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Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN
#9067822 - 10/12/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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If ACORN is such an above-board, on-the-up-and-up bipartisan organization, why has Obama been doing everything he can to minimize the history of his involvement with it?
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The Cleveland Leader has a series of posts tracking the Obama campaign’s lies and evasions about the candidate’s long history of connections with ACORN, and their attempts to quietly edit the Obama website as more information leaks out: Obama Campaign Involved in More Cover-Ups in ACORN Scandal.
Wikileaks.org has an article from the Winter 2003 edition of the magazine Social Policy (the full article is here, but requires registration), making it very clear that Barack Obama’s ties to ACORN are extensive.
(Here’s our local copy of the PDF file.)
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[Photo caption: “ACORN members meet with Illinois Senate candidate Barack Obama. Photo courtesy Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.”]
Obama started building the base years before. For instance, ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act, also known as motor voter. Allied only with the state of Mississippi, Illinois had been refusing to allow mass-based voter registration according to the new law. Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them).
Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends.
Hope and change FTW right on!
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Phred]
#9067848 - 10/12/08 07:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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probibly because of the voter fraud they are connected to. I mean could you imagine how scandalous it would be to be an elected ruler with a huge voter fraud scandal to cloud over your presidency? The only thing that could be more embarrassing is if he choked on a pretzel or fell off a segway scooter.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: ScavengerType]
#9067877 - 10/12/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ScavengerType said: probibly because of the voter fraud they are connected to. I mean could you imagine how scandalous it would be to be an elected ruler with a huge voter fraud scandal to cloud over your presidency? The only thing that could be more embarrassing is if he choked on a pretzel or fell off a segway scooter.
That's a picture of Bush falling off a segway scooter-
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: ScavengerType]
#9067913 - 10/12/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ScavengerType said: probibly because of the voter fraud they are connected to. I mean could you imagine how scandalous it would be to be an elected ruler with a huge voter fraud scandal to cloud over your presidency?
You mean like what happened with Bush?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#9067925 - 10/12/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why have I never seen that pic?
Phred, I disagree that a minimization/spin effort is in and of itself an admission of guilt under these circumstances. It's pretty clear that there doesn't have to be anything to a potential scandal for it to make a large difference.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Phred]
#9068556 - 10/12/08 10:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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"As of yesterday, Fightthesmears.com stated:
Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
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Sometime on Friday, the website was altered, and the text was changed to state:
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Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
ACORN is now under the bus!
So many lies......
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9068940 - 10/12/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's funny how he suddenly has no ties with them but he wants them to help with his agenda while in office, ACORN is just code pink with a different wardrobe
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9070133 - 10/13/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, fuck ACORN, trying to get the poor and minorities registered to vote. Assholes.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9070138 - 10/13/08 09:06 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: it's funny how he suddenly has no ties with them but he wants them to help with his agenda while in office, ACORN is just code pink with a different wardrobe
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=
OMGZ you called ACORN a wardrobe. You sexist evil racist.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070156 - 10/13/08 09:10 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yossarian22 said: Yeah, fuck ACORN, trying to get the poor and minorities registered to vote. Assholes.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/10/acorn-files-vot.html
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ST. LOUIS - Attorneys for the voting registration organizations ACORN and Project Vote filed an anti-discrimination voting rights suit in the U.S. Federal District court this morning, alleging the United States government is involved in "a widespread, systematic effort to disenfranchise Imaginary-Americans and deprive them of access to polls."
It is a stunningly easy matter for anyone to register to vote. Anybody who needs help is either infirm or insane.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070174 - 10/13/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another factor driving Obama's distancing himself from ACORN is the results of their strong arm tactics coercing banks to lend to bums and deadbeats, which results have become quite evident recently. Strong arm tactics that Obama helped train them in. Organizing, heh.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070195 - 10/13/08 09:19 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, because republicans have never tried to disenfranchise black and lower class citizens by threatening checks on outstanding warrants or posting jack booted thugs at polls or anything...
