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Meditation experience (need help)
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Ok, i've been getting into the roll of meditation recently a lot. Trying it daily. I went a purchased a Amethyst crystal (necklace) supposed to help with meditation. (got it more for a symbol than anyhthing) But I tried it, holding it in my hands during meditation.

Now... I hit a meditave state thats for sure, it starts with my face tingling, and I cant move my facial muscles, then hands (where I was holding the crystal) were buzzing intensly (almost a muscle falling asleep type feeling, but slightly different)then it went up my arms, filled my chest, them my stomach got it, and started "contracting" like sucking inwards with each inhale, and the buzzing (energy???) kept getting more and more intense. Then I hit the point where my whole body felt like this, but then my father rudely knocked on my door for something unimportant, and it knocked my out of my meditation, but it was hard for me to talk, move or anything, my hands where I was holding the crystal were like... in paralysis I could move them, but I felt an INTENSE force surrounding them, and when I'd move them, they'd go back to the way they were when I was meditating, this buzzing and paralysis lasted for about 15 minuites before it started to dissapate.

It was almost like my muscles were tensing, but I wasnt physically interfering with them.

But yeah, is this normal? is this a good sign? does this mean I'm doing the right things?

Thanks for anyones imput. Perhaps this is normal and I'm just a n00b. either way, I'd like to know the cause.

Thankyou very much for putting your time into reading my post.


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Now pick me up night and whirlwind and let me ride with you to peace of mind and nothing to rebel...

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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: GrimTroll]
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the zen guys usually get up and switch to 5 mins walking meditation every 20 minutes or so, muscles will seize when holding a new position.
the shaking partly is from concentration energy aka joy.

you can move the beads one at a time if you want to work your hands a bit I like to use ~3 seconds approximately per bead.


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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: GrimTroll]
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Why try?

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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: Gomp]
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Bad term? sorry.

and what do you mean by beads?


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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: GrimTroll]
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Rings on a string..

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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: GrimTroll]
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I believe he means a mala.
These are used to count breaths, mantras etc. The eastern equivalent of a rosary basically.


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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: Gomp]
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congratulations on your decision to learn meditation, i hope you will love it as much as we do!
i just got done meditating for one hour... :smile:

http://users.telenet.be/psy/muziek/learnmeditation/


try this mp3 file for a couple of times as a guide while u are meditating. it might help you learn yourself how to let go.

don't give up too quickly, it gets better after time

Edited by lobotomix (02/27/07 12:39 PM)

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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: lobotomix]
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lobotomix said:
http://users.telenet.be/psy/muziek/learnmeditation/


Wow, this helped me a lot this afternoon. I feel like I reached a very deep place of calm that I rarely am able to. At points my hands and legs started to feel very strange, almost ethereal. I was in shavasana (corpse position) and at one point felt as if the ground my head was lying on disappeared and I was floating in space. I feel incredibly relaxed and rejuvenated. I particularly like how he discusses the fact that there is no end to meditation at the end of the recording, that rang true to me and still does. I am still there and I will always be there (here). Thank you very much!


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Everyone of us has all we need
Sky of blue and Sea of Green
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Re: Meditation experience (need help) *DELETED* [Re: aelephant]
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Post deleted by Epigallo

Reason for deletion: Sorry.


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Re: Meditation experience (need help) [Re: Epigallo]
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Lose the crystals and focus on the breathing.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Using crystals. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I've been getting into meditation lately too. What you describe is very normal from what I understand. Since you are so new at the practice, I'd imagine it means you are at a place of particular receptivity to the flow of energy right now, or you have a very strong energy. What an exciting experience! I am going to get out my crystals right now!!!

BTW I've used crystals in proximity to growth chambers and in with plants, and I think it helps focus positve energy to their growth. I have two quartz balls (a rose and a clear) and a handful of assorted smooth gem and mineral pebbles that I arranged in a little altar around a rhutilated quartz in the center.

You should be sure you cleanse the energy of your quartz from time to time to get rid of the negative build up. It is best to do this in the sunshine for a few hours or in a clean, natural flow of water. I often do it under the tap and just focus my energy on the negative flowing out as the water runs ofer it.

http://www.wehug.com/
This site has a great selection of really beautiful crystals, and a very helpful reference library on a number of crystal and spirituality related topics http://www.wehug.com/article-index.html

I know they also make big massage wands that can also be used for meditation. They look sort of like dildoes, but I imagine they're pretty powerful haha!

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A good link. [Re: greengrrl]
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This site talks about many different ways to use crystals in meditation and healing. It also says you should do a grounding exercise (a good idea) and if you start to feel "spaced out or ungrounded" put a hematite stone next to you on the ground.:rolleyes:
http://www.crystalcreekproducts.com.au/newage/articles/linda/crystal-healing.html

Edited by greengrrl (02/27/07 07:49 PM)

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Re: A good link. [Re: greengrrl]
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the things of value are things you can find anywhere especially within yourself.

I agree that the crystals are an unnecessary extra thing
but so is a mantra.

this does not mean you should not use it,
but when it comes to important aspects, and chosing your teacher, well, if the teacher is all about crystals or other products, maybe they are really sales reps from another planet.


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Re: A good link. [Re: greengrrl]
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It looks like they sell crystals too...how convenient. All that you need is, as redgreenvines said, already within. Just worry about your focus and your presence of mind. They are free and you can save money on the crystals.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: A good link. [Re: greengrrl]
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dup

Edited by redgreenvines (02/28/07 04:23 AM)

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Re: A good link. *DELETED* [Re: redgreenvines]
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Reason for deletion: Sorry.


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Re: A good link. [Re: Epigallo]
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Go out and find a crystal. Make it a quest. Consider it a power object and invest your concentration in it. It might help at the start.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: A good link. [Re: Icelander]
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Going out to find a crystal might be a worthy task in order to be outside in nature, but as a meditational aid one would receive little help. One would be best served by focus and discipline to aid meditation. Putting energy and concentration into into existing in the moment is the best investment for this task without a doubt.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: A good link. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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Not everyone is ready for that and aids are sometimes (read Castaneda on this);) needed. I usually agree with what you have to say but often feel you have forgotten the steps you used to get to that place.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: A good link. [Re: Icelander]
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every ring is magic and every rock is alive,
things around you can be used to help steer you back to the middle way that you practice during meditation


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