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 pfsilly2
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 Re: Cambodians 
#275283 - 03/20/01 12:24 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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go to the spore exchange forum there's a guy there who sells prints for 6 bucks and he's pretty reliable to.
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 avarrin
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Re: Cambodians
#275328 - 03/20/01 01:22 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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Rxwoman:
Read the previous posts that has Ryche as the subject... I dont want to wait three weeks for a syringe.
VivaLaRevolution:
Obviously... However if I had wanted to take the time to make a spore syringe I would have read up and how to do it, and I would have done it, but since I *didnt* read up on how to do it, and I asked where i could *BUY* a spore syringe... that should tell you that I have no intrest in making my own.. and would rather buy one... and it dosent take a rocket scientist to figure that out either.
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VivaLaRevolution
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 Re: Cambodians [Re: avarrin]
#275332 - 03/20/01 01:38 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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no need to go crazy like that.
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avarrin
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No need to go crazy like what? I was just stating two simple facts.
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Insomnia
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Re: Cambodians
#275409 - 03/20/01 03:30 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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First of all, anyone who complains about waiting for spores needs to make their own prints and syringes. Secondly, chances are, if you just take a few extra minutes and make sure you're ordering spores the right way, you won't have to wait a month!
For example, people who order from PF and request a variety of strains and insist on sending the order to the "slow" address will have to wait! Use your head, people! On the Hawk's Eye site, Ryche asks (or, at least used to ask) people to give him a heads up about what they're ordering before they send money, that way he can get the order ready. So if you want spores from Ryche, send him a VERY SHORT courtesy e-mail.
Anyone who has given a completely negative report about Ryche either a can't grow, or hasn't really ordered from him. And maybe once some syringes were so-so, l but I know from reports from reliable people that he replaced those FREE. He is very flexible with customers!! And if you think his Cambo strain sucks, I invite you to check out my work at http://mushrooms.eshire.net - the first image is the end of day three, the next is day four, the last is day 5. Those were grown on BRF/Verm in an 11"x5"x4" plastic tray! Total substrate colonization in 10 days or so, pinning 5 days later, harvest 5 days after that. 20 days give or take from start to finish isn't bad at all.
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avarrin
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Insomnia]
#275426 - 03/20/01 03:50 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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Dioze1:
First off... I know how to make spore syringes.. however, its hard to make syringes without prints... and if im going to spend the money/time to order prints... I would rather find a site where i can order the syringes.
Second... Im more self reliant than you will ever know.
Third... Im never desperate.
Fourth... You assume too much.
Insomnia:
Thank you... I realise now I was going about it the wrong way :) I will be sure to email him before I send in the payment. Thanks!
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Serpent
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Insomnia]
#275569 - 03/20/01 07:26 PM (24 years, 7 days ago) |
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Insomnia: Those are some very nice looking shrooms you got! If you don't mind me asking, how many cakes do you have cased there, and what did you use to case; 50/50?
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Rxwoman
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 Re: Cambodians [Re: Insomnia]
#275707 - 03/20/01 10:50 PM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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Insomnia,
those pictures are impressive. Day 5 though, day 5 after what? Complete colonization? and total subsrate colonization after 10 days? Well my llama must be doing something wrong then because he has innoculated brf and verm cakes in half pint jars with cambodian spores from The Hawk's Eye a week ago monday ( that would be 8 full days ago) and there's barely dime sized , or smaller patches of colonization showing, in half the jars, and none showing yet in the other half. He's keeping them at a good 80-ish.
what are you doing to get those kinds of results?
thanks for the help, Rxwoman.
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avarrin
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Serpent]
#275734 - 03/20/01 11:26 PM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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really tho! those are some nice pics!
~ava
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PanTrop
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Re: Cambodians [Re: avarrin]
#275865 - 03/21/01 06:49 AM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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Insomnia
hehehehe, you took the words outta my mouth, espically about Ryche. :)
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dioze1
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 Re: Cambodians [Re: avarrin]
#275891 - 03/21/01 08:47 AM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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avarrin,
You are a touchy sort aren't you?!
First of all, I do not believe you! You do NOT know how to make syringes. If you did you would!!
You can get a print from Ralphster(for free or cheap) and make 5-10 syringes in about and hour or so! You call that work/time? You are rather lazy.
Secondly, if you are so self reliant(pertaining to Mushroom cultivation) then why do you not know where/how to order syringes? If you are so self reliant you should have been able to get ALL this info ON YOUR OWN!(especially the info. that Insomnia supplied! It is right there on the site!!)
Thirdly, if you can't wait three weeks(you have already wasted a week) you are desperate!
Fourthly, I assume nothing! I am merely stating what you have made painfully obvious!
Finally, don't be so damn defensive! It makes it hard for those of us who are only trying to help out!!
Good luck with your efforts!
Dioze1
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: Cambodians [Re: dioze1]
#275949 - 03/21/01 11:47 AM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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BTW, there were only a handfull of ppl that waited a month.
Some of those may have been ppl that sent me personal checks, or we were out of the strains they requested.
I'm only 2 weeks behind at this point and will be getting all of those out friday/monday.. and will be caught up and back to mailing 2X a week.
Once again, if there is anything these mushrooms have taught me in life is PATIENCE !!!
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Insomnia
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Rxwoman]
#275988 - 03/21/01 01:20 PM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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Rxwoman: 10 days from inoculation to full substrate colonization in jars. I use my gas oven as an incubator. The pilot light generates just the right amount of warmth to get the job done. Then, it takes around 5 days for the mycelia to pin after casing. Lastly, 5 days from pinning to picking. Those pictures are of the end of day 3 of pinning, then day 4, then day 5 I picked them.