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: afoaf]
#9070273 - 10/13/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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afoaf said: yeah, because republicans have never tried to disenfranchise black and lower class citizens by threatening checks on outstanding warrants or posting jack booted thugs at polls or anything...
Today u defend them, Yesterday you called them "Niggers"......
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9064562#9064562
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070276 - 10/13/08 09:45 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yossarian22 said: Yeah, fuck ACORN, trying to get the poor and minorities registered to vote. Assholes.
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/10/acorn-files-vot.html
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ST. LOUIS - Attorneys for the voting registration organizations ACORN and Project Vote filed an anti-discrimination voting rights suit in the U.S. Federal District court this morning, alleging the United States government is involved in "a widespread, systematic effort to disenfranchise Imaginary-Americans and deprive them of access to polls."
It is a stunningly easy matter for anyone to register to vote. Anybody who needs help is either infirm or insane.
If you're gonna cite a source, choose a better one than "Iowa Hawk". Yes, registering is easy but there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to register and giving them information about voting.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070282 - 10/13/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Another factor driving Obama's distancing himself from ACORN is the results of their strong arm tactics coercing banks to lend to bums and deadbeats, which results have become quite evident recently. Strong arm tactics that Obama helped train them in. Organizing, heh.
Again, nobody outside the right-wing echosphere believes that nonsense.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070346 - 10/13/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're gonna cite a source, choose a better one than "Iowa Hawk". Yes, registering is easy but there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to register and giving them information about voting.
Iowahawk is not a source. It's satire. And so is this:
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070349 - 10/13/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Another factor driving Obama's distancing himself from ACORN is the results of their strong arm tactics coercing banks to lend to bums and deadbeats, which results have become quite evident recently. Strong arm tactics that Obama helped train them in. Organizing, heh.
Again, nobody outside the right-wing echosphere believes that nonsense.
Whatever you say MarKos.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070351 - 10/13/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow you got him good. Your soooo funny.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070352 - 10/13/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ACORN has done a lot of good. Since the fraudulent registrations were so blatantly poorly done that a kid could tell they were forged, I suspect that some forms were lost or stolen and ended up in the wrong hands.
I'm sure if and when the true story ever comes out, it was probably a foe of ACORN who turned in the fraudulent registrations to cause a 'scandal', and the right-wing has sure bitten the bait. After all, it gives them something besides the depression to talk about. RR
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9070355 - 10/13/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hell if I got paid per registration card I turned in I may turn in a few extra also.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070363 - 10/13/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Hell if I got paid per registration card I turned in I may turn in a few extra also.
See. Even you are corrupted by the ACORN model. And make no mistake; it is corruption. Has it ever occurred to any of you defenders of this voter fraud that every vote cast by a dead ACORN dilutes YOUR vote?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070371 - 10/13/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Our vote doesn't mean shit anyway.
There hasn't been voter fraud yet, since these people haven't voted. How are these fake people going to vote when they won't have I.D.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070377 - 10/13/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why the hell do you have to register anyways?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070424 - 10/13/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Our vote doesn't mean shit anyway.
There hasn't been voter fraud yet, since these people haven't voted. How are these fake people going to vote when they won't have I.D.
Another leftard issue is screaming about requiring ID at the voting booth. To them, it's a bad idea. Because they know they are the cheaters.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070443 - 10/13/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is a stunningly easy matter for anyone to register to vote. Anybody who needs help is either infirm or insane.
Where will they send the registration card if you don't have an address?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070445 - 10/13/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Hell if I got paid per registration card I turned in I may turn in a few extra also.
I bet u would! All those “new Democratic” registration numbers skew the polls that you love to post!
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9070473 - 10/13/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Polls are based on Calls made to voters. Not how many are registered. There may be some out there that use registration, but I go by www.realclearpolitics.com
Also I would be registering people for independent or some kind of 3rd party not dem or rep.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#9070478 - 10/13/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is a stunningly easy matter for anyone to register to vote. Anybody who needs help is either infirm or insane.
Where will they send the registration card if you don't have an address?
