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OfflineJalruza
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Parallel incarnations theory
    #5894122 - 07/24/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Me and Gomp have been activly debating about this last night.

I still dont know what to make of this. But this theory is that you have a soul and your soul is living parallel incarnations on the planet at this moment in time. Maybe 100s of them if not 1000s?

I was wondering what do you all think about it

Firewors of god, what do you think about it?

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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Jalruza]
    #5894127 - 07/24/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Jalruza said:
this theory is that you have a soul and your soul is living parallel incarnations on the planet at this moment in time. Maybe 100s of them if not 1000s?




Not a soul exactly, and not 100s and 1000s but an infinite amount. You're getting there though.

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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Jalruza]
    #5894156 - 07/24/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well I think you'd be hard pressed to support the idea that we have some sort of soul, outside of some romantic poetic ideation.

The soul is generally considered to be some permanent self that continues on after death. But, when we look; when we REALLY look, there is no trace of any self whatsoever. The self or the soul is made up entirely of not-self and not-soul elements.

In this context, yes, the same kinds of elements make up everything, so we have countless incarnations all across the universe, even at this very moment.


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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Fractalated]
    #5894697 - 07/24/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am me, a unique mind, a unique physical body,

my brain isn't my mind

I'm a machine but yet I'm alive and aware, what defines being alive

can machines become alive if programmed to be aware of itself,

can you program free will, you can program deduction and logical

choice, but can you program creation or ideas, within a machine, can

you program dreams or feelings within a robot , I can't say that I'm

completely robotic meaning all my physical mechanisms isn't

completely the sole reason why I'm alive, I don't know what the "soul"

is but I'll attribute that unknown that bridges the gap between my

physical mechanics and life as being the soul,

and perhaps if I have a soul, as that soul is me, is the real me, but

even if the soul is me, and I die lose my identity, how does the soul

distinguish itself as being me, the unique soul that embodies who I

am, what are souls? are souls even apart from the physical state,

meaning they bridged the gap to give you life but is it separate from

your body, what determined where the souls go, and sense we have

telepathic powers or we interconnected, what separates the soul, or

creates a soul apart from the whole, before I was alive, I wasn't

aware of myself, not unless my memory was erased, meaning my previous

identity if I had one, was somewhat extinguished, to me it becomes

really realitive, maybe birth is what creates a soul as much as it

creates my body and my mind, from apart of these the soul wouldn't

exist because it wasn't self aware, and if it was me, then it didn't

matter, because what I was, was something that wasn't self aware, meaning

I essentially didn't exist but yet if I did, I existed in some

unaware form, but

yet I didn't because I wasn't conscious, at least not as who I

am now, and with that said, I could

essentially be anything

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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Jalruza]
    #5895042 - 07/24/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think it is certainly a possibillity, although I'm not aware of much that I could use to come to a greater understanding of the possibillity.

I've had experiences involving others, who have verified the exact nature of the experiences, that speak of a certain connection between at least two individuals which could suggest a parallel incarnation, but all I know is the experience itself, and what the other person involved described about the experience.

So, maybe? :shrug: All I can say is keep an open mind and be aware, and what can be known will be known. :wink:

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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: it stars saddam]
    #5895154 - 07/24/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
Quote:

Jalruza said:
this theory is that you have a soul and your soul is living parallel incarnations on the planet at this moment in time. Maybe 100s of them if not 1000s?




Not a soul exactly, and not 100s and 1000s but an infinite amount.  You're getting there though.




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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Gomp]
    #5895317 - 07/24/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard that your spirit is divided into many souls that live in all types of reality not just this one simultaneously. And when you die in this reality you somewhat start in a reality in one of those others. These other realities also could be of this reality in the past. Which would show that time is but a made up concept.


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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: capliberty]
    #5896623 - 07/25/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Interesting reasoning. I agree that the conceptualized soul is more like an idealist version of your being. It seems strange that if each person has a soul that has continued on from a past life, where are all the new souls coming from, as there has definitely been a spike in the population since the dawn of man.


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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5896630 - 07/25/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I've had experiences involving others, who have verified the exact nature of the experiences, that speak of a certain connection between at least two individuals which could suggest a parallel incarnation, but all I know is the experience itself, and what the other person involved described about the experience.

I'm quite intrigued. Could you elaborate?

I've had and have heard of experiences which suggest many connections on levels far deeper than we're immediately aware of, but I have yet to come across one that suggests the existence of souls or something like parallel incarnations. So if you could elaborate I would be honored.


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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Fractalated]
    #5897041 - 07/25/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Parallel - never intersecting, if its never intersecting, then it must

share a common characteristic, that

both share the same direction

incarnation - reborn variable to form

parallel incarnation - being reborn variable to form on non

intersecting planes with a common direction, the direction never

diverges or converges into each plane of existence, so if there is a

connection, there has to be a plane that intersects both because it

doesn't share the same direction, but shares a common point with each

plane, that point is distinct, and only at this point is where the

connection is made for that particular intersecting plane, of course

there can be other intersecting planes, the one thats completely

perpendicular, is the most direct path between the parallel,

I do think with all this said, that space is a subspace of a bigger

space in which that space can be intersected by other subspaces,

creating a connection,

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Re: Parallel incarnations theory [Re: Fractalated]
    #5897061 - 07/25/06 03:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Fractalated said:
I've had and have heard of experiences which suggest many connections on levels far deeper than we're immediately aware of, but I have yet to come across one that suggests the existence of souls or something like parallel incarnations. So if you could elaborate I would be honored.




Firstly, I'm not declaring what the experiences represent - I'm simply aware of the experiences and that which the other person intimately involved experienced. :wink:

I prefer not to discuss the specifics of the experiences, though. I've several times attempted to make a post concerning the last acid trip that I had (which was incredibly profound, transcendent, lack of appropriate adjective), which is one of the experiences, but I simply cannot express it in a way that will represent it, and I've regarded the experience as such a personal matter that I've decided to just keep my mouth shut. :wink:

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