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liberty caps?
    #826992 - 08/18/02 11:13 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

A friend found these in Tassie but I was unsure about the spliting cap - look like liberty caps??


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #827093 - 08/19/02 12:29 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

The one on the left looks like it has a similar cap. I thought they had white stems though. Take a spore print, let us know. Also, where were they found? What habitat?


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #827159 - 08/19/02 01:46 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry but those are not liberty caps m the stems are too dark. They should be straw yellownot the colour in your images and the caps are too thick.

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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #827864 - 08/19/02 09:42 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: liberty caps? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #831694 - 08/20/02 10:35 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

ill let the guy know - i thought they were, but i havent seen a spore-print from his find yet. From pics in stamets they just looked similar. thanks everyone!


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #831725 - 08/20/02 11:08 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Also the shape of the cap is all wrong.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: drow]
    #831736 - 08/20/02 11:18 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

really? Maybe because of the inturned margin? Otherwise they had me fooled - we dont get those very often in Australia and ive never seen a confirmed fresh specimen before so all your input is greatly appreciated.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #835449 - 08/22/02 07:37 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

They look like a species of "Panaeolus". I am 90% sure that they are. 10% could mean death or illness. I am picking the same kind at my spot and if they are the species i am almost certain of they are Hallucinogenic.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #835838 - 08/22/02 11:05 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

bm, mj's right they are too thick-fleshed. did you see them while they wher still moist? if so was the coloration diferent?

shroom666, to wich panaeolus species are you refering?


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: canid]
    #836483 - 08/22/02 03:44 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck knows what type but i have been recently picking ones which have an uncanny resembleance.
(dip do do dip)


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: shroom666]
    #837144 - 08/22/02 10:19 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

They arent psychoactive pans or Copelandias because they didnt stain blue. All ive seen of these are this photo from a contact in Tasmania. Thanx for your help guys - ill pass the info on!


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #837393 - 08/23/02 04:13 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Dude many active pans do not stain blue. The ones which i am picking at the moment do not. Still real trippy.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: shroom666]
    #838776 - 08/23/02 04:41 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

no way! Every Copelandia I am aware of contains psilocin and related alkaloids - they all stain blue if their active. Generally it is only grass related psilocybes such as Semilanceata and allies that do not stain blue due to their high psilocybin/baeocystin content and low or nil psilocin content.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #838803 - 08/23/02 04:53 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I was refering to subs. Also other active pans which DO NOT stain blue. Liberty caps always stain blue man.
At the moment i am pickin an unknown type of pan which does not stain blue, it is very fuckin trippy though.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: shroom666]
    #838846 - 08/23/02 05:14 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry your right about pan subs, but as they are so weakly active, i didnt consider them - if you have an unknown pan why not get some specimens identified by a mycologist??


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: shroom666]
    #838848 - 08/23/02 05:16 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

>Liberty caps always stain blue man.

Wrong again, they don't always stain blue
The mushrooms in the picture are also most likely not pans, the caps look wrong.

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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Gumby]
    #838884 - 08/23/02 05:34 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I should have said all the 1000s upon 1000s i have found always have staind blue.
I do not know any cool mycologist dudes and -1digital camera, i`m fucked on getting an id, damn trippy whatever they maybe


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: shroom666]
    #839170 - 08/23/02 07:09 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

shroom666, if you have access to a scanner you can use it to make some pics., they won't be great but it works in a pinch.
As far as the semis, many of the specimens i find show little or no bluing, but i take great care with them to preserve potency when drying.
Anyway, if you like i can try to help you identify the pans you are finding.

good luck, concretefeet.


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: canid]
    #839626 - 08/24/02 01:44 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Let me reiterate - i doubt it very much that the specimens that you are finding that stain blue are Ps.Semilanceata - i know for a fact that they 'RARELY' if ever stain blue and if they do it is not significant. Are you sure about the mushroom in question 666?


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Re: liberty caps? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #839650 - 08/24/02 02:10 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I know my libbys a mile off. Little or heavy bluing always occured with my picks.
No access to scan, pretty shit heh?
Hope to invest in scan or cam


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