You can't vote if you don't have an address. What district do you vote in? Any one you like? And you can always go to any number of places to register. I never received a registration card in the mail in my life.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070503 - 10/13/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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What, so homeless people shouldn't be able to vote?
If you own more than one home, does that mean you can vote once for each house?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#9070511 - 10/13/08 10:50 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: What, so homeless people shouldn't be able to vote?
No, they can declare a shelter as their address. Or a church or something.Quote:
If you own more than one home, does that mean you can vote once for each house?
No. You can only vote in one place.
Do you really not know the answers to these questions or is this a fucking quiz?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070522 - 10/13/08 10:54 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Polls are based on Calls made to voters. Not how many are registered.
Believe whatever want.
IMO a surge of bogus ACORN registrations causes the pollsters to change the weight of the number of respondents they use.
For Example:
A battleground state had a 40%-40% Democrat, Republican split.
Acorn comes along and registers another 50,000 thousand democratic voters.
This would cause the pollsters to change the weight and the number of respondents they use. (45% Democrats and only 35% Republicans.)
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Which polls do this besides fivethirtyeight.com?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070580 - 10/13/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: You sexist evil racist.
I wont deny it, in fact I'll help spread that rumor if you'll buy me a klan suit
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I am from TN, you can just borrow my extra.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9070617 - 10/13/08 11:20 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Hell if I got paid per registration card I turned in I may turn in a few extra also.
See. Even you are corrupted by the ACORN model. And make no mistake; it is corruption. Has it ever occurred to any of you defenders of this voter fraud that every vote cast by a dead ACORN dilutes YOUR vote?
This is so stupid the mind boggles. First, ACORN workers are paid by the hour, not the registration card. Secondly, there's a difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud- and there has yet to be any evidence of the latter. Just because "Mickey Mouse" on "123 Fake Street" puts in a registration doesn't mean he or she will be able to vote. Also, under federal law, it is illegal for organizations like ACORN to throw out registrations even if it's obviously fake(ACORN hands them over to the election office but flags ones that appear to be fake). Doing so is a FELONY. But go ahead and blame ACORN for passing along fake registration forms(that they didn't create) which they are required by law to.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: RogerRabbit]
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RogerRabbit said: ACORN has done a lot of good.
Hitler did a lot of good, Germany's economy was booming, he boosted employment, Hitler brought Germany out of a great depression, hitler did so much good for germany, I'm sure Obama will too
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
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pinkfloydms said: Which polls do this besides fivethirtyeight.com?
I think most Polls weight the number of respondents they use.
Personally I,ve never seen a poll that did not have a higher sample of democrats.
Have you ever seen a poll that had a higher sample of republicans?
For example this New Newsweek Poll used
1,035 Registered voters
280 Republicans
402 Democrats
http://www.newsweek.com/id/163337
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Yes but they don't target republicans or democrats. They just call off a list of likely/ registered voters.
What good would it do to call 50% republicans and 50% democrats? The polls would prolly be tied all the time.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
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So you're saying its luck that these polls always sample more democrats?
seriously?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070647 - 10/13/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Yes but they don't target republicans or democrats. They just call off a list of likely/ registered voters.
What good would it do to call 50% republicans and 50% democrats? The polls would prolly be tied all the time.
which of these polls show the independent support? seems they're calling from the list at the ACORN offices, I dont seem to recall them asking for my phone number on my voter registration card, how do they get the number again?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Maybe there are just more democrats than republicans. What makes you think there are equal numbers of each.
After 8 years of Bush, I'm not surprised that their numbers are dwindling.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#9070664 - 10/13/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: Maybe there are just more democrats than republicans. What makes you think there are equal numbers of each.
that's a hell of a margin, more than 2:1 which suggests that most of the democrats fear obama and are voting McCain, glad to see ACORN doing the lords work now
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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lonestar2004 said: So you're saying its luck that these polls always sample more democrats?
seriously?
No what I'm saying is at this time there are more Obama supporters than McCain supporters. So if you have say 60% of people supporting Obam and 40% of people supporting McCain, chances are your going to get a higher number of dems to republicans when you call.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9070670 - 10/13/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: So you're saying its luck that these polls always sample more democrats?
seriously?
