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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5882148 - 07/20/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dimmy said: Lets also not forget how these terrorist group set up their bases and weapons stock piles in apartment buildings, schools, and hospitals. This is done intentionally so if Israel tries to hit these targets there would likely be civilian casualties causing negative publicity.
Its called military strategy...
And Israels attacks on the actual infrastructure like water towers and power plants have caused a pretty bad humanitarian crisis.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Afroshroomerican]
#5882171 - 07/20/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: It's pretty simple actually.
Most people who are into the "drug culture" lean toward the Left-Wing of the political spectrum. One of the hallmarks of the extreme Left-Wing is the hatred of the strong and the love of the weak. Corporations are bad...small mom and pom stores are good. White people are bad....black people are oppressed victims. Israel (with its powerful and modern military) is bad....and all Arab militia movements (with low-tech weapons) are good. etc.. etc..
They have an unreasonable and misguided love of the "underdog" in every situation.
I think he pretty much summed up your questions here. great post.
Hmm, except NOT in my case. Ive been a member of the so called drug-culture for over 20 yrs now and I dont on principle lean towards the left, I dont hate the strong and love the weak, I dont hate corporations on principle, I dont think black people are oppressed and I dont think have any love for either Jews or Arabs. Fuck, you believe much bullshit. Up your ass for sterotyping me you prejudice fuck.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Gratos]
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RandalFlagg said: It's pretty simple actually.
Most people who are into the "drug culture" lean toward the Left-Wing of the political spectrum. One of the hallmarks of the extreme Left-Wing is the hatred of the strong and the love of the weak. Corporations are bad...small mom and pom stores are good. White people are bad....black people are oppressed victims. Israel (with its powerful and modern military) is bad....and all Arab militia movements (with low-tech weapons) are good. etc.. etc..
They have an unreasonable and misguided love of the "underdog" in every situation.
I think he pretty much summed up your questions here. great post.
Hmm, except NOT in my case. Ive been a member of the so called drug-culture for over 20 yrs now and I dont on principle lean towards the left, I dont hate the strong and love the weak, I dont hate corporations on principle, I dont think black people are oppressed and I dont think have any love for either Jews or Arabs. Fuck, you believe much bullshit. Up your ass for sterotyping me you prejudice fuck.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: MasterOfTheToys]
#5882577 - 07/20/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dimmy writes: "When it comes to arab extremest in the middles east, the only accurate term to use is terrorist. "
That's true. But what is also true is that the United States are terrorists under the definition you provided.
This isn't opinion, this is historical record.
"A freedom fighter fights for... freedom and better conditions. The vast majority of the rhetoric used by organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah is not about the need for better infrastructure, but the need to destroy israel and the jews."
This is not at all true. What you're doing is placing a western fixation on rhetoric over substance. The simple fact is that Hezbollah has provided infrastructure such as schools and hospitals which we can all agree are "better conditions." That they have a militant wing means ...what, exactly? So do we.
I'm not saying that Hezbollah isn't a terrorist organization. I'm saying we are too.
"why destroy infrastructure? Because its a fucking war and thats what you do in a war. "
So the WTC was fair game in your opinion? After all, al Queda was clearly at war with us. And it wasn't declared on 9/11. Remember the USS Cole?
I'm only asking for consistency.
"There is a difference between detaining known terrorist and kidnapping soldiers."
It's ok to kidnap someone because they're a terrorist. And they're a terrorist because we say so. It's not ok to kill soldiers because they're not terrorists. And they're not terrorists because we say so.
I think I got it.
"I can't believe how no matter what happens, its always israel fault."
No, the fault belongs to every single party in the region. I'm anti-death. If you violate that, I'm not a fan anymore. It's really that simple.
"why not give osama a nuke?"
I think what Dimmy is trying to say is that crude measures are the only option available. Put another way, if my country was occupied like some of these people's countries are occupied, I'd be responding in the same way.
Wouldn't you?
"I've never seen the IDF hide its warheads in an apartment building, oh yeah! thats because the IDF aren't terrorists. "
Right, the IDF demolishes houses of people with no involvement in terrorist activities.
