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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: Ferris]
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> I asked you to show the organization is guilty, which you clearly haven't done.

Guilty of what? Hiring people that will stuff the ballet boxes with bogus voters?  I think that has been clearly shown.


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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
Their name does sound familiar somehow.

I'm ignoring this until I see a conviction though.  People sign the wrong shit all the time, it's the fact of life for the business.



Signing voters up as Fred Flintsone and Leon Spinks is not someone signing the wrong thing.  You asked for convictions, I gave you 4.  From the first google page.  That is no doubt the tip of their iceberg.  They also have a habit of flooding election offices with thousands of registrations a day before the deadline.  At any rate, here's a good link on ACORN.  Follow it, it has other links.
http://theunionnews.blogspot.com/2008/09/acorn-corruption-runs-rampant.html

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In Milwaukee there is a criminal investigation into the activities of 39 ACORN employees. The violations include falsifying legal documents (driver’s license numbers, Social Security numbers, etc) for voter registration cards and offering gifts to get people to sign up to vote.

    “(ACORN) Workers … said they were under pressure from the community-organizing group that hired them to sign up more voters,” The Seattle Times reported . “Workers told investigators they went to the Seattle public library and filled out the voter registration forms, by using contrived names, addresses and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book.”




There's more.  There's always more.


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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: Seuss]
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But that's not a crime.  Maybe if they had encouraged the workers to do so directly, or ignored known bad signatures.  Those are crimes.

“(ACORN) Workers … said they were under pressure from the community-organizing group that hired them to sign up more voters,” The Seattle Times reported . “Workers told investigators they went to the Seattle public library and filled out the voter registration forms, by using contrived names, addresses and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book.”

What possible advantage would there be to the organization to do this?  The workers get paid, so they have motive.  It's not like they ever "stuffed the ballot boxes," as Suess so eloquently put it, with those names.  THAT would be majorly, majorly bad.


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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: Ferris]
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Oi.


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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: zappaisgod]
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We're talking about voter registration for christs sake.  This organization does a million other things and stretches itself thin.  Look up what it has accomplished in the last few decades, then look [my avatar] straight in the eyes and tell me that they are an evil organization.  They're underfunded for what they accomplish, and had therefore [the higher ups] lacked the ability to provide oversight on every signature received, rather relying on checking the list, what I assume is only one time.


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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Oi.




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Re: From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals [Re: zappaisgod]
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ok, truce


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