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Supernatural Powers or Illusion?
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Watch the videos in order.

Chris Angel has stated repeatedly that he's an illusionist and has no supernatural powers. Many mystic-heads refuse to accept this and believe that he actually defies the rules of the universe and levitates.

Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean it's magic. If you look close enough and apply critical thought, there is ALWAYS a rational explanation.

The illusion:


The revelation:


If a talented performer can so easily fool you, imagine how much easier it is for you to fool yourself.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Diploid]
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I think everyone already knows that Cris Angel is a stage magician, BUT he has mastered the manipulation of attention which funny enough is the root of all magical traditions. However, there is nothing supernatural going on.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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However, there is nothing supernatural going on.

Tell that to these crystal-loving freakazoids with no critical thinking skills:

Chriss Angel and David Blaine are sorcerers (male versions of witches). I know that referring to someone as a sorcerer or witch is not politically correct, but the shoe fits, and I call it how it is. There is no scientific explanation for what Chriss Angel and David Blaine do--because witchcraft is not science--but there is definitely a supernatural explanation.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-409876-sorcery-and-witchcraft-plain-and-simple.html


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Diploid]
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People like that are obviously just clueless.

Magicians manipulate their own attention, Illusionists manipulate the attention of others.

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Middleman]
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> People like that are obviously just clueless.

I think the point Diploid is trying to make is that a whole lot of people are like that with everything from 9/11 to UFOs.


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Just another spore in the wind.

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Seuss]
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david blaine Pwns criss angel.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
However, there is nothing supernatural going on.

Tell that to these crystal-loving freakazoids with no critical thinking skills:

Chriss Angel and David Blaine are sorcerers (male versions of witches). I know that referring to someone as a sorcerer or witch is not politically correct, but the shoe fits, and I call it how it is. There is no scientific explanation for what Chriss Angel and David Blaine do--because witchcraft is not science--but there is definitely a supernatural explanation.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-409876-sorcery-and-witchcraft-plain-and-simple.html


These idiots are in no way representative of the mystical/occult community at large, any more than people who believe the earth is flat or that pro wrestling and Harlem Globetrotters games aren't staged.


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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Silversoul]
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Pro wrestling is NOT staged!! :noway:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Silversoul]
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These idiots are in no way representative of the mystical/occult community at large,

Then who does represent them? The folk here at the Shroomery?:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
These idiots are in no way representative of the mystical/occult community at large,

Then who does represent them? The folk here at the Shroomery?:lol:


I think it represents redneck America in general.


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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Silversoul]
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What is "it"? Do you mean the Shroomery folk? I wouldn't go that far. I have lived around rednecks much of my life.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Diploid]
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Yes, Chris Angel is a great stage magician. I like the new trend of 'street magick'. And I like, like a child to be fooled and then, like an adult look behind the curtains. Both parts are part of the equation.
You've seen those splitting body tricks of him ? I still wonder how he did that. Liliputs ? Invalids ? Still it's ugly but even crossing moral standards is part of his duty and part of the fascination those guys do.


And of course there's not really one unexplained 'trick' from stage mages. If they build most of their tricks on illusions, why should it be different with any other trick they do ? But some are really very tricky :grin:
I :heart: them


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Icelander]
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Quote:
I have lived around rednecks much of my life.


Oh, bullshit. I'm the closest thing you've seen to a real redneck in years. Where you live "rednecks" eat organic food and pray over crystals.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

Edited by Huehuecoyotl (11/13/07 05:01 PM)

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Re: Supernatural Powers or Illusion? [Re: Jack Albertson]
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ts727 said:
david blaine Pwns criss angel.


:thumbup:


>^;;^<


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I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."
>^;;^<

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