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Re: canada is safer than the united states, right [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
my argument simply started with that dude's claim that "if one of those women had a gun, then it would have stopped long ago", which basically suggested canada should allow guns.


Canada does allow guns, in fact. I'm too lazy to do any actual research right now, but I'm pretty sure that Canadians own more guns per capita than Americans.

It's just a shame that none of the poor women who were murdered by that psycho had one.


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Re: canada is safer than the united states, right [Re: Thor]
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Thor said:
You state that 98% of gun crimes in your area are that of black people, so you 'fear' them or the danger they create. Wrong or right, its facts.


I don't fear them.  I just am rational about where the highest chance of physical danger is.  A hundred some years ago it was out in the Wild West where white people were blowing each other away.  Nowadays, it's in the inner-city in black neighborhoods.  :shrug:

Thor said:
I'm in fact for responsible ownership and use of firearms. I'm just blatantly aware of the difference of living in the US under the fear of gang violence, media over portraying fear/danger, and the reason why so many stupid people have firearms.


Gang violence is quite real.  Danger is quite real.  But, as I said law-abiding citizens or even stupid law-abiding citizens aren't doing the killing.  It's the criminals and the occassional nutjob who are.

When weighing how to regulate a certain tool at the legal level one must go for the most utilitarian approach.  What will cause the most benefit and limit the most negatives?  I am willing to compromise and examine other viewpoints on gun regulation.  I am even willing to consider new restrictions on firearms.  However, much of the anti-gun lobby is frothing at the mouth for complete illegalization like in the UK.  I would never stand for that.

Thor said:
I don't blame black people, I blame the societial situation that has led to the problems. How you fix them, fuck knows but its obvious where the vast majority of gun violence comes from.


Poverty is relative.  When you have a roof over your head, you're overweight (because of eating too much), you have a cell-phone, and you have clothing on your back....are you poor?  Maybe in America but not when compared to the vast majority of people who have existed on this earth. 

I think it's cultural.  The black community plays the victim, rejects mainstream society, and embraces destructive behaviors and role models which sets the stage for such blatant violence and degradation.

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Re: canada is safer than the united states, right [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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tiny_rabid_birds said:
i never suggested any policy change in the US for that very reason. honestly, i haven't a clue how to fix america's vast amount of gun-related violence, so i won't pretend like i do.



It's a difficult and complicated subject, How do you limit violence without trampling upon the population's 2nd Amendment rights? How do you impose regulations and enforce them adequately?

We need compromise, common sense, and respect for individual freedom. Ideologues on both sides just poison the debate.

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Re: canada is safer than the united states, right [Re: Ziggen]
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Ziggen said:
paradox_ said:
I don't understand how more guns being around would have stopped this guy from killing anyone.


If any one of the women he had killed had been carrying a gun, she, along with all the women killed after her, would still be alive.


It would have made no difference at all. They were prostitutes and junkies which pickton picked up, and I think he was shooting them up with winshield washer fluid\radiator fluid, or just strangling them.
If a gun would have helped, so could a taser, but as we can see either none of these people had one, or there just wasn't the chance or the foreknowledge to use it.
I think he claims to have killed 49 people, but so far they have found remains from only 26 bodies.

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Andrew Bellwood told court he and Mr. Pickton were watching television in Mr. Pickton's residence in March 1999 when Mr. Pickton described how he killed prostitutes by having sex with them from behind, handcuffing them and strangling them before taking them to his slaughterhouse.


If he pickes up a prostitute for bondage sex, and kills them while they're bound up, a gun clearly can't do anything.

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