No, it's because there are far more registered Democrats than Republicans. This is a fact. Partially, it's because most moderate Republicans have traditionally labeled themselves "independent" and partially because the Republican party is about as popular now as the clap.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said: Maybe there are just more democrats than republicans. What makes you think there are equal numbers of each.
After 8 years of Bush, I'm not surprised that their numbers are dwindling.
the 2004 election results were 39% - 39% tie.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
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pinkfloydms said: Yes but they don't target republicans or democrats. They just call off a list of likely/ registered voters.
What good would it do to call 50% republicans and 50% democrats? The polls would prolly be tied all the time.
which of these polls show the independent support? seems they're calling from the list at the ACORN offices, I dont seem to recall them asking for my phone number on my voter registration card, how do they get the number again?
I don't know where they get the numbers. There are polls that sample all though.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
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pinkfloydms said: Yes but they don't target republicans or democrats. They just call off a list of likely/ registered voters.
What good would it do to call 50% republicans and 50% democrats? The polls would prolly be tied all the time.
which of these polls show the independent support? seems they're calling from the list at the ACORN offices, I dont seem to recall them asking for my phone number on my voter registration card, how do they get the number again?
I don't know where they get the numbers. There are polls that sample all though.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html
I find it amazing that of all those polls not a single 'undecided', 100% of the voters know exactly whom they'll vote for... or are they tacking the undecided voters onto obamas ass because they know the voters will come around
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070707 - 10/13/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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[quotepinkfloydms] said:
I don't know where they get the numbers. There are polls that sample all though.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html
me either.
Did u notice in your link that every poll that oversampled republicans McCain was winning and that the polls that oversampled democrats had Obama winning?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
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pinkfloydms said: Yes but they don't target republicans or democrats. They just call off a list of likely/ registered voters.
What good would it do to call 50% republicans and 50% democrats? The polls would prolly be tied all the time.
which of these polls show the independent support? seems they're calling from the list at the ACORN offices, I dont seem to recall them asking for my phone number on my voter registration card, how do they get the number again?
I don't know where they get the numbers. There are polls that sample all though.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html
I find it amazing that of all those polls not a single 'undecided', 100% of the voters know exactly whom they'll vote for... or are they tacking the undecided voters onto obamas ass because they know the voters will come around
Just because they don't explicitly list the undecideds doesn't mean they're not there. There's this wonderful thing called arithmetic; see if you can figure it out.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9070720 - 10/13/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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The last I seen on CNN, it showed about 9% of the voters were undecided.
Maybe some polls kick out undecideds?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070723 - 10/13/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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fuck all that, we'll leave the numbers and counting to the economists that couldnt see the financial crisis coming
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070736 - 10/13/08 11:49 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Maybe some polls kick out undecideds?
a lot simply dont list them, some classify those supporting independent supporters as undecided... the fact that we even have these retards doing polls is beyond me, elections should be like christmas, you get a big box in wrapping paper and you're really hoping it's a new TV, instead it's a box of bricks and a dead mouse
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070742 - 10/13/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is so stupid the mind boggles. First, ACORN workers are paid by the hour, not the registration card. Secondly, there's a difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud- and there has yet to be any evidence of the latter.
Elections board testimony: ACORN pestered me into registering multiple times
Two Cleveland men who each signed multiple registration cards as part of a national voter registration drive told the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections today they did so to help ACORN canvassers keep their jobs.
One of the men said he was sometimes offered a cigarette or a dollar bill by workers with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
"They would come up with a sob story when they needed a signature," said Freddie Johnson.
The other man, who came to the board wearing a Domino's pizza delivery shirt, said he would tell ACORN workers who approached him while he was reading on Public Square that he already was registered. But the workers would persist.
"They'd just keep saying I could help them hold onto a job," said Christopher Barkley.
ACORN canvassers had quotas and often had to scramble to meet them.
nothing is ever Obama fault.
nothing is ever Acorns fault....
they always claim to be just sacrificing to help the poor man....
