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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
Dude, I defended you in the other thread, now I get why people think you're so friggin' annoying.

A life is to get out. Do stuff. See interesting things. Talk to plenty of people (yes, face-to-face, not online). Go to school, get a job, do volunteer work, all of the above. Chase your bliss. (Not ass.)

When you do all of this, it reflects naturally in your demeanor, and women are drawn to it like moths to a flame. The attractive ones learn how to avoid people who don't have a life very, very early on in their lives.



I want all that, it's just that people trip me out, and it's kind of hard for me to be a part of a social hierarchy; I refuse to be unless I'm at the top, it's as simple as that.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
And it's because of you. I keep telling you that, Poid.



What is?

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #16]
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I didn't say anything about becoming part of a social hierarchy. In fact, thinking about things in terms of "social hierarchies" will probably not help you, because it's not real.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Anonymous #17 said:
Anonymous #16 said:
Anonymous #17 said:
go watch people cheer for american idol and go to republican conventions and tell me people don't have all sorts of seething hatreds insecurities and sadisms.

even better go read the psychology reports about how humans act when you remove the social constraints against sadism and hurting people.  Like experiments with electric shocks, dogs, people being assigned to prisoner/guard roles, etc.  Human nature sucks, especially the human nature of people who don't know how to get high.  We don't want people acting like themselves, most people are barely better then the chimp that ripped off the womans face a few days ago.

:shrug: sorry it's true.



That's not human nature you buttfucking retard, that's the direct result of socio-political inefficiency.



you should google 'irony'

then you should realize sociopolitical inefficiency is the direct result of these scientifically established facts that are true for humans across cultures.  You have the wagon before the horse.



I know, the entire human race has been socio-politically inefficient since the dawn of modern civilization.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #16]
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And yet you, in spite of being a member of the human race, expect us to see how you have transcended being a member of the human race. Without performing any magic tricks.

Fail.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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actually they are real, and scientists know what they are.  when you are gregarious towards your bosses lame joke or your boss puts his foot on your desk, that's a social hierarchy acting unconsciously.  It's demonstrable that these behaviors correlate with social heirarchies.

You had the realization that things aren't real, now you need to have the realization that your belief "the things I don't like or understand or think are real" is itself not real or true.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Certainly social hierarchies are "real," my point is that they are abstract, not objective, and that they hurt you the most when you are thinking about them enough to let it influence your behavior.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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they are objective and measurable.

there is an uncanny valley of sophistication with regard to social hierarchies.  On one side of it, you're consciously in control of the hierarchical messages you send, in the other side, it's all unconscious.  In the middle is an area where they hurt you, but being completely conscious of it and able to manipulate it is a helpful thing to achieving your aims.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
And yet you, in spite of being a member of the human race, expect us to see how you have transcended being a member of the human race. Without performing any magic tricks.

Fail.



Jesus once said something along the lines of, ":thebird:".

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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I personally try not to think about the hierarchies, or of being "master" or "slave" as Nietzsche described the two roles you can play in any given social hierarchy. Seems like some pretty depressing shit to me. I don't want to be a slave but I'd rather not fixate on being master either. Seems the best way to avoid being played is to avoid playing, and in the meantime to just chase your bliss, like I said earlier.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #16]
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Anonymous #16 said:
Anonymous #7 said:
And yet you, in spite of being a member of the human race, expect us to see how you have transcended being a member of the human race. Without performing any magic tricks.

Fail.



Jesus once said something along the lines of, ":thebird:".



OK, so give me your address so I can send some water. I want some wine.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Anonymous #17 said:
actually they are real, and scientists know what they are.  when you are gregarious towards your bosses lame joke or your boss puts his foot on your desk, that's a social hierarchy acting unconsciously.  It's demonstrable that these behaviors correlate with social heirarchies.

You had the realization that things aren't real, now you need to have the realization that your belief "the things I don't like or understand or think are real" is itself not real or true.



Dude, I am way above you in the hierarchy of spiritual realization, don't lecture me on these things. :snub:

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
Anonymous #16 said:
Anonymous #7 said:
And yet you, in spite of being a member of the human race, expect us to see how you have transcended being a member of the human race. Without performing any magic tricks.

Fail.



Jesus once said something along the lines of, ":thebird:".



OK, so give me your address so I can send some water. I want some wine.



No, you just want some "whine". :yesnod:

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Anonymous #17 said:
they are objective and measurable.

there is an uncanny valley of sophistication with regard to social hierarchies.  On one side of it, you're consciously in control of the hierarchical messages you send, in the other side, it's all unconscious.  In the middle is an area where they hurt you, but being completely conscious of it and able to manipulate it is a helpful thing to achieving your aims.



Finally, someone with some useful insight.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #16]
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Well, if you can do magic tricks like Jesus then people will listen when you talk about how awful people are.

If you can't, you're just going to look like a fucking asshole.

I'm sure you're going to come up with some silly little quippy retort, and honestly, I don't care and don't plan on continuing the discussion.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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bill hicks had that same insight except instead of using magic he used comedy to get people to listen about how stupid they actually are.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
I personally try not to think about the hierarchies, or of being "master" or "slave" as Nietzsche described the two roles you can play in any given social hierarchy. Seems like some pretty depressing shit to me. I don't want to be a slave but I'd rather not fixate on being master either. Seems the best way to avoid being played is to avoid playing, and in the meantime to just chase your bliss, like I said earlier.



so you want to demonstrate mastery by not having to be a \\master of anything and you want to play the game of not playing a game?

am I misreading you?

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Anonymous #17 said:
bill hicks had that same insight except instead of using magic he used comedy to get people to listen about how stupid they actually are.



For the purposes of this discussion, comedy = magic.

Really, anything that blows people's minds qualifies as "magic." Interminable whining =/= magic.

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #17]
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Anonymous #17 said:
so you want to demonstrate mastery by not having to be a \\master of anything and you want to play the game of not playing a game?

am I misreading you?



Yeah, you are. I don't want to be master OR slave. I just want to be me, whatever that entails. It seems to me that seeking mastery over others is slavery in itself.

Edited by Tchan909 (02/20/09 12:55 AM)

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Re: To all of you guys who can't get women [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
I didn't say anything about becoming part of a social hierarchy. In fact, thinking about things in terms of "social hierarchies" will probably not help you, because it's not real.




Quote:
Certainly social hierarchies are "real,"



:banghead::whack::banghead::whack::cruelworld:

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