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Eggshell Walker

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Etheralised cosmic-astral influences...
    #884294 - 09/15/02 08:39 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Green Party co-leader Jeanette Fitzsimons is the winner of this year's New Zealand Skeptics bent spoon award.

She won the "prize" for her support of "etheralised cosmic-astral influences" as a means getting rid of possums, said Skeptics head Vicki Hyde.

The annual award spotlights the dangers of gullibility or a lack of critical thought.

"In an area as vital to New Zealand's ecological preservation as pest control, it is imperative to ensure that publicly funded control techniques are demonstrably effective," Ms Hyde said.

"That's why it was so disappointing to see support from the Greens for biodynamic possum peppering as a valid approach to this problem.

"Our environment needs champions who can separate wishful thinking from reality - if we could wish possums out of this country, they'd be gone overnight!"

In the peppering technique, unwanted organism's bodies are burnt at a certain time in the lunar cycle. The ashy remains are then watered down to produce a spray said to repel, some claim sterilise, the pest concerned.

The dilution is to the point where no actual substance remains other than water, which is where the "vital life-force" and "planetary influences" of biodynamics' "spiritual science" are said to take over.

Ms Hyde said she was even more disappointed to find out later that Ms Fitzsimons knew of the scientific testing possum peppering had undergone 10 years ago.

The tests had clearly demonstrated that biodynamic claims of being able to provide a potent repellent were false.

Ms Hyde said the Skeptics supported the examination of such proposals in case there is some undiscovered, effective strategy that has not been identified, but "peppering has already been closely examined and found wanting".

Hyde is concerned that 10 years on, peppering is still being proposed as a means of pest control, in Auckland with regard to painted apple moth, and with the Green support for its use against possums.

The Skeptics conference, which opens in Christchurch tomorrow, includes a presentation on the biosecurity hazards associated with this form of alternative pest control for Auckland's painted apple moth problem.

The conference also sees the presentation of the society's Bravo Awards, honouring intelligent reporting and critical thinking.


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Be excellent toeach other

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Re: Etheralised cosmic-astral influences... [Re: Swami]
    #884328 - 09/15/02 08:58 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

sometimes you just cant teach people nutten!! wait a minute......I have a sneaky suspicion you might say the same about those who believe in God.......in that case I retract. She was very wise in her decisions!!!! :grin: 

An open mind is the greatest journey of all.

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Slow Learner

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Re: Etheralised cosmic-astral influences... [Re: Swami]
    #887264 - 09/17/02 03:21 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah yeah...I voted for them and they still make me cringe. But they've got an audience to pander to, just like any other political party, and that audience is predominately hippie/stoner/earth-mother types. It's a shame that legitimate ecological concerns are so marginalised that they attract such a dubious, dogmatic crowd, but atleast the Green's will keep the various environmental indignities in the headlines...

And besides...Nandor's hemp-fibre suit is slick...worth getting them into parliament just for that, don't ya think? :grin:


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