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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: supercollider]
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supercollider said:
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Think of it with Robin-hood-esque nobility - Stealing from the rich, to give to the poor. Its a rejection of western globalized consumer values which we cherish unquestioningly.


I call bullshit on that. First, people who have computers and can post on the Shroomery are not poor, and don't deserve to get anything for free. Second, this Western consumer culture has given you and your friends almost everything they've ever had. If that culture were to reject THEM, they would find themselves without gas, electricity, money, or any mass-produced goods whatsoever, and they would be crying to get back in.

And if you think I sound like a rich fat capitalist, you're wrong. I've been unemployed for a year and a half now. I've got no love for Wal-Mart, and you know what I do about it? I simply don't shop there. But I don't weigh down the economic system with my unproductive lazy ass, and I don't deprive real people of the money they've earned.





Well said, supercollider :congrats:

Now why'd you have to move away from my area?  I was just getting settled in here and thinking about hitting you up with a pm, and whoooosh, you're gone :frown:


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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WhiskeyClone said:
Booooom said:
What about intellectual property?


Put that can of worms back of the shelf, boy. :mad:


Uh oh, the noble don't steal stuff people haven't bought a CD or movie in years! :lol:

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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Adden]
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S_2 said:
When those buzzers go off, just keep walking.

Theoretically, if someone touches you that isn't a police officer, that's assault. You can fight back with equal force and you would be innocent.

Also, what would the corporation rather have? A $5 product loss on a steak, or the bad press of someone getting shanked in broad daylight over a piece of meat?


But stores have the right to detain you...if they didn't then expensive jewlery stores wouldn't be allowed to have those locking doors where they buzz you in and out.

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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: JunkFood]
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Yeah, I think this has already been discussed thoroughly here before, but not matter which way you spin it it's not cool to steal.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: JunkFood]
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JunkFood said:
S_2 said:
When those buzzers go off, just keep walking.

Theoretically, if someone touches you that isn't a police officer, that's assault. You can fight back with equal force and you would be innocent.

Also, what would the corporation rather have? A $5 product loss on a steak, or the bad press of someone getting shanked in broad daylight over a piece of meat?


But stores have the right to detain you...if they didn't then expensive jewlery stores wouldn't be allowed to have those locking doors where they buzz you in and out.


They may be able to hold you until the police come but they don't have the right to search you.

I used to work for Wal-Mart and they had a strict policy. If the buzzer went off and they called you back and you willingly came back they can run their little gun (forgot the actual name) to see if it goes off. If it does they will ask you to empty your pockets or show whats in your bags. If you refuse they will call the police. However if you make it past the first exit door, then past the second one, they cannot pursue you in the parking lot. All they can do is call the police and let them deal with it.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: TM]
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i only read the inital post but thats BS.. they dont actually use security devices on meat and shit.. Loss Prevention guys are giving a beeper they can press to set off the security detectors as you walk out.. and thats what they do.

dont you think its ironic how when they catch a shop lifter.. there is already a loss prevention guy in plain clothes near-by?

ive worked for chains including Giant Eagle, Sears, Krogers, and Best Buy.. now this doesnt go for all merchandise, but for certain things.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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Yeah I've never heard of them putting security devices on any food.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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yeah, when we me and my buddy used to have our own apartment and were really strapped for cash we used to steal steak and shit all the time.. bread, cheese, whatever we needed... it was either that or go hungry... and fuck big corporations.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: PDU]
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PDU said:
we all violate our on rights by taking drugs?


seems we'd be excersizing our rights by putting int our bodies what we deem fit

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Its not that big a deal, is all im saying.


isn't it? I mean a few years ago it took a security officer watching you stick
something in your pocket and head for the door, then came the theft prevention
devices, simple enough except they sometimes dont get removed or deactivated
so you have to whip out your recipt and they check your shit, now you have
stores like walmart that treat you like a thief just because you purchased
something too large for a bag or even just at random they want to check you over
well, we as a society are being conditioned to accept this sort of thing


in this state, it's simple, they have to catch you between the registers and the
door, to detain you they have to arrest you (citizens arrest) and call for the
cops to make the arrest official, the security officer doesn't have the power
to preform a search, the cops do, they'll do the search and wont arrest you if
you are clean liability now falls on the store.


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If it happened to you, would you be taking them to court?


yes, everyone is entitled to a mistake, a second would land them in court


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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Banez said:
fuck big corporations.


nickle and dimeing them isnt fucking them, it's the big suits that tell them to get fucked


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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Some places DO put those things on the meat


http://www.packworld.com/view-18468

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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah but not giving them any of my money is really the most i can do to "stick it to the man".. and im content with that.. i love supporting my local stores.. even if they are a little more expensive at times.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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y0u can wander around walmart looking suspicious, they detain you and you sue

loads of lawyers will do it on a contingent


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Boom]
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That shit is sneaky!

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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
y0u can wander around walmart looking suspicious, they detain you and you sue

loads of lawyers will do it on a contingent


thatd be hysterical.. they arent allowed to detain you until they physically see you shoplift though, right?


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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Stealing is bad. I used to steal expensive clothes from Finland. Got busted two times. Once I had to stay in prison for 24 other time for 48 hours in single cell. Now I own Finlands government I don't even know how many hundreds of euros. 
On that period I stoled a lot. Almost everyday for more than $15. Now I haven't stolen a thing about an year. I can't steel anymore. I can't even imagine how I was able to steal so much without feeling any fear of getting busted :shrug: .


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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Banez said:
Prisoner#1 said:
y0u can wander around walmart looking suspicious, they detain you and you sue

loads of lawyers will do it on a contingent


thatd be hysterical.. they arent allowed to detain you until they physically see you shoplift though, right?


generaly they arent allowed to physically detain you unless you pose a threat or
they have placed you under arrest, it's a citizens arrest, they really are done.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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he should have ran

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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: johnjohnson]
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johnjohnson said:
he should have ran


exactly, they arent allowed to physically touch you or impede you leaving.. and they def cant follow you once you are off the stores premises.

i guess they could review the security tapes and get your license plate number though.


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Re: Witnessed A Guy Get Busted For Shoplifting Tonight! Supermarkets Are Smart! [Re: Banez]
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supercollider and WoodsCall -

I hear what you guys are saying totally. I do not steal, and do not feel its my right to steal, However, if a mother who works, has 2 kids and a deadbeat dad - steals spices or whatever from Walmart, im not on a moral high horse about that.

Its not something that really concerns me i guess. Props to my best friend for conning the corporations into getting free pot growing supplies, mushroom growing supplies, Solar Panels, inverters, stereos, electronics, etc.

I've always been straight up. I like supporting local businesses and buying local or at least Canadian products when i can (especially food). I pride myself on my ability to pay for everything i have, and need, and on my ability to shop consciously and wisely. <-- Just to be clear!

Ok, fine, so stealing from walmart effects its stockholders? - are you really concerned with the profits of WALMARTS stockholders?

Ok fine, if you are... Im not, and dont think its wrong to steal from walmart. Walmart has done the world more harm than good in my opinion with their globalized big box strategic marketplace, They standardize individual market places, etc.

Anyways, whatever, we have different ideologies. Props to the kid who steals from walmart!


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