Again, not saying that Hamas is populated with angels. I'm pointing out that there is another side to this. Which you seem to be missing completely.
"Aggression started by israel? what the fuck are you talking about. Try reading a paper or watching the news for once. This conflict started in response to kidnapped soldiers and missile attacks against israel. "
This is a popular myth which can be shown for one simply by speaking it out loud; the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel started when that soldier was kidnapped?
Really??
Perhaps it is you that should do some reading.
Tell me -- and be honest -- when was the last time you actually sat down and listened to Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah talk at any length about this war? I don't mean a 10-second sound byte on CNN, I mean actually sat down and listened to a whole interview.
What strikes me as odd is your arguing with Israel-is-the-root-of-all-evil types by taking a Hezbollah/Hamas-is-the-root-of-all-evil position.
I'm reminded of two cripples, fighting.
" It's true that some among the Muslims are fanatics wishing to deny the Israelis a state but the same can be said for ultra orthodox Jews opposing a Palestinian state."
This is untrue. The Muslims just don't want it to be in Israel. In fact Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, suggested they be in Germany.
"I'm pretty sure israel completely pulled out of Gaza several months ago but, for some reason Hamas still found it necessary to kidnap a soldier."
And yet you're not curious enough to find out why it happened? What do you suppose? Shits and giggles?
"So it turns out that even with the opportunity to build a new sovereign country free of any israeli control, they still couldnt give up old habits. "
Yeah. The refusal of Israel and the U.S. to deal with the democratically-elected government wouldn't have anything to do with it...
adjust writes: "What will satisfy the arab world other than putting all israelis into a large boat and sinking it?"
The Jews being given a homeland anywhere else might suit them just fine. Let's not go overboard.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: splifner180]
#5882786 - 07/20/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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splifner180 said: Dimmy writes: "When it comes to arab extremest in the middles east, the only accurate term to use is terrorist. "
That's true. But what is also true is that the United States are terrorists under the definition you provided.
This isn't opinion, this is historical record.
"A freedom fighter fights for... freedom and better conditions. The vast majority of the rhetoric used by organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah is not about the need for better infrastructure, but the need to destroy israel and the jews."
This is not at all true. What you're doing is placing a western fixation on rhetoric over substance. The simple fact is that Hezbollah has provided infrastructure such as schools and hospitals which we can all agree are "better conditions." That they have a militant wing means ...what, exactly? So do we.
I'm not saying that Hezbollah isn't a terrorist organization. I'm saying we are too.
"why destroy infrastructure? Because its a fucking war and thats what you do in a war. "
So the WTC was fair game in your opinion? After all, al Queda was clearly at war with us. And it wasn't declared on 9/11. Remember the USS Cole?
I'm only asking for consistency.
"There is a difference between detaining known terrorist and kidnapping soldiers."
It's ok to kidnap someone because they're a terrorist. And they're a terrorist because we say so. It's not ok to kill soldiers because they're not terrorists. And they're not terrorists because we say so.
I think I got it.
"I can't believe how no matter what happens, its always israel fault."
No, the fault belongs to every single party in the region. I'm anti-death. If you violate that, I'm not a fan anymore. It's really that simple.
"why not give osama a nuke?"
I think what Dimmy is trying to say is that crude measures are the only option available. Put another way, if my country was occupied like some of these people's countries are occupied, I'd be responding in the same way.
Wouldn't you?
"I've never seen the IDF hide its warheads in an apartment building, oh yeah! thats because the IDF aren't terrorists. "
Right, the IDF demolishes houses of people with no involvement in terrorist activities.
Again, not saying that Hamas is populated with angels. I'm pointing out that there is another side to this. Which you seem to be missing completely.
"Aggression started by israel? what the fuck are you talking about. Try reading a paper or watching the news for once. This conflict started in response to kidnapped soldiers and missile attacks against israel. "
This is a popular myth which can be shown for one simply by speaking it out loud; the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel started when that soldier was kidnapped?
Really??
Perhaps it is you that should do some reading.
Tell me -- and be honest -- when was the last time you actually sat down and listened to Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah talk at any length about this war? I don't mean a 10-second sound byte on CNN, I mean actually sat down and listened to a whole interview.