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/acorn_canvassers_pestered_peop.html
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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Actually, they suspended those quotas in August due to criticism. And so far all you've shown is that some individual members got people to file duplicate registrations(which, again, couldn't lead to fraudulent voting- multiple registrations are simply ignored). Sure, they should be fired and possibly subject to prosecution, but you can't use that to smear the entire organization. In fact, ACORN is so mainstream that John McCain saw fit to be the headliner for one of their events. But of course, in the hands of the Republican character assassins, nobody's safe.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9070838 - 10/13/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yossarian22 said: And so far all you've shown is that some individual members got people to file duplicate registrations(which, again, couldn't lead to fraudulent voting- multiple registrations are simply ignored).
so you're suggesting that a thousand people decided to commit voter fraud independently for a meager $40 a day, subjected themselves to criminal prosecution for a few peanuts? and not a single one got these instructions from higher up, no trainers, no supervisors, no one told them to do this?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9070846 - 10/13/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought they got paid on a per registration kind of deal, like a quota. If it were a set amount a day you got paid, no matter how many people you got registered, well I dont think you would see this happen as much.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9070857 - 10/13/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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they had quotas of 20 registrations per day and a pay of $8/hr for canvasing, it's all about making the numbers, just like cops dont have quotas but they have to write a certain number of tickets in order to show they're actually working
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9070875 - 10/13/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bums will say anything for a sandwich and 5 dollars in booze money. Hell, they'll probably lie for free if it means they get to be on tv.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
#9070907 - 10/13/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure that ACORN had lots of sammiches and dollars to pass around, in fact one of them even mentioned he was getting money each time he registered...
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said: Bums will say anything for a sandwich and 5 dollars in booze money. Hell, they'll probably lie for free if it means they get to be on tv.
so now you guys are claiming that the "bums" made this entire Acorn story up?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9070928 - 10/13/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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So they'll do anything for money, but it's not possible that they could be paid for all this? I'm just letting you guys demonstrate for me that they're not exactly the most credible witnesses.
This is the dumbest scandal I've seen in years since none of it actually matters; and thanks to the recent desperation of the right wingers, there has been a lot of real dumb scandals a-foot. You act as if any one of these cards actually has been registered, let alone allowed to vote. I assure you, their triple checking right now. We'd probably know by now if one of them had been registered on accident.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
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We all know the republicans didn't just outright not count votes in Florida.
Remember Katherine Harris?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
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She just stopped the vote mid-count when bush was ahead.
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As Secretary of State for the State of Florida, Harris was a central figure in the contested 2000 US presidential election in Florida. There were allegations of conflicts of interest and partisan and unethical behavior during the 2000 campaign. Harris had been named as Bush's Florida campaign co-chair the year before.
Harris certified that the Republican candidate, then-Texas Governor George W. Bush, had defeated the Democratic candidate, then-Vice President Al Gore, in the popular vote of Florida and thus certified the Republican slate of electors. Despite the fact that the margin separating Bush from Gore was only a few hundred votes, with thousands of votes remaining to be counted, Harris ordered a halt to the count, freezing Bush's small margin in place. Her ruling was challenged and overturned on appeal by Florida's Supreme Court; this decision, however, was itself reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore. That Court ruled (5-4) that Gore's request to extend Florida's statutory deadline for ballot re-counts had no merit because no Florida law at the time provided for that option. This ruling nullified the state court's decision, upholding Harris' certification. The decision foreclosed any further court challenges by Gore and resulted in Bush's margin of victory in Florida being officially tallied at 537 votes. Therefore, Florida's electoral votes — and the Presidency — went to Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
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This is the dumbest scandal I've seen in years since none of it actually matters; and thanks to the recent desperation of the right wingers, there has been a lot of real dumb scandals a-foot.
It fucking "Matters" to me as an American Taxpayer! ACORN makes me SICK!
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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How much money was wasted because of Florida's republican scandal? Between court and recounts. Having all that money do absolutely nothing made plenty of people pretty pissed I'm sure.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9071048 - 10/13/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Al Gore and Florida?
something needs to be done NOW, TODAY with ACORN!
