Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineCannashroom
Smoke two Joints
Male User Gallery

Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 2,141
Loc: Everywhere
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond
    #8203414 - 03/27/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

From the thread DMT is more than a drug, there was a link about the Holographic Universe. This Idea that the Universe is like a hologram; all parts represent the whole and are interconnected. In a real holographic picture, when light is shined onto it a 3-D image appears, if you cut it into any number of pieces each piece can project the whole picture. Much like our cells, only a tiny portion of our body, but they contain the information for the entire body as well.

In an experiment done, two particles split and brought 14 miles apart would exhibit communication faster than the speed of light. When one was touched, the other would instantly respond as well. This lead these scientist to believe that the separation of the atoms is no more than a delusion of ours in our universe, which according to these people is really a hologram, and everything we see is really a projection from 2-D. These are all just theories, and I am explaining them poorly and briefly, just google the holographic universe or principal to find a better description.

One conclusion of this is that all matter, every particle is connected to everything else; a theme present a lot in the psychedelic community. This leads to the next part, Dark Energy, or the Divine Matrix as Gregg Braden puts it. This is energy present everywhere in the universe, it is the reason the universe is accelerating in its expansion, some say it is the creator of all matter as it exists everywhere. Interestingly, Max Planck proposed this 'force' everywhere that let everything exist, he called it a matrix, this was in the 40s, long before Dark energy was shown to exist in the 1990s.

Gregg Braden calls this energy the Divine Matrix, which us as humans can communicate through emotions as he says. He, along with others, claim it is an intelligent field, maybe a god if you will, and that its consciousness comes from our own consciousnesses. He says that through this field of energy existing everywhere we connect to each other, the human race transcends together through the powers of consciousness. You can youtube this for more information, but this is also something people talk about from trips, this field of energy everywhere. Gregg gained a lot of his knowledge through studying ancient texts.

WHERE AM I GOING?! you ask, well bare with me. The human mind is said to be holographic as in that it stores information throughout the whole, not just in one place. Stanislav Grof has proposed that psychedelics lend a sort of gateway into to this holographic realm. What is a hologram again? Well one good definition is a pattern, whole and complete, but within it another pattern whole and complete, and it as well part of an even larger patter, whole and complete. This leads us to Fractals. Fractals could be considered holographic in this manner as they have an infinite repeating pattern, everywhere in this same manner.

SO, do psychedelics really reveal to us the holographic nature of the universe and reality, is DMT letting us see the other dimensions of the universe that are not in our hologram (I want to explore this hypothesis soon, with my first DMT breakthrough). Is our species amazing abilities due to our ancestor's use of psychedelics? Did these substances let us gain knowledge of the energy matrix and the universe's reality? Is this principal of the universe and infinitely penetrating energy the key to higher levels of evolution and consciousness? Gregg Braden believes that by changing our emotions we can influence the field for our better. All of these topics are so diverse and complicated I am trying my best to explain my plethora of ideas.

Some final thoughts--in a holographic universe, everything we see is an illusion, and we do not live in 'this' world but are just receivers projected into a dimension through this holographic principal. Ancient teachings say quite similar things, for example eastern schools of through have maintained that all of the world is Maya, an illusion. Shamans of the amazon believe that we are just receivers and our souls live in the sun(Quantum Physicists and Shamans Agree?) These are all just ideas that came to me in the last few days, they are in their infancy and I'm sorry for any incoherency or poor language I shall edit later. These are all just ideas open for criticism and debate, in final:

We Are All One!

Discuss!


--------------------
"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

Albert Einstein


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOneMoreRobot3021
Male


Registered: 06/06/03
Posts: 61,024
Loc: the sky
Re: Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond [Re: Cannashroom]
    #8203432 - 03/27/08 08:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

All i can say for the moment is that I really enjoyed your post and I'm off to read about holographic theory.


--------------------
Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePilzeEssen


Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 7,312
Loc: USA
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8203475 - 03/27/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

the holographic universe by michael talbot

good read.


--------------------
"The soul has greater need of the ideal than of the real. It is by the real that we exist, it is by the ideal that we live."

If you want to get a hold of me, my email address is in my profile. Just click on my screen name. I got banned from using private messages cause I didn't follow the rules... :frown:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehalo
Tripper
Male


Registered: 11/01/07
Posts: 1,169
Last seen: 2 months, 27 days
Re: Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8203685 - 03/27/08 09:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've read a little about holographic theory of the universe and I find it fascinating. And to me it makes perfect sense in a way but I can't really describe it.


--------------------
All drugs should be legal


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineflangenips
Batshitinsanse
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/20/08
Posts: 1,520
Loc: aotearoa Flag
Last seen: 8 years, 5 months
Re: Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond [Re: halo]
    #8203819 - 03/27/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Its fascinating
this is sorta related, entanglement.
&feature=related

and also look at superposition for interest sake.

essentiall nothing ever touches yet everything seems very connected in other ways. There is alot of space, on the massive level, and on the subatomic level. so much emptiness and even simplicity further down the rabbit hole, yet at the same time with all that space, matter does not seem act as if it is necessary apart.

Psychedelic/hallucinogenix experience often makes us hash alot of shit together, are we imagining this on our own, or is there some sort of strange matter-channeling going on making us hone in of the often bizarre things that manifest.

anywho i'm off to read up on holographic theory, because it is new to me. hopefully ill learn some cool stuff. :laugh:


--------------------
All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. - Ambrose Bierce


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineflangenips
Batshitinsanse
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/20/08
Posts: 1,520
Loc: aotearoa Flag
Last seen: 8 years, 5 months
Re: Holographic principal ,the psychedelic experience and beyond [Re: flangenips]
    #8204151 - 03/27/08 10:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Ill add after reading on holographic principle, that i have heard of this idea, just not called that.

Much of what is on the suface may teach us what is further down the rabbit hole. I've heard some musings (i wish i remembered where or at least had a link) that even in our brains that a single nerve cells may even contain memory of everything. This is no new thing of course, similar ideas can be found in literature and even a few japanese cartoons i've seem (namely akira).
It's as if the entire universe is a living, breathing organism itself that we cannot comprehend the biomechanics of.

Just like when i'm buzzing out on mesc and see rivers of organic material transform into a kaleidoscope of eyes that transforms into a creature which transforms into a neon sign... i watch and do not understand the connections at all, let alone the manisfestations themselves.


--------------------
All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. - Ambrose Bierce


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Conscructing the Psychedelic Experience Kid 8,183 14 05/30/17 10:50 AM
by CactiLover
* The Psychedelic Experience and Enlightenment
( 1 2 3 all )
Kid 22,099 55 10/03/18 10:06 PM
by PrimalSoup
* The psychedelic experience DreaMaTrix 1,981 3 01/03/03 10:13 AM
by Anonymous
* My plans for my first psychedelic experience, need advice... ShroomNoob03 1,555 3 03/24/04 09:40 AM
by boeha
* Regressive self-therapy using psychedelics?
( 1 2 all )
ding 9,224 20 04/20/04 04:10 AM
by Arrakis
* I don't know psychedelics? johnnyfive 2,063 7 04/03/03 11:20 PM
by icewall
* Psychedelics and enlightenment
( 1 2 3 all )
LearyfanS 22,892 58 10/23/17 08:57 AM
by Ferdinando
* legal psychedelics?
( 1 2 3 all )
stonerreakinghavoc 6,280 47 01/12/17 07:57 AM
by cube talk

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: psilocybinjunkie, Rose, mushboy, LogicaL Chaos, Northerner, bodhisatta
963 topic views. 2 members, 66 guests and 15 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.025 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 14 queries.