Dimmy said: With people talking about the recent events in the middle east, I'm really surprised to see how many shroomerites are blatantly anti-semitic and anti-Israel.
I see people defending Hezbollah and Hamas. Claiming they are not terrorist organizations.
The term Terrorist is subjective and is interchangeable with the term Freedom fighter depending on your point of view.
Dimmy said: I see people shit talking Israel and accusing it to be a terror state.
I see people making inflammatory anti-semitic remarks.
goddamn, i would have never expected this from the shroomery.
The shroomery has been filled with anti Muslim sentiment for years now. I did a thread search and failed to find any posts where you criticized examples of derogatory or biased opinion toward Arabic or Muslim people.
Dimmy said: Hezbollah has launched about 1000 missiles at civilian targets so far during this war. Hamas has facilitated many suicide bombings that have killed many innocent men, women, and children.
How many shells and missiles has Israel fired into Lebanese civilian areas during the same time? Why does Israel target infrastructure that is essential for the health and safety of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians? eg: Power stations, roads and ports? Hamas would cease suicide attacks tomorrow if they were armed with helicopter gunships and military jets. They use the limited means available to them just as Israel uses the military hardware supplied by other nations to the full extent.
Dimmy said: This whole conflict is in response to Hezbollah kidnapping Israeli soldiers and firing upon Israeli cities. If thats not an act of war, i don't know what is.
Israel has been kidnapping foreign nationals, particularly Palestinians under the false guise of legal arrest and imprisonment for years. Yet when the reverse happens, Israel responds by starting a war.
Dimmy said:Its true Israel unfortunately kills civilians but there is a huge difference between intentionally targeting innocent people like Hezbolla and Hamas and killing civilians as a part of collateral damage when Israel strikes strategic and terrorist targets.
Please explain what difference it makes to those who are killed and the families involved? Also keep in mind that during this conflict, over 90% of Lebanese casualties have been civilians. Do you find that statistic acceptable?
My previous comment regarding resources is also applicable here, Hamas and hezbolla use suicide attacks and crude rockets because that's all they have available. Give them some of your modern war planes and tanks and see if they still use their old methods!
Quote: Dimmy said: Lets also not forget how these terrorist group set up their bases and weapons stock piles in apartment buildings, schools, and hospitals. This is done intentionally so if Israel tries to hit these targets there would likely be civilian casualties causing negative publicity.
Are you going to tell me that Israel has no military infrastructure in or near it's own populated areas? Do you honestly think that hezbolla should be expected to move all of it's very limited military hardware and fighters into open areas so that Israeli jets can destroy them? Most of the footage taken from Israeli jets showing the destruction of hezbolla missile launcher has clearly shown that the rockets were being fired from non urban sites.
Dimmy said: How else should Israel, a sovereign country, defend itself? Should it sit quietly while it is attacked day in and day out? How can you negotiate with someone that wants to kill you and take your land?
The actions of the Israeli government have been offensive not defensive in this current conflict, Israel chose to initiate fighting with hezbolla by launching the first attacks against southern Lebanon, it is hezbolla that are defending themselves from aggression started by Israel.
Dimmy said: people say that these Arab terrorist just want their own land but, thats just bullshit. Israel had pulled out of Gaza and designates the entire west bank for Arab Israelis. The pure and simple truth is that these Arab terrorist hate Jews and hate Israel and wont be satisfied until both are destroyed. they say so themselves and, whats worse is that most of the Arab populous supports them. They follow a religion that supports violence and rewards the spilling of infidel blood.
While it's true that Israel has been kind enough to "designate" land to the Palestinians that the Palestinians already owned, Israel has continued to follow a policy of building settlements in the occupied territories. Why do you think they are called the "occupied territories"?
It's true that some among the Muslims are fanatics wishing to deny the Israelis a state but the same can be said for ultra orthodox Jews opposing a Palestinian state.
Dimmy said: These are the same people who celebrated in the streets when America was attacked on 9/11.
I just don't understand how some of my fellow shroomerites say some of the things they do. It really disgusts me.
I don't understand how you can say some of the things you do.
Atrocities have always been common on both sides of the Arab/Israeli conflict, neither side is innocent of brutality. Please try and look at the broader view and quit pretending that Israel is a paragon of virtue which can do no wrong.
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but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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