ACORN is a Federally -funded corrupt organization!
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
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This is the dumbest scandal I've seen in years since none of it actually matters; and thanks to the recent desperation of the right wingers, there has been a lot of real dumb scandals a-foot.
It fucking "Matters" to me as an American Taxpayer! ACORN makes me SICK!
It has had no demonstrable tangible effect other than hurting your feelings, which I'll grant, but unless you can show that someone has been registered and/or cast a vote illegally, then no, it does not "matter" under the more concrete definition of the word.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
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This is the dumbest scandal I've seen in years since none of it actually matters; and thanks to the recent desperation of the right wingers, there has been a lot of real dumb scandals a-foot.
It fucking "Matters" to me as an American Taxpayer! ACORN makes me SICK!
It has had no demonstrable tangible effect other than hurting your feelings, which I'll grant, but unless you can show that someone has been registered and/or cast a vote illegally, then no, it does not "matter" under the more concrete definition of the word.
Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity."
After: "• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee."
I wonder why Obama had to scrub his "Fight the Smears" website?
Maybe Obama knows something is going to "matter" soon....
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
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they're not exactly the most credible witnesses.
apparently some of the whistle blowers had jobs, they were not homeless
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This is the dumbest scandal I've seen in years since none of it actually matters
it doesnt matter that a 'good' organization seeking to do 'good' things for the 'good' people of the black community is doing bad things including fraud and doing so with taxpayer money... wow, no wonder you like obama and defend him to the death, infidelity=bad, fraud=good
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You act as if any one of these cards actually has been registered
isnt conspiracy to commit a crime also a crime? if the cops stopped the bank robbers on their way into the bank then it's not like they actually committed a crime since no robbery actually took place, I mean sure there was intent but they didnt actually complete the action because they were caught before the crime occurred... just shake your finger at them and send them home with a warning right?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9071123 - 10/13/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: Al Gore and Florida?
something needs to be done NOW, TODAY with ACORN!
ACORN is a Federally -funded corrupt organization!
See, exactly what I was saying. You don't truly care about democracy. You just want republicans to win/cheat their way into office.
Which leads me to believe that if this were McCain you wouldn't be saying a damn thing about it.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9071178 - 10/13/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: Al Gore and Florida?
something needs to be done NOW, TODAY with ACORN!
ACORN is a Federally -funded corrupt organization!
See, exactly what I was saying. You don't truly care about democracy. You just want republicans to win/cheat their way into office.
Which leads me to believe that if this were McCain you wouldn't be saying a damn thing about it.
NO, this thread is about Obama and ACORN trying to steal this election! 2008
This thread is NOT about AL gore and the Democrats trying to steal a previous election. 2000
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9071192 - 10/13/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well shit, every time I try to make a thread about McCain either you or zappa come in there talking about Obama.
Again with the double standards.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9071231 - 10/13/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gore tried to steal the election from bush? It was gore who made them quit counting when bush was ahead>?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9071237 - 10/13/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Harris certified that the Republican candidate, then-Texas Governor George W. Bush, had defeated the Democratic candidate, then-Vice President Al Gore, in the popular vote of Florida and thus certified the Republican slate of electors. Despite the fact that the margin separating Bush from Gore was only a few hundred votes, with thousands of votes remaining to be counted, Harris ordered a halt to the count, freezing Bush's small margin in place.
so harris certified that bush was the winner even though the vote wasnt completely tabulated, al gore cried and took it to court
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Her ruling was challenged and overturned on appeal by Florida's Supreme Court
the state supreme court cried foul and said that was unfair to gore claiming that harris was a doodoo head
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this decision, however, was itself reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore. That Court ruled (5-4) that Gore's request to extend Florida's statutory deadline for ballot re-counts had no merit because no Florida law at the time provided for that option. This ruling nullified the state court's decision, upholding Harris' certification.
the US Supreme Court said Harris may in fact be a doodie head but Gore was in fact a buttface cry baby for even questioning the supreme authority of a republican ballot counter
oh wait a minutes, there were those things called special circumstances, like TIME coming into play, time expired and the count ended, it's typical of democrats to try changing to rules of the game after they lose.
seems ACORN wants to play games that will cost them their tax dollars, where they gonna be then, the soup line with the bums they buy the votes from?
