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Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush
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US Congressman and chair of the House Subcommittee
on Defence, John Murtha, has spoken of the possibility
of impeaching President Bush if a compromise cannot
be reached on the continued US military presence
in Iraq.
"There's three ways or four ways to influence a president.
One is popular opinion, the election, third is impeachment
and fourth is, and fourth is the purse," Murtha told CBS's
Meet the Nation.
When pressed he would only say, "What I'm saying, there's
four ways to influence a president... And one of them's impeachment." Bush has long been under fire from critics
who claim he manipulated intelligence before the invasion
of Iraq.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
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People shouldnt fear the government, the government should fear the people.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Sebastian23]
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Quote:
People shouldnt fear the government, the government should fear the people.



word......too bad the gov. basically runs the whole world with or without Bush


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
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finally someone gets the idea to impeach him.
i was hoping that would happen 2 years ago.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Phish_Dude]
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It's a nice idea and all, but nothing will change. The only difference is that Cheney will have to abandon his behind the scenes manipulation of the system and move out front. The same idiots and criminals will be in charge, just this time without their little puppet show.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
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Quote:
"There's three ways or four ways to influence a president. One is popular opinion, the election, third is impeachment and fourth is, and fourth is the purse," Murtha told CBS's Meet the Nation.



Stupid me... I thought impeachment was to be used when an elected official breaks their oath of office.  I never realized that impeachment was a tool to be used to influence elected officials.  The police state has reached the police.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Seuss]
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influence, sounds as if they are trying to extort or blackmail him.

"do what we say, or we will impeach you"

Of course, the impeachment wont go far, and they know that or it would have already been done. However, it will waste a ton of taxpayer money.

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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: trippindad82]
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Bush and Cheney are 2 heads of the same serpent. They're impeachment trials would have to be at the same time. Not that it's going to happen though. The top dems are hardly any better than bush, as I speak them weak pussies are talking about a "compromise" on the war funding bill. Benchmarks are a total load of crap, more so than even impeachment talk.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: RosettaStoned]
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> The top dems are hardly any better than bush, as I speak them weak pussies are talking about a "compromise" on the war funding bill.

They should simply let the war funding bill drop and when the proverbial shit hits the fan point to Bush's veto as the cause of the problem.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Seuss]
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That would be one good way to do it. But I have a sinking feeling in my gut bush is going to get his way.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> The top Dem's are hardly any better than bush, as I speak them weak pussies are talking about a "compromise" on the war funding bill.

They should simply let the war funding bill drop and when the proverbial shit hits the fan point to Bush's veto as the cause of the problem.



Its a lie.

Do you really think the Dem's want to stop the war in early 2008, it becomes a moot point at election time. They want this war to be going badly as possible in November 2008,


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: lonestar2004]
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> Do you really think the Dem's want to stop the war in early 2008, it becomes a moot point at election time.

Either way, they win the spin game:

"We said we would bring the troops home, and we did, regardless of what Bush and the republican warmongers wanted."

... vs ...

"We tried to bring the troops home, but Bush and the republican warmongers wouldn't let us, so vote democrat if you want an end to the war."


I'm not claiming that I agree with the spin. Rather, I am trying to show that they can spin it into their favor regardless of what Bush does.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> Do you really think the Dem's want to stop the war in early 2008, it becomes a moot point at election time.

Either way, they win the spin game:

"We said we would bring the troops home, and we did, regardless of what Bush and the republican warmongers wanted."

... vs ...

"We tried to bring the troops home, but Bush and the republican warmongers wouldn't let us, so vote democrat if you want an end to the war."


I'm not claiming that I agree with the spin. Rather, I am trying to show that they can spin it into their favor regardless of what Bush does.



It's sick the way that shit ends up getting played out. It's almost like watching a bunch of 13 years olds duke it out in who is more cool. I agree with you that they don't want the war to end until the election, but I don't even see it ending there. One of the top candidates for the democrats, Hillary Clinton, is already beating the war drum for Iran. Didn't we already learn our mistake with Iraq? IMO, the US is one of the biggest causes of instability in that region. Sure, there are other underlying causes, but we are the match that is setting the shit to fire. It doesn't matter who gets elected, whether democrat or republican, we are still going to have the same agenda continue on.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: RosettaStoned]
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RosettaStoned said:
Bush and Cheney are 2 heads of the same serpent. They're impeachment trials would have to be at the same time. Not that it's going to happen though. The top dems are hardly any better than bush, as I speak them weak pussies are talking about a "compromise" on the war funding bill. Benchmarks are a total load of crap, more so than even impeachment talk.




IMO, it just continues to show that there is no real control amongst the people of the US, but more from the corporations who are making $$$. War is nothing more than profit to someone. While we continue to have this attitude or lack of caring, we will always have a war of some sort, whether it's a war on terrorism or drugs or cancer or HIV. None of them will ever be won because too many jobs exist as a direct result of lies.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
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i love how they come up with headlines. read what the guy actually said.


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: wilshire]
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i think an impeachment for dick and bush is important....we're gonna let this party stay ruling this country all the way until 2009!! You know wut they could fuck up with all that time....


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Re: Top Democrat Speaks of Impeaching Bush [Re: FoURtWeNTy420]
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you gotta be 18 to post here.


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