I've found manipulating humidity and temperature during pinning can finish the fruiting process faster or slower depending on what changes you make - but more importantly, I've learned the benefits of evaporative feeding.
But seriously, using the oven's pilot light to incubate, I haven't waited longer than 13 days for the Cambos to take over the BRF/Verm. Good genetics help, too. Also, try injecting a bit more spore water when you inoculate. I'm not saying one syringe per jar or anything (ha ha) but increasing the amount won't hurt.
And yeah, the casing in those pictures is 50/50 peat/verm. I think that tray had a little less than 5 jars worth in it.
Peace.
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ralphster44
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Insomnia]
#276164 - 03/21/01 05:15 PM (24 years, 6 days ago) |
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12BLate
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Ralphster44
How do you know any of those people that are sending you those free prints are cambodians or the many other spores your selling now ?
Your getting free spores from most people that want free spores. How many growers out there actually care about the strain they grow and take the time to label and grow them separate. One of my friends recently mixed pf classics with pf ecuadors. Now he is calling the whole casing ecuadors.
So what happens when he sends you free prints and labels them ecuaodrs. What do you do?
All of you should think about this. These almost free spores. How much TLC is going into this. You get what you pay for :(
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Re: Cambodians [Re: 12BLate]
#276455 - 03/22/01 05:25 AM (24 years, 5 days ago) |
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tom
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Don't go w/ cambo from ryche. I innocced a seperate quart FP grain bags ano no signs of colonization after 2 weeks. DB is really a box of shit.
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WOmbdAbblER
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Re: Cambodians [Re: tom]
#277771 - 03/24/01 03:16 AM (24 years, 3 days ago) |
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tom i love your pic (under your name.) is that you? what's that on your head?
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Ryche Hawk
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hey Tom,
did it ever occur to you that maybe your syringes got frozen in shipping?
The cambodians do not do well in freezing or cold temps at all.
They love heat. In fact, anyone living in snow bound area right now, I would not recommend ordering cams in syringes at all. Prints are ok, but when suspended in water and frozen, they dont survive.
Eddie Walker got a kit and cam spores from the same batch you did and his are doing fine.
Send me a PM Tom and I'll send you something else out.
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Rxwoman
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Re: Cambodians [Re: tom]
#277993 - 03/24/01 02:12 PM (24 years, 3 days ago) |
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It's strange that you would post that. My llama Hercules sent for cambodians also, and the syringe was so contaminated with bacteria. To be fair, the Hawk's Eye promptly replaced the syringe, but now, out of 8 jars only 5 have germinated, and those have been growing for almost 2 weeks and the growths are only a dime sized to a quarter sized, a couple even smaller than that. I cannot help but wonder what Hercules is doing wrong. I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps
his syringe didn't get chilled also? I know Cambos are supposed to colonized very quickly too, so something must be very wrong.
On the other hand, from the first syringe that was contaminated with bacteria, all the jars and grain, and especially the honey water all really boiled up with funky bacteria, except, somehow for one that germinated in one spot. That one jar colonized eventually, and even though it never would colonize 100%, he finally just cut off the uncolonized area. He crumbled the cake which was pinning already, and cased it. It finally produced some beautiful fruit, that though smaller than the posted pictures, were a very nice change from the short, fat-assed fruit that the PF Classics had grown.
Anyway, maybe he should wait until warmer temps, and try again. Rxwoman.
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Kast
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Ryche, I'm not trolling you so don't take it that way. But for years, I've been under the impression that all mushroom spores are coated with the same hard organic substance which protects them from below freezing temperatures. And ESPECIALLY within the same species, I would imagine that if one cubensis could survive freezing which it surely can do, then another cubensis could survive freezing as well. Do you have a source of your info., or is it just speculation?
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Re: Cambodians [Re: Kast]
#278091 - 03/24/01 05:17 PM (24 years, 3 days ago) |
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Only nature and experience Kast.
Some cubs have adapted to environment where freezing does occur in the winter. Places like thailand and cambodia, I doubt they see much, if any snow there ;) That is probably whey we see these strains do so well in the heat.
On the other hand, the Tasmania strain, which has 4 seasons, and a very short warm season, where cubensis mushrooms can only be found growing 1 or 2 months out of the year, they have adapted to the colder freezing temps much better, and we've had those babies fruiting outdoors daytime temps of 60F night low of 45F.
Its just my theory that they have adapted survival traits to their natural habitat to spread their spore.
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Kast
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I completely agree with that, but I was curious as to the spores themselves, not just the strain of mushroom being grown. Are you saying that the spores' characteristics are relative to the strain's?
And you know what, I have no idea if they are or not. I've never heard of anything saying they are or aren't, so I'm completely in the dark here. I've always assumed spores were spores, and even though what sprouted from them was different, they were all made of the same stuff.
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Eddie Walker
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Re: Cambodians [Re: tom]
#278118 - 03/24/01 06:12 PM (24 years, 3 days ago) |
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Tom and avarrin my FOAF was keeping them 65'~90' (thought we killed them a few times) and they were going kinda slow. He saw first signs at 6~8 days. It got about 30% at day 16.
But since that time he has buffered the heater with a huge anatomy book and gotten the temp to stay 80'~83' and it went from 50->90% in 4 days. I'll keep you guys updated as they progress.
What temperature is your freind keeping them tom? My freind also had the worst habit of shaking them too many times. I think he has shook them like 5 times total. I would suggest a maximum of 2 or 3 shakes.
Sorry wish I had a digital camera. Hmm maybe I'll have to buy one.
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