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I would say this is a hell of a lot worse.
whats worse, democrats dont think the laws apply to them, obviously it's worse because the law applies to everyone except obama because he's the savior of man kind
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9071269 - 10/13/08 02:05 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why did time expire Pris?? It was because of cuntface.
So basically your saying that even if someone cheats and it's found out it's ok because they didn't get it straightened out in time?
The time clause should have been put on hold for extenuating circumstances like that.
>whats worse, democrats dont think the laws apply to them, obviously it's worse because the law applies to everyone except obama because he's the savior of man kind
Where did I take up for Obama? I was simply pointing out that both parties are shit and think the laws don't apply to them. Republicans aren't saints.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9071284 - 10/13/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Our vote doesn't mean shit anyway.
There hasn't been voter fraud yet, since these people haven't voted. How are these fake people going to vote when they won't have I.D.
In ohio a utility bill is enough.
The state even posts some utility bill examples on their website for you to photoshop.
And a web search reveals many utility bills.
Its very easy to get ID for some elections that require such.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: johnm214]
#9071305 - 10/13/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well Ohio should be smart and require a state or federal photo ID like Indiana does. All states should require this.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9071454 - 10/13/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Why did time expire Pris?? It was because of cuntface.
I'd have to side for the democrats no and say it's because the SCOTUS is republican as well and they're just shills for bush
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So basically your saying that even if someone cheats and it's found out it's ok because they didn't get it straightened out in time?
you mean like ACORN, well fortunately they were found out long before election day so we dont have to worry about it, unfortunately this cheating by Obamas gang of 'community activists' isnt enough to disqualify him from the race, if it were a real race and not just another way of mocking the american people both would have been disqualified long ago for unsportsman like conduct
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The time clause should have been put on hold for extenuating circumstances like that.
*florida should have been exterminated along with gore
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>whats worse, democrats dont think the laws apply to them, obviously it's worse because the law applies to everyone except obama because he's the savior of man kind
Where did I take up for Obama? I was simply pointing out that both parties are shit and think the laws don't apply to them. Republicans aren't saints.
dont go taking me serious, I'm trying to be like jesus and make trouble for people that take politics seriously
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9071462 - 10/13/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Yossarian22]
#9071494 - 10/13/08 03:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yossarian22 said: Actually, they suspended those quotas in August due to criticism.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: saved by zero]
#9072442 - 10/13/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I find it incredible that there are still idiots who think Bush didn't actually win Florida in 2000. Even after the count was stopped (after several recounts hand counts cock counts) they counted over and over again and he still won. He fucking won Florida. Get over it morons. Gore was a dick for challenging it. For the short of memory, Gore wanted to restrict the recount to only areas he thought he should have won by more. He wanted to toss absentee votes and not recount in Bush strongholds. Get over it morons. Gore lost. Gore lost. Gore lost. Gore lost. Gore lost. He wasn't handed the election by the Supreme Court. He. Lost.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9072444 - 10/13/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did I mention that Gore lost? And then lost his fucking mind in a desperate reach for relevance? A fatter Jimmy Carter.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9072549 - 10/13/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reagan was a whore
Reaganomics isn't a word
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Phred]
#9072600 - 10/13/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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What about McCains involvement in ACORN, never mentioned a single thing about that Phred, but thats alright its a typical from your posts lately.
http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm
Miami, Florida – February 20, 2006 ― Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform.
The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27
The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9072635 - 10/13/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are quite right. That McCain is just exactly like Barry in sucking ACORN choad.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9072640 - 10/13/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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His involvement doesnt mean dick, Thats my major point, Why on earth do we listen to partisan shills argue about non-issues when serious things are going on in the world. Its the most intellectually dishonest way of campaining, and frankly im sick of the vitriol and bullshit coming from both left and right.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9072645 - 10/13/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You are quite right. That McCain is just exactly like Barry in sucking ACORN choad.
