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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69918 - 12/30/99 02:23 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

well ryche obviously must have fruited them. ask him. duh.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69920 - 12/30/99 02:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I just started shipping the first syringes out Dec 24th. So ppl are just now getting them. Should be a month or so before we start hearing reports and seeing pictures :smile:

I'm still working on packageing the glass prints in case anybody is still waiting on their prints. They should be ready to start shipping Jan 4th.

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69921 - 12/30/99 02:57 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks Ryche for your answer.

Sean, Don't be such a dick!!! I did post questions to Ryche about them and didn't get an answer asshole!



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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69922 - 12/30/99 03:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i was debating wether or not to include "duh".


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69923 - 12/30/99 05:43 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry dude I didn't mean to be an asshole either...


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69924 - 12/30/99 06:38 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

No I deserved it in this case. I should have considered that you may have been asking if anyone else had fruited them which you were. On a lighter note I plan to cultivate Cambodia cubensis and the Golden Teacher strain from The Spore Works. I have a question for Ryche I hope you are reading this. Workman said that "his" Panaeolus cyan were actually you Panaeolus Trop. He is not sure wether they are pan trop or pan cyan. what is your opinion. is it true that pan trop are suppose to be smaller then the pan cyan. you cant get much smaller then the pan cyan in most cases. i mean in most cases pan cyan is really small.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69925 - 12/30/99 07:20 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

According to Stamets in "Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World":

Pan Cyans...Stem 85 - 115 mm by 1.5 - 3 mm thick. Caps 1.5 - 3.5 cm.

Pan Trops...Stem 60 - 80 mm by 2 - 3 mm thick. Caps 1.5 - 2 cm.

Additionally he states that the two are virtually identical macroscopically, differing only in the Cyan having larger spore size and the interior aspects of it's spores. I haven't checked the spore size comparison. I have prints of both strains from Ryche and I'll throw them under the microscope tonight.

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69926 - 12/30/99 07:23 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

That is cool Shroom Mage.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69927 - 12/31/99 12:04 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

So the Trops are smaller? I was under the impression they were a little bigger. I got some colonizing right now. What is the potentcy of the trops?


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69928 - 01/04/00 12:39 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I was under the impresstion they were bigger also. My partner did a lot of work with both pan trops and pan cyans, and the pan trops always came out bigger, and mroe potent.

I have some pics of the two side by side, I'll scan them and post them soon.

The original pan trop came from mr. G in FL, and it did take my partner quite a while to fruit the pan trops before the pan cyans. The original print was wild, but seems to grow much easier now.

Would love to hear back from Shroom Mage what he finds under a microscope, but one thing I will say is I've tried the pan cyans and these pan trops several times, and both my partner and I agreed they were more potent then the pan cyans. Stamets also list them as being more potent then pan cyans.

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69929 - 01/04/00 01:13 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69930 - 01/04/00 03:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

HI RYCHE! WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PANAEOLUS CYANESCENS? WORDS CAN NOT DISCRIBE HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE! I AM SURE THE PAN TROP IS JUST AS INTENSE!

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69931 - 01/04/00 09:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Shittt! In my opion the Pan Cyans fucking suck!!! Big time suck!!! I would take a cubie of any kind over a cyan. Don't know what all the hype is about? They fruit like hell, they shrink like hell, they suck like hell!!! That is just my opion!!! I will let you know what I think of the Trops in about 2 weeks or so...


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69932 - 01/04/00 09:18 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Well even if they are hard to cultivate they are still super potent. I have found beautiful Panaeolus cyanescens growing wild. I have never grown them my self though a friend of mine is attempting to grow them. they rule even if they are hard to grow.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69933 - 01/04/00 09:20 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

they are small but good.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69934 - 01/04/00 09:21 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Well Sean, I enjoyed the high of the p. cyan very much. Its a very peacefull pleasant high, very potent, colorfull, soothing on the soul. No body noise. Very nice. Although I enjoyed the pan trops much more. These were extremely visual, and potent.
Yes.. the down side to pans, is they do shrink up once dried and you sure dont get a lot of mushrooms for the effort. But none the less.. its the mad scientist in us all that keeps us trying new species and enjoy seeing different mushrooms fruit. The high is just the bonus :smile:

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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69935 - 01/04/00 09:30 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Pan cyans are not hard to grow. They fruit right next to my cubies in the same terrarium ON CAKES OF SHIT AND BIRDSEED and they suck period. I got the spores from the chicks. So if you haven't grown them you don't know. I have grown them and I thought they were super potent to and told my friends , HEY THESE KICK ASS!!! and they laughed at me. They take a long time to hit you the high don't last that long and minimal visuals. But like I said that is just me and my buddies opions...


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69936 - 01/04/00 10:20 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Euronymous, it's amazing that we obtained pan cyan spores from the same source (Sporechicks) and yours sucked and mine blew away me and my pals. We found them to be more potent than any cubes.
Possibly the answer has something to do with the cultivation process. Didn't try birdseed and shit method, just colonized PF Tek-style rice and then cased - twice - with a 1/4 inch layer of organic sheep manure.
The pan cyans' size may be disappointing to those who love monster-size specimens, but they fruit very quickly, taste better and are very potent. Just another opinion.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69937 - 01/05/00 02:36 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I ate 6.5 grams of Copelanida cyanescens the first time i tried them. I know this was of course a bad idea but i was not informed of their potentcy. had a horribly bad trip (bad meaning intense). i am not going to get into what i experienced because i am not sure i could explain but i have done copelanida cyanescens (mostly wild) numerous times since my first trip usually 2-3 grams at a time and they are a very cool mushrooms. i want to try the pan trops i don't know why workman sells Ryche's pan trops as pan cyan because Ryche you pan trops look a hell of a lot different (and better) then your pan cyans even thought your cyans look good too. i e mailed a few smart shops in amsterdamn that sell copelandia including concsious dreams, amazing nature and sagarmatha asking about the method they use to cultivate their pan cyans, i got a reply back from amazing nature. all that they told me was they use the mushroom cultivator as a precursor.


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Re: Has anyone fruited the Cambodians yet???
    #69938 - 01/05/00 04:48 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Well maybe I should give them another chance on another substrate. I was just very dissapointed with my first go at it. Its just the spores are exspensive if they don't do me right you know. I am growing the Trops on PF style substrate so I'll see what happens.


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