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Is the collective consciousness contacting you?
#8032546 - 02/16/08 08:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been having some "visions" from it that started in this past year. My friends think I'm nuts but whatever.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8032557 - 02/16/08 08:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8032574 - 02/16/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very serious ones. 
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8032755 - 02/16/08 09:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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tell the story and see how we resonate.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8032778 - 02/16/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you know what altered.... youre not so bad. i like ya.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8032803 - 02/16/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm quite fond of your honest expression of ideas and questions if i may say so myself.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8032828 - 02/16/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awww, you make this negro blush. At least someone appreciates what i do. that really makes me happy.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8032836 - 02/16/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
Celebrities, Politicians, and Corporate Logos.
The Collective Unconscious is far more interesting...
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Middleman]
#8032863 - 02/16/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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And the Collective Superconscious is just plain
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Middleman]
#8033074 - 02/16/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Middleman said:
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what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
Celebrities, Politicians, and Corporate Logos.
The Collective Unconscious is far more interesting...
reruns of the flavor of love?
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8033918 - 02/17/08 08:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ts727 said: what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
I have random moments were everything becomes really significant and then whoever or whatever im with(living things) i gain this extreme attatchment to it/them emotionally and mentally.
Its really kinda hard to explain.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8033990 - 02/17/08 08:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said:
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ts727 said: what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
I have random moments were everything becomes really significant and then whoever or whatever im with(living things) i gain this extreme attatchment to it/them emotionally and mentally.
Its really kinda hard to explain.
I know what you mean. I experience this quite often, almost like delusions of reference, but not quite. It's not like I think the guy on the TV is talking directly to me, because the government is sending secret messages to me through his news script. That would be unhealthy. But more like "I'm driving down the road, and I see a name of a business that, in my mind, I can relate to something relevant in my life. Is it coincidence? Am I creating it in my mind? Did "something" align it to happen?
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: jonathanseagull]
#8033996 - 02/17/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did "something" align it to happen?
Yes!
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8034111 - 02/17/08 09:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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there are no coincidences.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8034196 - 02/17/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm not sure what you mean by "contacting" you. you are a thread making up part of the collective, therefore, maybe you are just becoming more aware of it and are tapping into things that have always been there but you did not recognize before
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8034350 - 02/17/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did "something" align it to happen?
Yes!
Yeah, I often wonder if there often aren't sign posts along the way (synchronicities) to guide a person, if only they are aware enough to see them. Then again, I fear that I might be delusional at times as well, having suffered a psychotic break before. I have to wonder, am I nuts (because not many others perceive these type of things in their lives), or am I onto something that very few get onto? "Many are called, few are chosen" type deal.
I realize that true spirituality and mystic experiences are experienced by the minority, and that the further you get along the path, the more lonely it gets, and all that. But there is another more rational side of me that wonders if I'm not mentally unhealthy. Then I think that too many people throughout history have corroborated my experiences. I just go back and forth out of fear.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: jonathanseagull]
#8034385 - 02/17/08 11:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Many are called, few are chosen" type deal.
You mean, "Many are called, few choose to be chosen"...otherwise it's nonsensical. I don't think there's much truth behind this idea, though it sounds nice. There are just so many dedicated seekers, psychedelic users and otherwise, who have had only the faintest glimpses of what they're looking for. And there are many who just don't seem to be born into circumstances where they would seek religious experiences. Is it because they did not really listen to the call, or just that their experiences happened to led them a different way?
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and that the further you get along the path, the more lonely it gets, and all that.
I wonder if this is really the case. I think most people experience loneliness at times, and interconnectedness at others.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
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Lion said: Is it because they did not really listen to the call, or just that their experiences happened to led them a different way?
This is just more of the metaphysical ideology that I often think about, but can find no basis is this reality for it. But it sounds nice and makes a lot of sense to me. Your quote sort of describes the Vedic caste system. We have certain experiences that, if responded to correctly (choosing to be chosen), allow us to work out karma, which get us ready for the experiences we are talking about. So all in all, everyone is working towards those experiences, whether in this life time or not. I'm not really answer your question, but talking about the implications of it. I would say that "listening to the call" is an ability that one must be capable of performing. Gaining the ability is one stage, using it is another stage. So really, it's all a part of the same work. Some are simply in different stages.
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and that the further you get along the path, the more lonely it gets, and all that.
I wonder if this is really the case. I think most people experience loneliness at times, and interconnectedness at others.
I agree with you, that all experience lonliness at varying, with the possibility of equal intensities. But I mean, more of an existential lonliness. Being lonely, knowing you are lonely, watching and analyzing the loneliness, and being it to the extreme depths. It may feel the same, but is in a different class. That's kind of what I was getting at. Too, a person may refine himself to a point where he sees through much of the delusions of the mind that others do not, and watches them act in reactance to their own delusions. He sees their delusions, and sees why they act in that way, and it really takes the authenticity out of their "re"-actions, leaving them to be perceived much like animals or robots in a way. That is the lonliness I speak of.
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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: jonathanseagull]
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Ah.
That can be funny too, though. 
edit: didn't see the first part of your response... As Ram Dass says, every living being is on an inevitable path toward enlightenment. Because that's who we are.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8034465 - 02/17/08 12:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lion said: That can be funny too, though.