Sucking mexican immigrant dick is what he's doing, its what the politicians in this country have been doing for some time now, strange how the concept is so foreign to you now your a cheerleader.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9072651 - 10/13/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Obama, in case you were unaware, has announced that ACORN will be consulted by his administration in regard to housing issues. Pay better attention and you will not be so confused all the time.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#9072674 - 10/13/08 07:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You are quite right. That McCain is just exactly like Barry in sucking ACORN choad.
Sucking mexican immigrant dick is what he's doing, its what the politicians in this country have been doing for some time now, strange how the concept is so foreign to you now your a cheerleader.
Aside from the fact that this thread is about the strong arm extortionist group ACORN, I will state quite clearly that McCain and I do not agree on illegal immigration. Sadly, Barry the hump offers nothing better. You had a point, Eberhard?
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: lonestar2004]
#9072679 - 10/13/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you really that unaware of survey methodology? The next time you see a poll, look at the methodology and you'll be able to answer any of the questions about how respondents were chosen and what questions they were asked.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Redstorm]
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Rasmussen Reports collects data for its survey research using an automated polling methodology.
Generally speaking, the automated survey process is identical to that of traditional, operator-assisted research firms such as Gallup, Harris, and Roper. However, automated polling systems use a single, digitally-recorded, voice to conduct the interview while traditional firms rely on phone banks, boiler rooms, and operator-assisted technology.
For tracking surveys such as the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll or the Rasmussen Consumer Index, the automated technology insures that every respondent hears exactly the same question, from the exact same voice, asked with the exact same inflection every single time.
All Rasmussen Reports' survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that insures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.
After the calls are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to insure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.
For surveys of all adults, the population targets are determined by census bureau data.
For political surveys, census bureau data provides a starting point and a series of screening questions are used to determine likely voters. The questions involve voting history, interest in the current campaign, and likely voting intentions.
Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area.
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Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 1,000 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error—for the full sample of 3,000 Likely Voters--is +/- 2 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis and crosstabs for the full-week results are available for Premium Members.
Like all polling firms, Rasmussen Reports weights its data to reflect the population at large (see methodology). Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. During the final two months of Election 2008, party weighting targets are updated each Sunday (see additional information). For polling data released during the week of October 12-18, 2008, the partisan weighting targets used by Rasmussen Reports will be 39.3% Democratic, 33.0% Republican, and 27.7% unaffiliated.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Redstorm]
#9072700 - 10/13/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why is yet another perfectly good thread being derailed into a poll/cock measuring wankfest? Take that stupid shit to the thread hell in which it belongs. Thank you.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9072706 - 10/13/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You are quite right. That McCain is just exactly like Barry in sucking ACORN choad.
Sucking mexican immigrant dick is what he's doing, its what the politicians in this country have been doing for some time now, strange how the concept is so foreign to you now your a cheerleader.
Aside from the fact that this thread is about the strong arm extortionist group ACORN, I will state quite clearly that McCain and I do not agree on illegal immigration. Sadly, Barry the hump offers nothing better. You had a point, Eberhard?
I agree with you, 100%.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: zappaisgod]
#9072735 - 10/13/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone is going to bring up nonsense, I am going to address it. I don't care what the topic is.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Redstorm]
#9072784 - 10/13/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.
So old men who live on farms are the people most likely to answer their phone? Thank god for the weighting process.
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Ferris]
#9075531 - 10/14/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ferris said: So old men who live on farms are the people most likely to answer their phone?
phones are evil... Tools of the devil
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Re: Obama campaign busily covering tracks to ACORN [Re: Redstorm]
#9075599 - 10/14/08 11:25 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: If someone is going to bring up nonsense, I am going to address it. I don't care what the topic is.
"Rasmussen Reports determines its partisan weighting targets through a Dynamic weighting system that takes into account the state’s voting history, national trends, and recent polling in a particular state or geographic area."
yeah that answered it...You're so fucking smart Red....
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