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Reverse Osmosis Water
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Quick question: Is drinking water purified with a reverse osmosis system a good idea - will it negatively impact health due to lack of trace minerals and such?


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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: fireworks_god]
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Reason I ask: Going to get a reverse osmosis system for a different reason. We won't drink city tap water, and probably spend a few dollars drinking about a gallon of bottled water every day (contains minerals, 1.2mg/l of sodium, 15.5 mg/l o calcium, etc.). If we drank the water from the reverse osmosis system, the cost of the system would pay for itself in about three months.

Does the water taste good and would the lack of trace minerals be overly detrimental, or could they be supplemented in other ways?


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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: fireworks_god]
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the water tastes good. I use one. As far as minerals and such, I dont know if they have them in there. But there must be minereals in it because it dosn't taste like distilled water.

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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: Galvie_Flu]
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there are NO minerals, with a properly functioning system your water should be completely devoid of all organic and mineral particles.

also there is this:

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The reverse osmosis process contains several downsides which make it an inefficient and ineffective means of purifying drinking water. The small pores in the membrane block particles of large molecular structure like salt, but more dangerous chemicals like pesticides, herbicides, and chlorine are molecularly smaller than water (Binnie et al, 2002). These chemicals can freely pass through the porous membrane. For this reason, a carbon filter must be used as a complimentary measure to provide safe drinking water from the reverse osmosis process. Such chemicals are the major contaminants of drinking water after municipal treatment.




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Another downside to reverse osmosis as a method of purifying drinking water is the removal of healthy, naturally occurring minerals in water. The membrane of a reverse osmosis system is impermeable to natural trace minerals. These minerals not only provide a good taste to water, but they also serve a vital function in the body’s system. Water, when stripped of these trace minerals, can actually be unhealthy for the body.

Reverse osmosis also wastes a large portion of the water that runs through its system. It generally wastes two to three gallons of water for every gallon of purified water it produces. Reverse osmosis is also an incredibly slow process when compared to other water treatment alternatives.





look into filtered and then OZONATED water fireworks god. google "ozone water systems"


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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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do you have a source for that binnie et all assertion?

I doubt there's any dangerous pesticide that is smaller than water.

Perhpas the pesticide can simply migrate throught the membrane rather than through the pores.

I also don't see how a membrane would block metals, or minerals or whatever you wanna call em, but not water. Kinda weird.


also, there's no way chlorine is smaller than water

I know that's just a quote, just observing some things.

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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: johnm214]
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this is the link i got that statement from.

http://www.historyofwaterfilters.com/ro-distillation.html


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Volatile gases such as oxygen and hydrogen sulfide will pass through reverse osmosis membranes. Some organic substances with low molecular weight can also pass through the membrane. Some of these organic substances are suspected of being cancer causing; fortunately these substances are rarely found in Alberta water. The activated carbon filters used in most reverse osmosis units can remove most organic substances anyway. Bacteria can also "grow through" reverse osmosis membranes leading to possible bacterial growth in the postfilter and water storage tank.



that quote can be found here:

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex5432


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Interestingly, reverse-osmosis membranes aren’t all capable of removing the same-size particulates. In fact, the pores (tiny openings) in various R/O membranes are rated as to the largest matter that can pass through them. For example, a typical membrane used in residential units might have a rating of 0.01 microns. Although water molecules under pressure are able to pass through these minute openings, the holes are just too small to let solids over 0.01 microns pass through. (In reality, a membrane will not have all pores of the same size. The pores in a membrane with a rating of 0.01 microns might range from 0.001 up to 0.01 microns.) When water passes through an R/O membrane, a great deal of the dissolved minerals, heavy metals, asbestos, dirt particles, radioactive particles, fluoride and bacteria will be left behind. R/O units can be so capable that they’re usually able to remove an estimated 80-95% of all dissolved solids from the water they treat.



and this one here:

http://www.healthyhouseinstitute.com/a_665-Reverse_Osmosis_Water_Filters

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R.O. is a process that exposes water under pressure to a semi-permeable membrane with a very fine pore structure. The membrane acts as a barrier and will physically block extremely small particles, down to 0.009 microns in size. The idea is that anything larger than a water molecule will be blocked and washed away. R.O. filters also require the use of carbon pre and post filters to remove free chlorine from the input (pre-filter) and taste, odor, and many synthetic chemicals like herbicides and pesticides, that are smaller than a water molecule, from the output (post filter).




and this one:

http://www.aquaprosolutions.com/index_files/AquaPro_water_facts.htm



thats all i could come up with on this subject, i couldnt find any sources for the binnie et al.  :shrug:


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Re: Reverse Osmosis Water [Re: LeftyBurnz]
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leftysurprise said:
thats all i could come up with on this subject, i couldnt find any sources for the binnie et al.  :shrug:



on the page that got that quote the cite this for the binnie thing:


Binnie, Chris, Kimber, Martin, & Smethurst, George. (2002). Basic water treatment (3rd ed.). London: Thomas Telford Ltd.

So they claim somehwhere in the 300 pages that they back up their claim, oh well.

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