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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Rono]
    #663683 - 06/05/02 06:35 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I may have the specifics a little off......but last night I heard on IPR (international public radio) that a United States Air Force officer has been suspended for writing a critical editoral about Bush and his failure to respond to the attacks.

Seems this Air Force officer felt that our jets could have been scrambled into action possibly saving 1000's of lives.

It is pretty significant when one of their own is splitting ranks and speaking up. This man was very brave to write that editorial.

If I can find it, I'll post it.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: PGF]
    #665817 - 06/06/02 10:54 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: PGF]
    #665939 - 06/06/02 12:06 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I really don't remember the specifics, so this is kind of useless, but the guy who used to be in charge of such things said that if he were in charge on Sept. 11, things would have been very different. He said jets could have easily been scrambled on time, and other shit like that... Damnit, I wish I could remember where I heard/read this... I think it was soon after the events, and I think I saw him on the news, but I can't be sure. I think it might be the same thing you're talking about... Fuck.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Rono]
    #666060 - 06/06/02 01:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Give me a link to this Mike Vreeland story. Toronoto Star ? This Toronoto Star http://www.torontostar.com ? Where is the story upon their website? I cannot seem to find it even after searching. I could have missed it. Perhaps you can supply me with a direct link so I can see for myself.
My geuss without even reading it is the guy is a wacko like you and the story belongs in a tabloid table trash magazine.

I'll tell you..that little poster of Bush you posted needs to be shinned up real nice ...and shoved up your candy liberal ass . It makes no sense citing past U.S. WARS. So now wars are terrorism to you ?

By the way thanks for having the other thread closed and poluting the board with yet more of your B.S. liberal pablem.



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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Rono]
    #666075 - 06/06/02 01:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

In the latest FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll, slightly more blame the FBI than the CIA (13 to 9 percent), and a generous 13 percent say no one is to blame for failure to prevent the attacks. Only a handful of Americans place the fault directly on President George Bush (6 percent); in fact, twice as many blame former President Clinton (12 percent).


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #666354 - 06/06/02 05:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Well, there you have it. We can all go home now.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: hongomon]
    #666503 - 06/06/02 07:17 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Here's another interesting tidbit. An anonymous Republican senator is blocking senate legislation to reform the FBI. See the story at this address:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/06/07/fbi/index.html

People suspect that this is some kind of "payback" for the Democrats shooting down Bush judicial nominee Charles Pickering. Well, I suppose this kind of partisanship is par for the course among the bottom feeders on Capitol Hill, but if this is "partisanship" that must mean that Democrats favor improving the FBI's capacity to save American lives, and that Republicans, for some mysterious reason, oppose it.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #666512 - 06/06/02 07:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

RE: "However, they were both operating under Clinton era rules"...


Thats a good one... Keep blaming Clinton.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #666522 - 06/06/02 07:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

RE: "Hey dickless..."


Lets try not to flame each other for there views, 'kay?

Thanks.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Jammer]
    #666602 - 06/06/02 08:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"Thats a good one... Keep blaming Clinton. "

Why not? Slick Willy was one of the most worthless American presidents in history...maybe with the exception of Carter. He didn't do much of anything back when we had the chance to stop Osamamama...but really government is not to blaim. Want to know who I blame? I blame Islamic terrorists and Osama Bin Laden. They are the ones to truly blame. Without them this would not have happened(.)
Conspiracy NUTS pop up after nearly every major historical event to blurt and spout nonsense to each other...trying to make their lives more interesting..attempting to make everything a fucking soap opera. Ummm..GET A LIFE YOU WACKOS!



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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Jammer]
    #666604 - 06/06/02 08:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"Lets try not to flame each other for there views, 'kay?"

Does the same go for people you agree with? Just wondering...



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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Great_Cthulhu]
    #666664 - 06/06/02 08:56 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

RE: "Slick Willy was one of the most worthless American presidents in history"

I wrote a loooong reply to this.... but I'm not going to post such obvious history. (READ)

(try a search engine on the news)

Search for "HEAD"
(does Clinton's sex life matter to most then nor now?)


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Great_Cthulhu]
    #666670 - 06/06/02 08:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

RE: "Does the same go for people you agree with? Just wondering... "


Yes it does.. I will allways be as fair as I can here. (it's the personal name calling that I am refering too)


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Jammer]
    #666959 - 06/07/02 06:31 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I just went to the lecture last night with Mike Ruppert (those who have been following my posts know who he is) and all I can say is..Holy Fuck! There is so much shit going on it's fuckin scary. I managed to record the first 1 1/2 hour of the lecture and will make a link to it soon, but I missed the 2nd half of the lecture...sorry. My mind is still reeling from all the info that was dumped on me...to the point I couldn't sleep last night. I will try to post a coherent report later...but let's just say the evidence that Bush and Co. are involved in some seriously shady dealings is irrefutable and solid. And it's worse than many of you think...


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Jammer]
    #666972 - 06/07/02 06:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Jammer, I saw your post on the Off Topic forum a while back inviting posters over here, and I thought, That's pretty cool. Just wanted to mention that.

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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Rono]
    #666978 - 06/07/02 06:52 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

If anyone here thinks that 9/11 wouldn't have happened with Al Gore in office (or Bill Clinton, if he would have been allowed three terms) you have a very feeble grasp on reality.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: ]
    #666983 - 06/07/02 06:55 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

If Clinton were president, terrorism would have been abolished by now.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #667126 - 06/07/02 08:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

LOL, why would he have sent Ambassador Lewinsky to give Osama a blow job and make him a happy fellow? Would he have brought back to life the people he killed when he bombed the Aspirin factory? Would he have rebuilt the factory and apologized? What would he have done about the USS Cole?


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: ]
    #667150 - 06/07/02 08:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Putting the blame on one president or politcal party isn't going to work...they are ALL corrupt, make no mistake about it. Corporations run the world, not politicians...If you follow the money trail, you'll see.

Ever wonder why the news in the U.S. seems to be missing alot of things the rest of the world knows? Allow me to tell you...Because they are ALL owned by big business, who in turn are in bed with whoever is running the country at the time...and the last thing they need is to have the people wake up and see what REALLY is going on.


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Re: The Bush 9/11 Scandal for Dummies [Re: Rono]
    #667211 - 06/07/02 09:38 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Rono wrote:
"Putting the blame on one president or political party isn't going to work...they are ALL corrupt, make no mistake about it.
I agree with you 100% on this point.

"Corporations run the world, not politicians...If you follow the money trail, you'll see."
If you follow the money trail, it goes right to the pockets of politicians. They have the power that attracts those businessmen who are unscrupulous and find it easier to buy political favors than to freely compete in the marketplace. If you didn't have politicians willing to grab power and sell it, corporations wouldn't be able to buy it. Additionally, by grabbing more and more power for themselves and trying to control businesses more and more, politicians have created a situation where businesses are forced to pay tribute to them so they will not be legislated out of business.

Yes, there have been, there are, and there always will be some people in business who have no morals and will do anything they can get away with to get more money or control. However this should not be used an an excuse to blame all corporations or businesses. The problem is systemic, it involves business interests, religious interests, bureaucratic interests and nationalistic interests all working through the political system and converging to create the current morass we find ourselves in.

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