What strikes me as odd is your arguing with Israel-is-the-root-of-all-evil types by taking a Hezbollah/Hamas-is-the-root-of-all-evil position.
I'm reminded of two cripples, fighting.
" It's true that some among the Muslims are fanatics wishing to deny the Israelis a state but the same can be said for ultra orthodox Jews opposing a Palestinian state."
This is untrue. The Muslims just don't want it to be in Israel. In fact Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, suggested they be in Germany.
"I'm pretty sure israel completely pulled out of Gaza several months ago but, for some reason Hamas still found it necessary to kidnap a soldier."
And yet you're not curious enough to find out why it happened? What do you suppose? Shits and giggles?
"So it turns out that even with the opportunity to build a new sovereign country free of any israeli control, they still couldnt give up old habits. "
Yeah. The refusal of Israel and the U.S. to deal with the democratically-elected government wouldn't have anything to do with it...
adjust writes: "What will satisfy the arab world other than putting all israelis into a large boat and sinking it?"
The Jews being given a homeland anywhere else might suit them just fine. Let's not go overboard.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: dickdeadly]
#5882988 - 07/20/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Arbitrarily giving Jews a homeland elsewhere will never happen, it's not an option, the land they are on is their historic homeland. These militant Islamic groups want to wipe out the state of Israel, "push it into the sea." The Israelis pulled out of Lebanon six years ago, they pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians have their own state, yet Hamas and Hezbollah still attack Israel, and they won't stop. Not until Israel is no more, it's not about their freedom, it's about the death of Israel.
Yesterday Hezbollah killed some Israeli Arabs in Nazareth, a 5 year old and a three year old. They don't care who they kill, it reminds me of the Nazis with their V1 and V2 missals in WW2. They just launch them towards population centers, these groups are not armies, they aren't soldiers, they're terrorists. They strap themselves with bombs and board a bus during rush hour, or send a rigged car into busy intersections. They're cowards.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Redstorm]
#5883073 - 07/20/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: Israel will pwn the arab nations over and over.
For how long?
Just a few Months ago the Palestinians where throwing Rocks at the troops of Israel. Now, Hezbollah terrorist' are launching Katyusha rockets at Israeli cities......
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: gdman]
#5883094 - 07/20/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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gdman said: Arbitrarily giving Jews a homeland elsewhere will never happen, it's not an option, the land they are on is their historic homeland. These militant Islamic groups want to wipe out the state of Israel, "push it into the sea." The Israelis pulled out of Lebanon six years ago, they pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians have their own state, yet Hamas and Hezbollah still attack Israel, and they won't stop. Not until Israel is no more, it's not about their freedom, it's about the death of Israel.
Yesterday Hezbollah killed some Israeli Arabs in Nazareth, a 5 year old and a three year old. They don't care who they kill, it reminds me of the Nazis with their V1 and V2 missals in WW2. They just launch them towards population centers, these groups are not armies, they aren't soldiers, they're terrorists. They strap themselves with bombs and board a bus during rush hour, or send a rigged car into busy intersections. They're cowards.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: lonestar2004]
#5883103 - 07/20/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. 2 diffrent groups of people
2. those missles are the military equivilent of throwing rocks, they're very primitive, I could probably make a couple in an afternoon without much effort with available supplies, great for a terroist though, something they can fire willy nilly, since they don't care who they kill... women, children, fellow arabs apparently are fair game too.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: lonestar2004]
#5883196 - 07/20/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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For how long?
As long as we support them.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: gdman]
#5883240 - 07/20/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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gdman said: Arbitrarily giving Jews a homeland elsewhere will never happen, it's not an option, the land they are on is their historic homeland. These militant Islamic groups want to wipe out the state of Israel, "push it into the sea." The Israelis pulled out of Lebanon six years ago, they pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians have their own state, yet Hamas and Hezbollah still attack Israel, and they won't stop. Not until Israel is no more, it's not about their freedom, it's about the death of Israel.
Yesterday Hezbollah killed some Israeli Arabs in Nazareth, a 5 year old and a three year old. They don't care who they kill, it reminds me of the Nazis with their V1 and V2 missals in WW2. They just launch them towards population centers, these groups are not armies, they aren't soldiers, they're terrorists. They strap themselves with bombs and board a bus during rush hour, or send a rigged car into busy intersections. They're cowards.
