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I want to join a Buddhist monastery.
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Something I've been considering very seriously in the last few months, after focusing more and more of my energy on meditation, is joining a Buddhist monastery for a year or so. Setting aside a huge chunk of time where my only concerns will be manual labor and meditation. I think many others who have experienced psychedelics as I have will agree, the society we live in is degrading, perverted, and spiritually corrosive. If anything, that's the main reason we're so fascinated by psychedelics in the first place (or at least, why I am): the transcendent experience, a fundamental aspect of the human experience and a fundamental part of most cultures, is entirely absent in modern, industrialized life. The values we live by as a culture are, quite simply, wrong. Money is the ultimate need, and the ultimate aphrodisiac. Sex is what keeps you happy. That's about the summation of the goals we are given at the onset of our lives. I don't know when I would do this, but the idea is becoming more and more compelling. I want to give my soul a chance to grow and thrive.

Has anybody else here spent an extended period of their life in silent contemplation? Tried to escape the madness we live by?


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (10/20/07 09:46 PM)

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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my cousin spent 3 years as a bhikku in asia;
he returned with a fine glow upon him.
i have only worked in my context as is.

i once thought i wanted to go to thailand and india or maybe sikkim or even japan to do what needed doing. but anything can be used to open your eye; you don't need to go far at all to sit still in the middle of your self as you are.

society will be what it is, money will be what it is, body will be what it is, mind in the middle of it all wants to see what it is and how it connects.


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:brainfart: _ :finger:

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Has anybody else here spent an extended period of their life in silent contemplation? Tried to escape the madness we live by?



I'll just go hiking in the woods or camp for a few days. Goto a campground that doesn't have many commodities.


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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It is not necessary to renounce the world - only the attachment to it. I live in a cool home with a beautiful Lady. Eventually, I will have to let go of them and ultimately, of my own biological life. What is your hurry? Seems to me, you might be copping out. Even life in a monastery is drama. I prefer my own drama, which is very very minimal, on my own terms.

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Interesting perspective Markos. I guess if you can find peace here you can find it anywhere.

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I the past I would have said you're running away. But now I know you can't. So I say go for it if you think that will help. How else will you know.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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The Goal of Meditation is to clear your mind and soul of emotional debris.
To find an inner peace, as it where.
Talk to some people at a Buddhist Temple.
I think they will agree, that it's not necessary to escape to the mountaintop to obtain enlightenment and peace... meditation can bring the mountaintop to you.

Good luck in your quest
Shdwstr

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I think many others who have experienced psychedelics as I have will agree, the society we live in is degrading, perverted, and spiritually corrosive.


It could be that you could do work now that would prepare you for spiritual discipline. I would suggest that you fully accept your condition in life and the people with whom you share it. Judging the lives of others and the product of their associations as "degrading, perverted, and spiritually corrosive" is a spiritually corrosive process itself that the monastery WILL NOT heal. Going to the spirit with this attitude is merely elitism, and it will not help you.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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spot on post


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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roshi is really convinced he's a cup
so throwing bricks through his head is the same everywhere you go


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I have considered such matters.

SIKE

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Cherk]
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I'm not sure I would do it. And I'm not entirely certain what level of commitment is necessary. I wouldn't want to spend my entire life this way.

I have nothing against the people in this society, nor do I have any delusions of superiority. I'm a part of this culture as much as anyone else. I just have serious problems with the social and power structures we have to deal with. Our society is gravitating towards unabashed worship of money and technology. This isn't a new phenomenon, but it is intensifying. I don't have a problem with people who have succeeded in these terms, but I feel personally uneasy with it.

I suppose it's true, though, that there are much less drastic ways of doing the same thing.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (10/21/07 12:17 PM)

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I hear you. I would prefer things be much different myself. I don't like living around it at all. But shit follows you around because we are created in the likeness of the culture. We have all this shit in us even if we don't act it out to the extent of the majority. I just try to make the best of the deal and try to be excepting of things the way they are. That doesn't mean I like them because I don't.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Ananda is only 4 hours east of you. They offer (or did) weekly and monthly retreats. Check it out. Very beautiful setting in the Sierra Nevadas near Nevada City.


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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
spot on post


This should help get that spot off the post:



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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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YOU!
You cleaned my dalmatian! :mad:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Sorry. :blush: :crazy:


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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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My posts often have spots on them. I just accept them for what they are.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Tchan,

I've been wanting to do exactly this in the last half year or so. I guess my college education and uncertainty is what is holding me back.

Visiting a foreign country and knowing only english is quite an undertaking.

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: mushroomplume]
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I say go for it. Some people in here have said you might be looking in the wrong places, but I don't see how a retreat to a monastery like your idea could really be detrimental to one's personal spiritual growth.

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Re: I want to join a Buddhist monastery. [Re: Kinematics]
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I have considered it a lot as well. The idea of a monastic lifestyle is certainly compelling at times. I think what often appeals to me is the phantom of the experience though. I have an image in my head of myself sitting and not really feeling anything, just a kind of breezy serenity, and all the paradoxical questions of life that I struggle with would be like distant background noise. And maybe they would be if you worked at your practice enough!

A friend of mine when he first got home from a monastery, came to pick me up at my house and as soon as I got in the car I was hit by how powerful his aura was - that glow that redgreenvines mentions. But I am sure it takes a lot of courage and hard work to exist in such a state, and such a state is not what my mind projects it to be.

Anyway, I'm not saying anything that others have not said. Just in a different way. Which is maybe all I can do. I hope that if you choose to reside in a monastery it will be a great help to you on your path.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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