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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: Acyl]
    #7056795 - 06/17/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Isn't the earth supposed to switch its gravitational pulls or something like that?




I think you meant.. the earths magnetic poles will reverse ?




No, everything will be shot away from Earth and into space.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7056825 - 06/17/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

The Mayan calendar does end on December 21, 2012. If you're interested in this kind of stuff you might also want to check out fractal time (timewave zero). A theory of Terrence McKenna's, also called novelty theory. If you have 7 minutes to spare check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-prt5d6m6s

Ultimately, he believes that on this date the first time machine is activated. That's some pretty heavy shit to think about and it gets me excited.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7056847 - 06/17/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I have the best question for you.

If the world ends... even if you know it's going to end... what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. NOOOTHING. Ok so live life as if you've never heard about 2012.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7056875 - 06/17/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7056923 - 06/17/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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The Mayan calendar does end on December 21, 2012. If you're interested in this kind of stuff you might also want to check out fractal time (timewave zero). A theory of Terrence McKenna's, also called novelty theory. If you have 7 minutes to spare check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-prt5d6m6s

Ultimately, he believes that on this date the first time machine is activated. That's some pretty heavy shit to think about and it gets me excited.




It doesn't end, it restarts because it's on a 400 year cycle.

At least that's what some Mayans said. But what the fuck would they know?


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: Maverick]
    #7056963 - 06/17/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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I have the best question for you.

If the world ends... even if you know it's going to end... what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. NOOOTHING. Ok so live life as if you've never heard about 2012.




I can only assume you're directing that to me. You imply that i said that i wanted to do something about it. I did not. I do plan to live my life regardless of this information (theory!). I've known about it for years and it has never once crossed my mind in any decision making thought process. Add something to the discussion if you're going to post.

Personally, I don't believe in much prophecy. From what I have read they are all written so vaguely they can be bent to fit a number of situations. However, there are several different sources for this 2012 thing. that's what gets me interested in it. Hell, the society that the Mayans created was unbelievable, compared to that of the rest of the world. They were able to predict, with astonishing accuracy, lots of astronomical events such as the lunar and solar eclipses.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7057395 - 06/17/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i spoke with a friend and this is what he told me...

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I did this as a research project last year where I had the priveladge of interviewing two local astronomers about the subject.

I'll start by debunking a few things I read in the other thread:

First of all, the Mayans believed there are three different eras the earth will live in. They lived in the second, and on 2012 their era would end with a giant comet from the sky.

Also, scientists believe that this solar alignment is a function of the polar shift, they aren't just shrugging their shoulders (A couple NASA scientists started writing books on it - as well as some mayan experts).

How can the polls shift? The only way our polls can shift is if the magnetic polls of the sun shift first. This is predicted to happen on Dec. 21, 2012 by a couple dudes in the early 1900's who deciphered the mayan predictions. On that date the galaxy's equator and the winter sun will perfectly allign (this will happen) and is an interesting feet for the mayan's to predict. Note that other people deciphered the mayan predictions a few thousand years apart (the mayan calendar doesn't just say END: 2012. It's a bunch of crazy symbols).

So why does everyone believe the 2012 prediction? Because the next sunspot cycle is expected to be the worst in 50 years or something. Somebody saw a strange reverse sunspot on the sun somewhere in July of 06. Basically, if the sun starts shooting out reverse sunspots then scientists believe that may mean the sun will reverse its polar magnetic fields.

WTF is a sunspot cycle? They are every 11 years or last 11 years... I don't remember. They are solar-storms really. The sun starts shooting out planet-sized balls of fire from its center dynamo, big enough to have its own magnetic field. The sunspot of july 06 was strange because it was both a magnetic reverse of all previous sunspots and because it arose from a strange position on the sun. The sunspot, however, only lasted about three hours and since most sunspots float in the air for a few days, the spot of july 06 was not recorded as an official sunspot. Most scientists are awaiting an official reverse sunspot.

What will happen? This is actually what nobody knows for sure but the immediate answer from scientists is the most obvious: flooding, earthquakes and we will all be subject to a much greater amount of the sun's rays.

CN: Mayan's apparently made an astonishing prediction they called the Sacred Tree that will occur Dec. 21, 2012 when the milkyway aligns with the winter's sun. This is the mark of the end of the 13-baktum Long Count Mayan cycle that happens to coincide with what may be the most rare astronomical occurance known to man. The Mayan's say it's doomsday and the third era begins - scientists say the planet may flip-flop magnetic polls.

Here's a really long explanation of how Mayan Long Count was deciphered and how current day astronomers can predict the alignment: http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

If you ask me... well, just keep in mind all of the other things Mayan's believed in. A bunch of people are running around screaming "this is how the dinosaurs died too!!!11!!!1" all of ther internets. Calm down - we can all wait to freak out untill NASA comes on the news talking about the sun's poles flipping and how it will effect us.
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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: danlennon3]
    #7057467 - 06/17/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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The world isnt going to end 2012... but a lotta shit is gonna go down that year




yeah dude i don't think were all gonna die. were just gonna have a nuclear war or something and like half of the population is gonna die.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: maggotz]
    #7057869 - 06/17/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Isn't the earth supposed to switch its gravitational pulls or something like that?




I think you meant.. the earths magnetic poles will reverse ?



yeah, unless earth's mass changes dramatically gravity will remain the same.




What if we create the higgs boson in the large hadron collider at CERN.. creating a ridiculous amount of mass in a very very small space.

Surely that would fuck us up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: Cepheus]
    #7057891 - 06/17/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i don't think that is possible at this point.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: maggotz]
    #7057911 - 06/17/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

due to setbacks at CERN...It was scheduled to be ready this year.. but it won't be for another few years..

I reckon if there is going to be any kind of ground breaking / civilisation changing event in the next few years it will be to do with CERN; either good or bad.


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: Cepheus]
    #7057932 - 06/17/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

the evolution of science and technology over the past 100 years has been insane and it has been carried out mostly by what, 10 or 15 countries at most. can you imagine the technological evolution that would occur if every country in the world had the resources to invest in R&D? :eek:


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Re: World Going to end in 2012?... [Re: maggotz]
    #7058000 - 06/17/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Doesnt it just start over. The end of one cycle and the begining of something new?


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