hugo Chavez talking out of his ass.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: Redstorm]
    #4548155 - 08/17/05 08:59 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Good, maybe this will drive us towards alternative energies.




Exactly. I can't wait for the day that the U.S. can flip the bird to OPEC and tell all of those oil-rich countries to kiss our ass.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4548787 - 08/17/05 10:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Shit yeah, We need to hurry up and stop depending on other countries for our energy. I'll be laughing when their economies collapse.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4549378 - 08/18/05 12:35 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

We can make oil from coal for about what we're paying for oil right now.

There is more coal in the U.S. than there is Oil in the entire world.

There is no threat of oil shortages to the U.S.

The problem with liquifaction of coal is that it produces quite a bit more CO2 than using liquid petroleum.



Israel just needs to shut it's bitch ass mouth.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4549484 - 08/18/05 12:55 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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Good, maybe this will drive us towards alternative energies.




Exactly. I can't wait for the day that the U.S. can flip the bird to OPEC and tell all of those oil-rich countries to kiss our ass.




I think we could do it right now if we wanted, fact is they just don't want to do anything to hurt their cash cow.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4549497 - 08/18/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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We can make oil from coal for about what we're paying for oil right now.





I've heard the figure of 30$ per barrel to make coal into oil and deliver it to market. But, it supposedly would cost a lot of money to get the coal to oil infrastructure built up.


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Re: Iran, Venezuela discuss oil embargo. [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4549762 - 08/18/05 02:12 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, basically.


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