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If Hpoo is the preferred substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium
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If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium, rye berries, millet ect.? Sorry if this is a repetitive Q.


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Edited by Meatfart (05/17/07 03:57 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: Meatfart]
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First off , I wouldn't say h/poo IS the best substrate . Correctly answer this question before preceding onto what the best spawn material is ,lol .


For most peeps , the preferred spawn material is either Rye or WBS .

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Edited by HippieChick (05/17/07 02:55 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: HippieChick]
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RR says that Hpoo is the preferred substrate for cubensis and I would be more inclined to believe him Hippie Chick, "lol":rolleyes:


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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: Meatfart]
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it's obvious hpoo is the preferred bulk substrate.
wbs or rye is preferred spawn medium.
I prefer rye.

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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i lot of people have had alot of successful grows with coir also because poo is not that readily availible to everyone.

and look at some of hippiechicks old threads. she knows how to grow. so her advice is as good as anyones.

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: blood4blood]
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oh god please, you cannot put coir in the same class as horse poo, that's like taking a baseball bat to a soccer field, comparing a Yugo to a freekin Saleen.


coir is useless in mycology IME/IMO/IRL

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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ive played baseball in a soccer field. and any make or model of a car can be mad into a saleen. you should take some comparison tips from some of RR's posts cuz yours are no good.

i didnt say coir was the best, but yes you can put it in the same class. so all of these people haveing amazing flushes with coir must of accidentially put poo in as a bulk or what?

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: blood4blood]
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whatever dude then this needs to stop being shroomery, and be the "RogerRabbittry" if you want RR's opinion ask him, NOT THE SHROOMERY COMMUNITY ok thankS?

coir is not in the same class as horsepoo, and it is nothing i would ever consider as a bulk substrate. have fun with your coir shrooms, and their wonder.

I simply stated coir is useless in my experience, in my opinion, in real life. Horse poOpies for the win yo!

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you should take some comparison tips from some of RR's posts cuz yours are no good.


you make no sense when you say this, i don't need RR's tips on comparing what I may or may not like, i can make my own decisions, and when did i ever make any "comparison tips" for you to make a judgement weather they r good or bad? other then the fact i say coir is useless.

coir:

hpoo:

Edited by jeetered (05/17/07 05:20 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered] * 1
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Coir is very close in performance to horse manure. Cow manure can perform nearly as well too, but will benefit from a bit of coffee grinds and some loosening up with vermiculite. As I've said hundreds of times, a combination of substrate ingredients will give better performance than any one by itself. That means, you'll get more bang by mixing cow, horse, and a bit of chicken manure with coir, coffee grinds, compost and straw.

Horse manure is a preferred substrate because its texture is easy for the mycelium to penetrate, and works fine by itself, as do any of the bulk substrate ingredients listed above. Horse manure edges them out a bit in my opinion, but coir runs a close second.

To answer the original question, my preferred spawn material hands down over all the others is organic rye berries. Rye grass seed would be second, with wbs coming in third.
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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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jeetered said:
whatever dude then this needs to stop being shroomery, and be the "RogerRabbittry" if you want RR's opinion ask him, NOT THE SHROOMERY COMMUNITY ok thankS?

coir is not in the same class as horsepoo, and it is nothing i would ever consider as a bulk substrate. have fun with your coir shrooms, and their wonder.

I simply stated coir is useless in my experience, in my opinion, in real life. Horse poOpies for the win yo!

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you should take some comparison tips from some of RR's posts cuz yours are no good.


you make no sense when you say this, i don't need RR's tips on comparing what I may or may not like, i can make my own decisions, and when did i ever make any "comparison tips" for you to make a judgement weather they r good or bad? other then the fact i say coir is useless.



hahahahah, That was fucken awsome. Nothing againts RR's shit, I read it all the time but that was halarious. Thanks for the laugh man I needed it.


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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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i wasnt talking about what you thought about coir. sorry if you misunderstood that. in reference to "bringing a baseball bat to a soccer field" and "comparing a yugo to a saleen" im not trying to argue with ya bro just stating that people have had really sucsessful grows with coir. and that was all i said in my first post in this thread.

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: blood4blood]
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That means, you'll get more bang by mixing cow, horse, and a bit of chicken manure with coir, coffee grinds, compost and straw.



basically what i use, minus the coffee, minus the coir.


and RR i mean no offense by any of my post up there, i just wanted to make a dramatic point.

and yes, organic rye berry.


Edited by jeetered (05/17/07 05:29 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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jeetered said:
oh god please, you cannot put coir in the same class as horse poo, that's like taking a baseball bat to a soccer field, comparing a Yugo to a freekin Saleen.


coir is useless in mycology IME/IMO/IRL


You are bein so friggin ignorant it's ridiculous. You're like those bible thumpin christians who refuse to believe anything no matter if its the truth / fact.

Coir is a great material and has MANY uses in mycology. Too bad I just rated someone, cuz id tell you to quit postin outta yer ass too...

Also, I would go as far to say that RR is one of the main backbones of this community, and it would be lost w/ out him. Take heed from any of his advice, HE KNOWS HIS SHIT!!

And he is correct in saying that, a mix of substrates is better than one alone.

If you're using H/poo + cow poo, chicken poo, compost and straw - then you've got a strong mix but you can't contribute it all to H/poo.

Also, again, coir is a great substrate and there should be no debating that..

Edited by BlehMaestro (05/17/07 05:39 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: BlehMaestro]
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lolz

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You are bein so friggin ignorant it's ridiculous. You're like those bible thumpin christians who refuse to believe anything no matter if its the truth / fact.


last i remembered in the EULA personal attacks weren't accepted.

i take serious offense to being accused of being a christian.

Edited by jeetered (05/17/07 06:09 PM)

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: jeetered]
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jeetered said:
lolz

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You are bein so friggin ignorant it's ridiculous. You're like those bible thumpin christians who refuse to believe anything no matter if its the truth / fact.


last i remembered in the EULA personal attacks weren't accepted.

i take serious offense to being accused of being a christian.


Can you read? I said you were like them, I didn't say you were one. How am I supposed to know that?

I didn't attack anything...at all.

Try defending your point instead of beating around the bush.

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: BlehMaestro]
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Chill pill anyone?


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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: Stropharis]
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just one question on that note that rr did if i was to add chicken,horse,cow,coir,straw how much of each?


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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: xaxphaanes]
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xaxphaanes said:
just one question on that note that rr did if i was to add chicken,horse,cow,coir,straw how much of each?


He would say - any amount you have on hand of each. Besides chicken manure, I believe, that needs to be used in smaller amounts.

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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: BlehMaestro]
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i have 30 pounds of each lol! that would make the biggest mound of mushies or a shit load of 12 quart trays lolz


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Re: If Hpoo is the best substrate, What is the preferred spawn medium [Re: xaxphaanes]
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Everybody chill out.

Don't use chcken manure at over 5% of the total. The other ingredients, since they can each be used full strength by themselves can be mixed in whatever portions toot your whistle.
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