Yeah. It's kind of grim, for me, because the reactions I see usually just dig people deeper into suffering.
But what is awesome is finding other's who are "clear" as well. It's so refreshing not to be projected upon, placed into roles, etc.
Thanks for the convo Back to writing a paper for class!
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: jonathanseagull]
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Yeah. It's kind of grim, for me, because the reactions I see usually just dig people deeper into suffering.
I know what you mean. I meant more that it can be funny to watch your own conditioning, if you recognize the game... "Haha, look at all the directions mind is trying to go...and to where? Away from here? Into the not-now? Not gonna happen." 
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But what is awesome is finding other's who are "clear" as well. It's so refreshing not to be projected upon, placed into roles, etc.
That's one of the best feelings in the world. That can be hard, too, because you see how much you're still fitting people into boxes to keep your own comfort.
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Thanks for the convo Back to writing a paper for class!
I should be doing that too!
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: demiu5]
#8034622 - 02/17/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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demius said: i'm not sure what you mean by "contacting" you. you are a thread making up part of the collective, therefore, maybe you are just becoming more aware of it and are tapping into things that have always been there but you did not recognize before
Ya dont take that literally I lack the vocab to describe it.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8034908 - 02/17/08 02:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Please try your hardest to explain this idea you are portraying because if we can't understand you there is no point to this thread. Personally I'm very interested in what you are saying so please continue!
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
#8043331 - 02/19/08 03:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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awesomebastard said:
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ts727 said: what type of visions come from collective consciousness?
I have random moments were everything becomes really significant and then whoever or whatever im with(living things) i gain this extreme attatchment to it/them emotionally and mentally.
Its really kinda hard to explain.
i think i understand, as i have experienced visions of sorts too
it happens when identification with the ego and external world ceases, sometimes for mere moments, and i realize the dynamic evolving state of everything, rather than perceiving everything as static. it used to happen intensely when i meditated for an hour then took a long hike on a mountain top... it is unexplainable, but it is definitely there. it is like a vision of the world as one being, growing as one being, into what i don't know, but it is though i will find out eventually..
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: deranger]
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Ive never had visions before. I have had some experience with things like this though, one thing you have to be careful with is not to go to far. When things like this happen in your sober, waking life it easy to become un grounded. This can be very dangerous. You have to try and keep a certain amount of rational thought, along with your amazement and wonder. Ive been having some really interesting experiences lately, i feel in some way more aware of the miracle of life, and the miracle of being conscious. Its like beginning to break through the dream like monotony, where you can see a miracle before your very eyes but not even notice it. I'm sure tripping and meditation have led me to this, both have changed my view on life for the better.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: DimensionX]
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: backfromthedead]
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'Is the collective consciousness contacting you?'
Yes. It was a noetic bolt to the crown. A mushroom induced spontaneous kundalini awakening. Six weeks of mental torture. Now my balls and right above my ass crack are always buzzing. Almost uncomfy.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: backfromthedead]
#8052963 - 02/21/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just almost uncomfy?
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
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it was for me...
like being electrocuted, frozen
6 months of insanity
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: deranger]
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I got 6 months of that too, it was rough at times
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#8053052 - 02/21/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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but totally worth it eh?
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8053066 - 02/21/08 06:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The mind fuck was hell. God gently shocking my balls is just... Mischievous.
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: backfromthedead]
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-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8053104 - 02/21/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely worth it
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: Lion]
#8053110 - 02/21/08 06:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." ~Voltaire
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: awesomebastard]
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"..it is clear in studying the various aspects of the body, that the heart for example has its own intelligence and its own way of knowing, it has a very strong electrical field, there are ways in which one person's heart and another person's heart can become entrained when they are in proximity, so this begins to lean toward the idea of our connections and of the collective consciousness that can occur from our heads, from our hearts, and hopefully from our souls and beyond.."
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8053952 - 02/21/08 09:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: DimensionX]
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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: demiu5]
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can't become too attached to rational thought either, that would just bee cutting oneself off from the buzzz of life.
accept the past as past, and all thought of it as mere memory.
i am grounded when i feel connected to myself and the earth. others may feel grounded when thinking like everyone else. to each their own.
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I find trying to think like everyone else boring and painful. I think its like trying to squeeze a round peg into a square hole.
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demiu5
humans, lol


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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: deranger]
#8055363 - 02/22/08 07:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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SyntheticMInd said: can't become too attached to rational thought either, that would just bee cutting oneself off from the buzzz of life.
accept the past as past, and all thought of it as mere memory.
i am grounded when i feel connected to myself and the earth. others may feel grounded when thinking like everyone else. to each their own.
definitely not, but to function (well) in this current social setting we are in, one must be fairly grounded in what is generally accepted [i know, pretty blanket statement there] as reality.
but rational thought doesn't have to necessarily the end-all, be-all. one can maintain rational thought when necessary while, or even at the same time, remain in a state of "irrational" awareness
-------------------- channel your inner Larry David
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deranger


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Re: Is the collective consciousness contacting you? [Re: demiu5]
#8057988 - 02/22/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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with awareness comes the ability to be a very good actor
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