Is it possible that it's Israel that want's to destroy the middle east? Their actions certainly back that.Their crimes against their neighbors doesnt make them out as angels.Just remember who started the whole thing. The Islamists are nothing more than the bullied pushing back.And I have dificulty taking the side of the nation that is developing a ethnic biological bomb to kill all the arabs,and made marrige with gentiles illegal.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: buckwheat]
#5883430 - 07/21/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow, the israelis recently bombed a refugee camp! Id like to commend their very humanitarian and ethical military strategy!
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5883549 - 07/21/06 02:34 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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What the US really needs to do in this conflict is air drop weed and bob marley cds... and maybe cd players, batteries, rolling papers, and lighters
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Dimmy]
#5883628 - 07/21/06 04:02 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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With people talking about the recent events in the middle east, i'm really surprised to see how many shroomerites are blatantly anti-semitic and anti-Israel.
Let's take these points one at a time.
-Blatantly Anti-Semitic.
This is a term that has been devalued by the israeli government and their supporters.
Anti semitism used to mean wishing hurt onto jews, now it seems to mean not wishing fiery death on all muslims.
-Anti Istael.
This has nothing to do with antisemitism, how much people like to conflate the two. But hey, I'm used to it. in the 1980s, the South African government called their detractors traitors to the white cause and supporters of terrorists (the ANC)
Being against a government that kidnaps people ouside of their sovereign territory is normal (true, no one cared when that shit Eichmann was taken, but the kidnap and subsequent jailing for over a decade of Mordechai Vanunu is beyond the pale) Being against a government that believes that political assasination is acceptable, is the right thing to do in my book. Being against a government that calls itself a democracy, but doesn't allow a large majority of its citizens the vote or free movement within the country is OK by me.
-I see people defending Hezbollah and Hamas. Claiming they are not terrorist organizations.
Both Hezbollah and Hamas were democratically elected. Much as we may despise their methods, not recognizing them as political parties is saying the democracy is too important to be left to the people.
-I see people shit talking Israel and accusing it to be a terror state.
See my comments about political assasination and kidnap above.
-I see people making inflammatory anti-semitic remarks.
Again, if people call for the death of all Jews, then this is wrong, if they merely apportion blame on both sides, then this is another example of the devaluation of the term antisemitism.
goddamn, i would have never expected this from the shroomery.
People tend to surprise you. Open debate includes opinions that may be unpalatable to you. The right response is reasoned debate, not invective.
Hezbollah has launched about 1000 missiles at civilian targets so far during this war. Hamas has facilitated many suicide bombings that have killed many innocent men, women, and children.
This didn't happen in a vacuum. It's a response of systematic repression of and aggression towards the arab minority. The massacres in Sabra and Shatila are but one example. Indiscriminate killing of men women and children, including foreign peace activists doesn't help either.
This whole conflict is in response to Hezbollah kidnapping Israeli soldiers and firing upon Israeli cities. If thats not an act of war, i dont know what is.
Its true Israel unfortunately kills civilians but there is a huge difference between intentionally targeting innocent people like Hezbolla and Hamas and killing civilians as a part of collateral damage when Israel strikes strategic and terrorist targets.
Whether the killing is intentional or collateral, the people are just as dead. Continued shelling of the infrasructure is guaranteed to kill huge numbers of people and destabilize Lebanon even further.
I don't see mass evacuations from Israeli soil.
Lets also not forget how these terrorist group set up their bases and weapons stock piles in apartment buildings, schools, and hospitals. This is done intentionally so if Israel tries to hit these targets there would likely be civilian casualties causing negative publicity.
That still doesn't excuse Israel from the accepted rules of international warfare.
How else should Israel, a sovereign country, defend itself? Should it sit quietly while it is attacked day in and day out? How can you negotiate with someone that wants to kill you and take your land?
