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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: PowerTripp]
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PowerTripp said:
dont you people ever watch the science channel??


Wow. Yes, for-profit TEE-VEE. Great source. Notice how television news sensationalizes things? Now imagine the profit margin of the "Science Channel". Most likely a subsidiary of corporation X or whatever. Keep it on if it's losing money? No.

The History Channel is a fallen analogue.


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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said:
:stabbarney: 


:dielaughing: I love smileys.

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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
I am the same way lately.

I wear tie-dye and smoke a lot of pot, but I just cannot put up with these constant moronic prophecies of Earth-Death and environmental and political hysteria.


Stop resisting. :smirk:

If the end of the world is indeed coming, why wait until 2012, lets fuckin' end it all now.  Why wait?


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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: PowerTripp]
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Yo, mister faster than the speed of light = going back in time, with all due respect (I don't think you get any this time around) if you travel any faster than the speed of light, you become pure energy. It's called fucking Einstien, and no you don't go 1.5 minutes into the future on a plane, maybe, due to relativity, it seems like you go 1.00000000000000000000001 etc., into the future, but the world around you experiences time the same way, relative to there speed. It's fucking relativity, not time travel.

Don't go over your head when you can't even doggy paddle.

My post talks about a specific guy (don't remember his name), who is using lasers to spin space, and hence time since they are interwoven, like a hurricane. This in theory, will mimick the way a black hole distorts spacetime. The only drawback to this method is that he'll only be able to send sub-atomic partiles backward because he's spending close to a billion dollars to build this machine and it'll only distort a very small piece of space.

Now imagine that tiny space starting to spin, the swirls around it will grow in number as time goes on. The theory is to send a partcle along the spiral and it will be going back in time, but since the swirl has a definative end (the time that it started), that's as far back as we can send the particle.

Who Knows if it'll work, but there's a number of scientists backing this guy from major universtities and the government. You think this guy can afford this project without some kind of a grant?

This is were the best science as of today stands on time travel, it either can't happen, or we have to "wormhole" through spacetime (only good for traveling distances as well as time), or we can only go backwards to the time the mahine was made.

Go on, mister plane time travel man, refute that...


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: bradmassive]
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bradmassive said:
PowerTripp said:
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dill705 said:
so far our science says that if we were to make a time machne (someone already is) it could only take us backwards to the time the time machine was made.

Hence, we would not be in control of time...


Ok, as one travels closer and closer to the speed of light, they are actually traveling into the future. Ever hear of.. when your on a plane and you take off, your actually traveling into the future about 1.5 minutes. As you actually pass the speed of light, you then travel back in time.

People rely on mechanical devices too much to do thing for them, one day we will harness the power of the brain and we will be able to do things such as travel into time and through the universe just by brain power. Not much is possible with mechanical equipment yet, thats because all those things have mass and weight. As one travels closer and closer to the speed of light, it begins to weigh heavier and it takes more and more fuel to keep it moving faster.  That is why its impossible now but we have made mechanics with our brain power, why not travel through time and space where ever we want to go with our brain power also???


Brain matter has mass and weight too, thats why. :smirk:


I think he was referring not to the brain but consciousness itself.


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“The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”  -- Rudiger Dornbusch

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: PowerTripp]
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Reality as we normally perceive it is in a constant state of becoming. It isn't becoming anything. It is only an illusion that anything at all is happening, ever. 2012 is right here and now.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: dill705]
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My post talks about a specific guy (don't remember his name), who is using lasers to spin space,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Mallett


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“The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.”  -- Rudiger Dornbusch

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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: zorbman]
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Alright, nice link man :thumbup:


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: dill705]
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Science fiction is great.


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"I Love Democracy"
-Emporer Palpatine


Fuck the system.

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Re: 2012 end-time2 [Re: dill705]
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Ronald Mallett wrote a book, the name of which escapes me, that deals with the same subject.

