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Asante
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The Absinthe thread
#6502350 - 01/27/07 01:56 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread is intended for discussion of Absinthe, the spicy aperitif from the 1800s.
Which brands did you like, which did you hate? Do you distill your own? What does Absinthe do for you? What is the right moment to drink Absinthe? How often/how much Absinthe do you drink? What is your take on Absinthe and health? Do you have Absinthe tips for us?
Let's discuss Absinthe!
Sources discussion is not allowed. We all know you can often successfully buy Absinthe online, but let's not discuss these vendors, nor name them, nor link to them. Find your own sources!
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502360 - 01/27/07 02:04 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off - don't EVER drink Absinthe neat. Absinthe should be diluted with 3-5 volumes of water, preferably sweetened with sugar.
How to drink Absinthe with style is explained in the attached Flash file, which shows you exactly how it is done.
Do not use the element of fire in preparing absinthe. That "Bohemian tradition" was invented in the olden days of the 1990s, it is backed by ZERO traditions. It is wasteful, gives the absinthe a bad taste and is shocking to behold for one who likes absinthe.
Edit: the attached file works now!
Edited by Asante (01/27/07 03:08 PM)
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502373 - 01/27/07 02:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why do you say "never" drink it neat? Sure its easyier with water, but neat is interessting too.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: G a n j a]
#6502381 - 01/27/07 02:15 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Drinking absinthe neat is like drinking lemonade syrup neat - it is made to be diluted, only dilute (and in my view, sugared as well) will the bouquet develop.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502399 - 01/27/07 02:23 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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what brand do you enjoy?
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Actual brands are all pretty tame. The most interessting are home made.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: G a n j a]
#6502437 - 01/27/07 02:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think i read Russia had the best brands cause it originates their. is their any truth to this?
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: G a n j a]
#6502468 - 01/27/07 02:54 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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what brand do you enjoy?
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Actual brands are all pretty tame. The most interessting are home made.
Very true - homemade is where it is at! And with a wok still, most people can secure what they need (the right herbs and vodka to first steep, and then distill it with) legally and entirely offline if they want.
If you want to buy absinthe prepare to shell out the big bucks, and be VERY CHOOSY about where you buy, because prices on many sites are outrageous.
It is also very important WHAT you buy, because most brands simply do not taste like an Absinthe and are not made like an absinthe. Unlike any other drink there with Absinthe is a big risk that what you're getting simply isn't absinthe, because many companies with no Absinthe tradition simply slap together a concoction and call it absinthe, not hindered with any authenticity. Its like you buy a bottle of cola and there's ice tea inside.
I've compiled a small list of absinthes that are recommended over and over on the more reputable absinthe sites, and which have in fact won prizes on the "Absinthiades" which is the absinthe equivalent of the Cannabis Cup.
To avoid you getting ripped off, I've included prices which you would pay for these bottles in an European liquorstore, and in some online deals (minus p&p ofcourse)
These are all absinthes that were distilled using actual herbs, and all are comparable to quality absinthes which you would pay dearly for in the 1800s.
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GENERALLY RECOMMENDED ABSINTHES:
Absinthe Duplais Balance 60% ($30/0.5 liter)
Absinthe Montmartre 65% ($37.50/0.5 liter)
Versinthe, La Blanche, 57% ($30/0.5 liter)
François Guy, 45% ($35/0.5 liter or $60/liter)
Jade Nouvelle-Orléans 68% ($75/0.5 liter or $100/liter)
Jade Verte Suisse 65% ($75/0.5 liter or $100/liter)
Jade PF 1901 ($75/0.5 liter or $100/liter)
Jade Edouard 72 ($75/0.5 liter or $100/liter)
--------------------------------------------------------------All these absinthes are considered to be good quality "real" absinthes. It is easy to pay the same or more for something that is utter rubbish.
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Absinthe originates in Switzerland. Swiss and French absinthes have always been the best, Spanish absinthes tend to vary on the theme a lot and the Czech or East European countries have no absinthe tradition at all, and what their distillers call "absinthe" most often in no way resembles real absinthe.
Just like you'd want your cheese from Holland and your tobacco from Virginia, you'd want your Absinthe from France or Switzerland.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502516 - 01/27/07 03:19 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I went to botanical gardens today and got a wormwood cutting. Was wondering what the best way to make extract is on this stuff. Hear you can smoke it and gets you high like weed. I've also read that it might not have any hallucination like effects at all.
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Don't do that.. thuijone is quite toxic and not that interesting... Its the synergy in the absinthe thats the key.. Smoking it is just another one of those "legal highs" that just leaves you with an headache..
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502659 - 01/27/07 04:43 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's your opinion on the essence?
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Just like you'd want your cheese from Holland...
The cheese-makers of Wisconsin say that Holland's cheese is nowhere as good; haven't tried it myself.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502701 - 01/27/07 05:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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In the video it says to add "three meazurez ouf wateur"
Does that mean its a 1 part absinthe, 3 parts water mixture? ...with a little sugar.
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What's your opinion on the essence?
Well, the real thing would be distilling herbs and alcohol together to yield an absinthe. Essences are added to alcohol of the right strength.
This obviously is an inferior procedure, but in the days of Absinthe's greatest popularity it was the most common way to prepare it.
An essence-absinthe is as good as the essence itself. If you look at much what is marketed as absinthe today, then a good essence can definitely be lightyears ahead of it in quality.
So if people got a good brand of essence and use fine alcohol and distilled water to mix an absinthe, I have little reservations.
Absinthe preferably should be kept in the dark for six months to "ripen". This can be greatly helped by adding a bit of oakwood (not bark!) to it, and shaking it full of air before the storage.
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In the video it says to add "three meazurez ouf wateur"
Does that mean its a 1 part absinthe, 3 parts water mixture? ...with a little sugar.
I love that guy's accent Absinthe is to be diluted with 3-5 parts icecold water.
I myself dilute 1 ounce of absinthe with 3 ounces water, sweetened with 1-2 lumps of sugar (you could simply use 5-10% sugar in water for convenience) and this with my homemade 68 makes it to 17% alcohol, a bit like Port in strength.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6502788 - 01/27/07 05:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love absinthe! I have tried Absente, the crap north american "absinthe", and Montmarte, and a few which I did not know the names of. Have you tried Ted Breaux's absinthes? Im heading over to europe this march break, going to bring back a bottle hopefully! But all in all, abstinthe is a great drink that is definetly meant to be diluted, and it is also a mysterious drink, one with interesting history and controversy. Bohemian absinthe OR Bohemian absinthe rituals = Burning absinthe or sugarcubes is such a waste.
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Has anyone tried wormwood or it's extracts. It's a lot easier to get than absinthe and supposedly responsible for its hallucinogenic effects.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: House]
#6503046 - 01/27/07 07:58 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's a lot easier to get than absinthe and supposedly responsible for its hallucinogenic effects.
There are no hallucinogenic effects.
Absinthe is taste. Then it is alcohol. Only then is it a bit more than that.
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Asante]
#6503053 - 01/27/07 08:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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then why was it banned in, like, every country of the world?
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Re: The Absinthe thread [Re: Muppet]
#6503243 - 01/27/07 08:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because of propaganda, and because people STILL believe that it has hallucinogenic effects...I cant even tell you why, there is no real concrete reason, its just BANNED. The law is so dumb sometimes.
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apparently so
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