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Creation & Evolution
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Creationism will always distance itself from Evolutionism, and vise versa, they are inherently symbiotic, in other words both theories are hosts to one another, although  both seem to be the antithesis of one another, although, both theories together with their dogma are required to form a rational theory of our existence and  subsequent consciousness.

Creationist will say evolution is impossible without some intelligent design, and evolutionist say that we have evolved intelligently, and creation had nothing to with it. There in lies the irony, I feel that in order to rationalize both theories we could say: did the creator kick start evolution, which seems logical and simple to me and probably worth some intelligent debate.


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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Creationism would only make sense if God had kick-started evolution (which is necessary for species' survival so it's an important feature, thanks God :super:), but why God would go out of its way to confuse us is beyond me.
It goes to the courtesy of explaining to us, through the Christian Bible, that it created the Universe, but left out the part about it hurtling us, and the rest of the mass we can see, through space at enormous velocities.
Why go to so much trouble to manage the unimaginable depths in space when God is clearly very busy trying to manage humans?
If humans made contact with an extra-terrestrial form of life one day, would the Church claim they were an apparition of the Devil to test our faith? :lol:

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Cameron]
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Creationist will say evolution is impossible without some intelligent design, and evolutionist say that we have evolved intelligently, and creation had nothing to with it. There in lies the irony,


The heck? I see no irony, just a very confused post.


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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The only people that are concerned and make all the hub bub about this "question" are creationists.

"evolutionists" don't give a shit.  Last time I saw someone picketing for evolution was.... umm... oh, I've never seen someone picketing for that.  For Christ, the bible and creationism, I don't think I've gone a school day without seeing someone holding something talking about these "immense" issues.

Whether you believe your updated biology book or your bible, who cares.  Why not read them both and make a decision for yourself.


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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did the creator kick start evolution, which seems logical and simple to me and probably worth some intelligent debate.

Hard to debate without evidence.:crazy2:

I see the evidence for evolution but not for a conscious creator. :shrug:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Icelander]
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As long as there's a disagreement, each of these positions have an equal chance of being right. Therefore, why care?

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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gc1966 said:
Creationism will always distance itself from Evolutionism, and vise versa, they are inherently symbiotic, in other words both theories are hosts to one another, although  both seem to be the antithesis of one another, although, both theories together with their dogma are required to form a rational theory of our existence and  subsequent consciousness.

Creationist will say evolution is impossible without some intelligent design, and evolutionist say that we have evolved intelligently, and creation had nothing to with it. There in lies the irony, I feel that in order to rationalize both theories we could say: did the creator kick start evolution, which seems logical and simple to me and probably worth some intelligent debate.


I feel you. :mushroom2:


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Boots]
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Boots said:
As long as there's a disagreement, each of these positions have an equal chance of being right. Therefore, why care?


Where is your evidence for this opinion.

If I say that a blue eyed worm created the world does that get equal billing with things that there is actually evidence for?

This is a debate forum. You could say why care about any subject here.:tongue:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (06/23/08 08:16 PM)

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Boots said:
As long as there's a disagreement, each of these positions have an equal chance of being right. Therefore, why care?


Where is your evidence for this opinion.

If I say that a blue eyed worm created the world does that get equal billing with things that there is actually evidence for?

This is a debate forum. You could say why care about any subject here.:tongue:


Having a chance of being right before evidence is maybe what I meant to say. But Validity and the chance that something has to be right are two different things.

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Boots]
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You mean my little worm could be right?:thumbup: I knew it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: zouden]
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Your right, may this be a lesson for all us psilopsychonauts. Trying to focus in on the keyboard, and control the cursor is difficult enough, never mind attempting to articulate the esoteric questions, while under the influence of a heroic dose of psilocybin.:thumbup:


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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i was actually just thinking about this



im pretty sure the creationist theory supports the religious belief that man and animal are separate and man has a system of morals that separates us from the animals who dont exhibit these

its that desperate urge to feel special


but all things on earth are special

if they only knew

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: sirbojangles]
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im pretty sure the creationist theory


However, Creationism does not qualify as a theory in the academic usage of the word.


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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im pretty sure the creationist theory


However, Creationism does not qualify as a theory in the academic usage of the word.


:thumbup:
If its impossible to disprove its not a theory, its a belief.


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: blewmeanie]
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Take it a step further even... it its impossible to disprove it cant even be a hypothesis, let alone a theory.

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: DieCommie]
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I hypothesize that you are correct, but I may be wrong.:grin:


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: DieCommie]
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Yes, one cannot employ the scientific method to assess non-falsifiable claims.

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Veritas]
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Which includes creationism and atheism, but not evolution.

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: DieCommie]
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.....(cough) a-theism...non belief....nothing to be proven or disproven (cough):hypnotoad:


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: blewmeanie]
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I hate "isms",their fucked up, like all beliefs, just believe in shrooms, experience is truth.


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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: gc1966]
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whoa, lotta hate there.

while I wouldn't take that funky fungi to be the "cure" for anything, I think it can definately be a tool to redirect one's line of thoughts.


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Creation & Evolution [Re: Cracka_X]
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Cracka_X said:
whoa, lotta hate there.

while I wouldn't take that funky fungi to be the "cure" for anything, I think it can definately be a tool to redirect one's line of thoughts.


I think some dude would be like...  'And if you don't believe my word...  Eat that, sir...  And have that conversation for your SELF.':cheers:


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