Read it, fools.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: Madtowntripper]
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hedge bet here. itll be when consciousness shfits to the moment and forgets the past and cant think of the future because surviviing in the moment is all thatll matter. and then presumably someone who looks like jesus will show up and do some good deeds and then die or something and will be heralded as jesus coming back and that paradise must be on earth. and it was all metaphors lost to time.  itl prbly be something hilarious like that:yesnod:


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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: rubixcubies]
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:wink:

I'm here baby


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My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: Jack Albertson]
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havent you guys seen star trek. thats past the year 1012 and they arent all dead, it must not be true


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Word to your moms I came to drop bombs I gots more rhymes than the bibles got psalms

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: PowerTripp]
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PowerTripp said:also, anybody ever hear about the seven seals and the two prophets??


yes.  this is talked about in the book or Revelations in the Holy Bible.  i read up on it a bit after a bad trip where i thought i was in purgatory.

what do you know about this? :uptosomething:


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http://www.mushroomexpert.com/

http://www.textbookofbacteriology.net

http://bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/learning/resources/Mycology/index.html

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: LayYouIn]
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lol, i just listened to a radio interview today with one of the woman that originally translated that 2012 stuff. she says no the world will not end, thats not what the mayans said.


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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: PowerTripp]
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2012...


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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: hazey]
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http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021102b.htm


This article just as an example is one thing that makes me wonder, among many other.

At this point, I almost know something on 2012 will happen. It almost seems inevitable whether it be total armegedon(which I doubt), a major shift in conciousness, returning to more primitive life, religion and governments fail, the collapse of the world econnomy, or even a divine spiritual awakening. It seems that we are all ready and want change just have no idea how to go about it considering any real change would have to occur on a global scale. Anything is possible.

In my mind, too many people have predicted this for far too long. The mayans being most credible to me. Above all, I think this event(whatever that may be) will affect not only the physical earth, but all realms of conciousness.

Will life continue on earth? We could almost garauntee it would in some form or another. Will humans survive?....I think some of the smart and strong will. One thing I know will happen is we all continue our mysterious journey through the universe.

Edited by daytripper05 (03/12/08 07:23 AM)

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: daytripper05]
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I see 2012 as the end of an age. The end of the age of Pisces. The beginning of the age of Aquarius. Also kind of ties into the end of the catholic church/christianity as they were the beginning of an era. They have had their ~2000 years and now it is time for our next awakening, however that may be. Christianity is nothing more than paganism that denies it's roots. They follow the astrological calendar. They also have many holidays that fall into these categories.

Anyways, like I said... My belief is that it is nothing more than the end of an era. The end of the age of Pisces. The awakening of mankind is already happening and is growing. I do not think this age will go quietly as those who are in power will have no qualms with using anything in their arsenal to keep the status quo.


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Trying to explain a journey to someone who has never experienced it is like trying to explain what a zebra looks like to  blind person who has never seen a horse.

^^^The above matter may be a complete fantasy that I concocted out of possible boredom.^^^


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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: daytripper05]
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Just for kicks, I'm planning on doing a heavy dose of ayahuasca on Dec 21, 2012. I'm sure for a while it will seem as if a massive dimensional shift is underway.

Otherwise, if there is any signifigance aside from the astronomical, I suspect it may be more of an inflection point than a discontinuity.

Or, maybe aliens arrive/show themselves. Or, we reach technological singularity. Or dimensional shift occurs and we merge into a more unified consciousness in higher dimensions. Or, the hyperspace critters yank us away to their zoos all over the multiverse. Or . . . :laugh:

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Re: 2012 end-time [Re: daytripper05]
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daytripper05 said:
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021102b.htm


This article just as an example is one thing that makes me wonder, among many other.

At this point, I almost know something on 2012 will happen. It almost seems inevitable whether it be total armegedon(which I doubt), a major shift in conciousness, returning to more primitive life, religion and governments fail, the collapse of the world econnomy, or even a divine spiritual awakening. It seems that we are all ready and want change just have no idea how to go about it considering any real change would have to occur on a global scale. Anything is possible.

In my mind, too many people have predicted this for far too long. The mayans being most credible to me. Above all, I think this event(whatever that may be) will affect not only the physical earth, but all realms of conciousness.

Will life continue on earth? We could almost garauntee it would in some form or another. Will humans survive?....I think some of the smart and strong will. One thing I know will happen is we all continue our mysterious journey through the universe.

exactly


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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