As Desmond Tutu once wisely said: "You don't make peace with your friends."
people say that these arab terrorist just want their own land but, thats just bullshit. Israel had pulled out of Gaza and designates the entire west bank for arab Israelis. The pure and simple truth is that these arab terrorist hate Jews and hate Israel and wont be satisfied until both are destroyed. they say so themselves and, whats worse is that most of the arab populous supports them. They follow a religion that supports violence and rewards the spilling of infidel blood.
These are the same people who celebrated in the streets when America was attacked on 9/11.
More Islamophobic invective. If you don't approve of Anti-Semitism, then please keep your bigotry to yourself.
I just dont understand how some of my fellow shroomerites say some of the things they do. It really disgusts me.
I'm sorry, but to someone who isn't fervently supporting one side or the other in this conflict, the facts appear less black-and-white.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Dimmy]
#5883683 - 07/21/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hezbulah has captured Israeli soldiers in the past and the whole problem ended when they did a prisoner swap. This has happened a couple times in the past.
Now the saying "Give an inch and they take a mile" seems to be very fitting here. Well, Hezbulah wants a prisoner swap and I'm guessing since it worked in the past that it will work again. Israel won't settle for this bullshit and they're not going to be bitched around for a prisoner swap every time someone captures some of their soldiers.
That's my interpretation of it.
I remember Clinton trying to negotiate peace with Arafat/Palestine/Hamas(I consider them all the same) and Israel. The day after the signing of a "cease fire" there would be a suicide bombing.
I'm Jewish so I thought, "hey maybe I'll read the Jerusalem Post every day and see what's happenin in Israel." It seemed articles about suicide attacks were too common. (have in mind this was when Clinton was in office and Arafat was still around) From what I've heard, Israel has had far less suicide attacks nowadays. But I'm pretty sure the Israeli army isn't just bombing Lebanon for fun.
When I played hockey, we had an alright defense, but our offense was amazing. The aggression put on by the offense may save a couple shots at our net that could be potential goals for the other team. Keeping the opposition occupied with much offense leaves little room to regroup and retaliate.
anyhow that's my 2 cents
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: KingOftheThing]
#5883701 - 07/21/06 06:00 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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KingOftheThing said: zionists are just as bad as jihadists. they kill just as many children. only the zionists use tanks and bulldozers. the jihadists use bombs
The zionists use tanks, bulldozers, bombs, settlements. People in America are "shocked" by Hamas being voted into power because they're idiots. Western media doesn't tell us Hamas and Hezbollah build infrastructure and distribute food, while the Western-backed, basically propped-up governments do nothing and live like kings, a lot like how the US and UK governments are. People don't even bother to research this. They believe whatever CNN tells them.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Cracka_X]
#5883702 - 07/21/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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so war is a sport now?
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Pithlit]
#5883727 - 07/21/06 06:24 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pithlit said: so war is a sport now?
Just another way to look at it.
Though if you ever played any team sports and the coach gets his board out to draw out plays, they're commanding their forces.... so yes. I'll compare war to a sports, especially team sports. Much rather, a game... A sport requires physical, mental, strategical, and technical abilities. A sport would be tennis, track and field events, swimming... In a game like football, hockey, tennis, and chess; you can have your physical, mental, and technique down, but if you have poor strategy then you can be handled by a team that is far from intimidating. For example; UF vs South Carolina. Sure UF has superior facilities and knowledgable staff and they have the top recruits in the country. They develop their physique to utter greatness but Urban Meyer couldn't match the simple, yet clever, strategy of Steve Spurrier who dominated over the highly ranked Gators. --I goto UF and don't like Urban... or all his staff that have done a 180 in training at a college level.
But back from goin on a tangent... Yeah I believe war is like a sport. Paintball is a war with painballs and you'd use similar strategies as if you were in life-threatening combat.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5883922 - 07/21/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course they bombed the camp, hezbollah was hiding a base of operations in it, they seem to get off on putting their women, children, and other civilians in danger by hiding weapons and other targets of military significance in civilian homes, hospitals, etc.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: koppie]
#5884114 - 07/21/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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Both Hezbollah and Hamas were democratically elected. Much as we may despise their methods, not recognizing them as political parties is saying the democracy is too important to be left to the people.
Being elected does not all of the sudden make you "not a terrorist".
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