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SirTokesALittle
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2012( urgent)
#6629479 - 03/02/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you know that the ancient Chinese, Mayan, Aztec, Native Americans, Romans and Trojans civilizations all have DOCUMENTED reason as to why 2012 will be the end of a 28,500 year cycle that this planet undergoes. A time where a cataclysmic event will cause great destruction.
According to MODERN scientists( and the history channel) this is also true. It is the time the earth enters and EXACT ALIGNMENT that occurs every 28,500 years with the sun and the PERFECT CENTER of the milky way galaxy. Experts have also discovered a large black hole within the galaxy around the approximate location of the earths position in December 2012. Experts say the earth will possibly tilt on it's axis and see a reversal of the magnetic field, where over the course of one or ten years, Alaska could shift to the equator.
I'm not a huge conspiracy, but can anyone respond as to the validity of these claims? ( I mean I don't believe everything I see on TV, but this shit was backed up by acclaimed scholars on factual evidence shown on a respected TV channel.)
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whatever happens, i'm along for the ride.
if there's truth in planetary pole reversal, then there will not be practically nothing we can do to stop it.
the only way is to adapt. go with the flow, move with the lands.
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Old news man, old news. Yeah, the Mayan calendar does end in December (12 or 21?) 2012
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DieCommie

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can anyone respond as to the validity of these claims?
Yes they are not valid.
The Chinese, Mayan, Aztec, Native Americans, Romans and Trojan civilizations do not have documented reasons as to the end in 2012
According to modern scientists there will be no cataclysmic event in 2012.
The earth's location in 2012 will not be near a large black hole.
If the magnetic field changes (possible, but not probable), Alaska will not shift to the equator.
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The Mayan calendar is the only system that specifically pinpoints 2012. Terrence McKenna later found another correlation to it in the I Ching, but this was his interpretation of it, and the I Ching itself does not specifically mention 2012. Supposedly there's something about 2012 in the Bible Code as well. I'm actually surprised that there aren't more predictions about such a significant astronomical alignment.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: Gumby]
#6629502 - 03/02/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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gumby, i once saw the strange creature in your avatar, but with an animated psychedelic background. it was cool. unfortunately i couldn't get a hold onto it, but looking back now i think you'd really like it.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: Gumby]
#6629505 - 03/02/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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December 21st I think..
It's NEW news to me that this is the time of the Planetary alignment at the approximate location of a HUGE black hole.
So, if earth is not destroyed by nuclear war by then, Alaska's gonna be in the sun belt or we'll get sucked into the black hole( and find out what happens when that happens) Not only that but several experts also report that certain meteoroid fails will also probably play a role in some of the destruction around the time because of the magnetic shift the earth will literally suck in comets/
The important question is: WHAT HAPPENED TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO when earth was in the same position we will so be in.
I can say one thing, there is going to nbe some HUGE hysteria closer to the time of 2012. I am sure that there will be chaos and riots rampant.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: DieCommie]
#6629507 - 03/02/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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can anyone respond as to the validity of these claims?
Yes they are not valid.
The Chinese, Mayan, Aztec, Native Americans, Romans and Trojan civilizations do not have documented reasons as to the end in 2012
According to modern scientists there will be no cataclysmic event in 2012.
The earth's location in 2012 will not be near a large black hole.
If the magnetic field changes (possible, but not probable), Alaska will not shift to the equator.
proof through negation?
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It's going to happen, it would be amazing if we didn't destroy each other with war by then. It's going to happen, not just because we believe it, but that's a part of it. It's going to happen, so are you ready? Better be ready when the lord comes knocking and not still in the field harvesting your grain. As sick as it sounds, I'm kind of hoping life degrades down to the level of man on man and right verse wrong. We can see who has the most guns and guts. In the end... we all die.
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not necessarily dismissing the possibility that there is absolutely nothing to the ancient accounts at all.
but i personally don't believe modern scientists or ancient scientists.
i see what i can see with the instruments i have available. everything else is just reference.
listen to the earth.
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Will 2012 be the end of an astromonical era? Definitely.
Does this mean mass destruction, hellfire & brimstone? ....................I HIGHLY doubt it. I'll be stunned....and humbled if shit really does go down.
