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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Atheist]
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Ok Einstein.


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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

-Albert Einstein




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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: DR. PRIME]
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JESUS IS THE MAN!

christianity = learning from jesus

Christianity = WIN - (retards)


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Atheist]
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You can tell who has the Golden Ring in this thread.:heartpump: I wish it for all, but some don't care to wear it.

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: AroundtheSon]
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AroundtheSon said:
You can tell who has the Golden Ring in this thread.:heartpump: I wish it for all, but some don't care to wear it.



what do you mean by that?


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: pong]
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Im amazed at how well this thread is doing. I expected it to die out long ago. :shrug:


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: pong]
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I speak in parables so only the wise can discern it. :shrug: :hehehe:

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: AroundtheSon]
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wow you suck


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: pong]
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:lol:

you ever listen to Eric Clapton?

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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Tea,

Your question has already been asked by South Park :smile:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_the_Handicapped_Go_to_Hell%3F

This is kind of different, but I once spoke to a Muslim priest and he said following the Koran is like a guide to keep one OUT of sin. In other words, you are born innocent, and encounter sin, and the Koran teaches you what to do when you encounter it. So theoretically, if one never encounters sin, one doesn't need the Koran to guide them and teach them the "right" choices.

I think the Christian belief is that you not are born innocent, but rather born in sin, and Jesus takes you out of it.

Maybe your guy would end up in purgatory? :shrug:


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: AroundtheSon]
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nope

my bad if i didnt get it or something haha.


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Edited by pong (02/03/09 12:10 AM)

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: proud_republican]
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proud_republican said:
no. he wasnt ever taught that jesus and christianity are the right path. its the same thing with people in say... india who were born and raised hindu. they were never shown so they are exempt.

(btw, im an athiest because the simpke idea of any religion makes me laugh my ass off. i do however, have an aunt who is one of those "accept christ of burn forever in the fiery pits of hell" christians, whom ive asked a question similar to this one)



don't know if its been said already, and i don't feel like reading 6 pages.

But I have always loved this theory.  If your never taught the ways of or exposed to jesus, then you go to heaven, since you are naive to the concept.  So, would this not make missionaries, those sent to other countries to spread the word, people who damn others to hell?

If you go to India, to spread the word of the christian god, you are GUARANTEED not to make christianity the dominant religion of the country.  If you never go, then those you do not make contact with know no better, so get to go to heaven, however, if you talk to them about it, and they don't accept it (and probably won't, as its ridiculous to believe one way is right, and another is wrong, especially when your spreading a much younger religion, but thats another argument) then you have pretty much just sent them to hell.

missionaries, please quit doing the work of the devil and building satan's army.

peace

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: supra]
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supra said:
proud_republican said:
no. he wasnt ever taught that jesus and christianity are the right path. its the same thing with people in say... india who were born and raised hindu. they were never shown so they are exempt.

(btw, im an athiest because the simpke idea of any religion makes me laugh my ass off. i do however, have an aunt who is one of those "accept christ of burn forever in the fiery pits of hell" christians, whom ive asked a question similar to this one)



don't know if its been said already, and i don't feel like reading 6 pages.

But I have always loved this theory.  If your never taught the ways of or exposed to jesus, then you go to heaven, since you are naive to the concept.  So, would this not make missionaries, those sent to other countries to spread the word, people who damn others to hell?

If you go to India, to spread the word of the christian god, you are GUARANTEED not to make christianity the dominant religion of the country.  If you never go, then those you do not make contact with know no better, so get to go to heaven, however, if you talk to them about it, and they don't accept it (and probably won't, as its ridiculous to believe one way is right, and another is wrong, especially when your spreading a much younger religion, but thats another argument) then you have pretty much just sent them to hell.

missionaries, please quit doing the work of the devil and building satan's army.

peace



My thoughts exactly! If being ignorant of Christ saves one from hell then why are we spreading this garbage? There should be a law in effect that makes the mentioning of Christ punishable by manslaughter.

It may sound stupid, but it makes as much sense as Cannabis being Illegal huh:shrug:


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Almond Flour]
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THATS WHY GOD/JESUS/HEAVEN/HELL IS FAKE

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Atheist]
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Atheist said:
THATS WHY GOD/JESUS/HEAVEN/HELL IS FAKE



Believing the words from a fantasy book written by an unknown author 2000 years ago about a schizophrenic man thinking he is the son of god.  Yeah that makes total sense:rolleyes:


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Atheist]
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LIFE IS FAKE :awesome:


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Edited by DR. PRIME (02/02/09 08:39 PM)

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: DR. PRIME]
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I once asked my Evangelical preacher dad if somebody who lived on a remote island and never heard the name Jesus would go to Hell for not being a believer.

His answer: Jesus would reveal himself to the islander. If the islander accepted Revealed Jesus into his heart, he could avoid Hell. :lol:

The other thing that really pisses me off about Christianity is, since I'm not Jewish, all of my ancestors who lived before ~40AD automatically went to Hell b/c Yahweh was too lazy to send his son at the beginning of time. :thumbdown:

that would of course be assuming that both Yahweh and Jesus actually existed. Thank God they aren't real.

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: uber_aj]
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uber_aj said:
The other thing that really pisses me off about Christianity is, since I'm not Jewish, all of my ancestors who lived before ~40AD automatically went to Hell b/c Yahweh was too lazy to send his son at the beginning of time. :thumbdown:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_hell


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: sandman_130]
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sandman_130 said:
Every perfect calculation that keeps the earth stable and supporting life is impossible by chance.

Why do you read a science book and figure the odds out.




The odds may be really slim, but theres been enough time and enough "rolls of the dice" for the right combination to come up for really unusual things like life to come into existence. Given enough time, even the most unlikely things are bound to happen. Especially in a universe that undergoes continuous cycles of death/rebirth, and with all the random quantum fluctuations that are always happening. The universe is always rearranging itself and things like life are going to pop up just by chance.

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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: sandman_130]
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Quote:

sandman_130 said:

Every perfect calculation that keeps the earth stable and supporting life is impossible by chance.



Why is it impossible? And by the way, there is no perfect calculation for the earth to be stable. The possibility of life on earth is possible from scientific conjecture, and in fact more plausible than than life being created by a conscious omnipotent being that has an agenda of morals and a basis for how this organism should live its life.  Many people claim to be the son of god, they're called schizophrenic.  And the fact he was born of a virgin... now THAT is impossible by chance.


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Re: A challenge to Christianity [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Actually virgin births are possible but extremely rare.

Don't remember where Ive seen/read this.


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Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!


There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





4-Methyl-Aminorex

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