The thing is, people have said the end, the rapture, etc, etc, was nihg for so long now......and yet we remain. So yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
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SirTokesALittle said: Did you know that the ancient Chinese, Mayan, Aztec, Native Americans, Romans and Trojans civilizations all have DOCUMENTED reason as to why 2012 will be the end of a 28,500 year cycle that this planet undergoes. A time where a cataclysmic event will cause great destruction.
According to MODERN scientists( and the history channel) this is also true. It is the time the earth enters and EXACT ALIGNMENT that occurs every 28,500 years with the sun and the PERFECT CENTER of the milky way galaxy. Experts have also discovered a large black hole within the galaxy around the approximate location of the earths position in December 2012. Experts say the earth will possibly tilt on it's axis and see a reversal of the magnetic field, where over the course of one or ten years, Alaska could shift to the equator.
I'm not a huge conspiracy, but can anyone respond as to the validity of these claims? ( I mean I don't believe everything I see on TV, but this shit was backed up by acclaimed scholars on factual evidence shown on a respected TV channel.)
I don't mean to flame you dude but this whole post is pretty ludicrous.
The sun will NEVER be in the middle of the galaxy....and I'm kind of unclear what 'alignment w/ the center' you're talking about. Every point in the galaxy is aligned with the center, lol. There is NOT going to be a black hole anywhere near us in 5 years. Galaxies don't spiral around as fast as car wheels. The magnetic field has been shifting a significant amount anyways....that's what it does. It roams. There's probably not going to be a noticeable effect of the shift, certainly not something that would suck in comets, lol.
I'm gonna call BS on the whole shebang. Maybe some sort of cultural/psychic revolution is possible, but 2012 will not be the endtimes. And I have a lingering suspicion that McKenna unconsciously interpreted the I Ching to make it coincide with the Mayan prediction.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: Hypercube]
#6629670 - 03/02/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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full magnetic pole reversal does happen just so you know...but the fact that people think the calender that we made up is timing it, IS ludicrous...
no reason in arguing it anyways, as there is no way to prove without a doubt what will happen in the future...just wait and see
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: supra]
#6629710 - 03/02/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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supra said: full magnetic pole reversal does happen just so you know...but the fact that people think the calender that we made up is timing it, IS ludicrous...
I'm not so sure about that after all all of our time measurements are based on astrological events.
1 day = the time it takes earth to spin on it's axis 1 year = the time it takes to make 1 trip around the sun
why is it so far fetched that we may be able to predict a pole change or another disastrous event.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: supra]
#6629717 - 03/02/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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supra said: ...but the fact that people think the calender that we made up is timing it, IS ludicrous...
What do mean a calendar we made up? The Mayan calendar is a complex combination of solar, lunar, and planetary calendars. It's the most accurate calendar of astronomical events ever made.
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: Dark_Star]
#6629782 - 03/02/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Will 2012 be the end of an astromonical era? Definitely
Does this mean mass destruction, hellfire & brimstone? ....................I HIGHLY doubt it.................... I'll be stunned....and humbled if shit really does go down
The thing is, people have said the end, the rapture, etc, etc, was nigh for so long now......and yet......we remain
So yeah - I'll believe it when I see it
this tends to sum up pretty much everything I woulda said myself, quite nicely
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Re: 2012( urgent) [Re: Muppet]
#6629808 - 03/02/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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better start collecting the drugs for 2012 now...
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Here's how I feel about it: I feel that we are entering a new era. I'm not so sure there will be some specific worldwide event to accompany it, but I do believe we are experiencing a major transition. Whether this transition will be accompanied by widespread destruction or a global shift in consciousness, I don't know. Possibly both.
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Seasons change...
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I believe another ancient society predicted the end of days in another year that has past, and we have groups of Christians predicting the rapture throughout their history so I doubt anything will happen.
Magnetic pole reversal happens, but it won't do anything. The geologic record shows many times of it happening and life wasn't wiped out. If we were to LOSE the magnetic field for some reason then harmful radiation would bombard Earth instead of being deflected. (Scientific American article)I doubt I'm going to deal with these in my lifetime and if I have to oh well.
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