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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Prisoner#1]
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DimensionX said: I heard on the news today that Israel is using incendiary bombs. And why ban journalists if you have nothing to hide?
that's a very good question, why are there israeli checkpoints in gaza if israel pulled out of gaza a couple years ago
Good point, I guess we should ask the US government the same thing. Why are there checkpoints at the Mexican and Canadian border?
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: scruffymafia]
#9553076 - 01/05/09 06:49 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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You are obviously on israels because you are a blind sheep that follows the masses and listens to the propanganda.
What the fuck do you listen to? Are you seeing what's occurring firsthand? You're no less biased than anyone else here, sheep.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
#9553083 - 01/05/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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ChiefThunderbong said: The entire thing. Who did what in the 20's and what has changed since?
Thats way too much information to ever go over on a message board.
In the 20's the land that you see here....

was set aside for the creation of a Jewish homeland. Source
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: blewmeanie]
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Ok, I'm with you so far. Am I correct in assuming there might have already been a few people living in that large chunk of land that was given to the Jews by people who didn't actually live there?
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: adrug]
#9553097 - 01/05/09 06:52 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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Intifada toll Sept 2000 - Sept 2005
PALESTINIANS KILLED BY ISRAELIS
3,218 killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza including 657 aged under 18, 187 killed in extrajudicial executions and 296 (including at least 29 aged under 18) killed in the course of assassination operations.
56 killed by security forces in Israel including one aged under 18
41 killed by Israeli citizens in the West Bank and Gaza including at least three aged under 18
ISRAELIS KILLED BY PALESTINIANS
444 civilians killed in Israel including 80 aged under 18
223 civilians killed in the West Bank and Gaza Strip including 37 aged under 18
221 Israeli security forces killed in West Bank and Gaza
84 Israeli security forces killed in Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4294502.stm
Israel killed approximately 4 and a half times more Palestine's in those five years. To me this does not indicate equal culpability.
edit: closer to 3 and a half times
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9553119 - 01/05/09 06:55 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: is fighting for you life not fighting for the freedom to live?
No it is not. Fighting for your life is only that, fighting for your life. Every species on teh planet does that. Using your definition, every member of every conflict of any species is a freedom fighter.
Your just throwing in the term 'freedom' to tug at americans love of freedom as a form of persuasion. It has no practical connection to anything that they are fighting for.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: scruffymafia]
#9553124 - 01/05/09 06:55 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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scruffymafia said: So what if they did? Am i saying that a jewish state is bad? No im not.
What was left as Palestine is a sovereign country. israel has no fucking right invading it, so learn some facts or shut up.
Perhaps you should take your own advise considering no country outside of the Arab world recognizes the Gaza strip as a sovereign nation. Many of the countries in the middle east including Saudi Arabia, and Egypt don't even recognize the current government that is in power.
Egypt annexed "The Gaza Strip" (I believe in the 40's, though it may have been the 50's) and then refused to grant the people who lived there Egyptian citizenship. Hence the position that they are in now.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
#9553137 - 01/05/09 06:56 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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ChiefThunderbong said: Ok, I'm with you so far. Am I correct in assuming there might have already been a few people living in that large chunk of land that was given to the Jews by people who didn't actually live there?
Of course there where, including the Jews that already lived there.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: blewmeanie]
#9553140 - 01/05/09 06:57 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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DimensionX said: I heard on the news today that Israel is using incendiary bombs. And why ban journalists if you have nothing to hide?
that's a very good question, why are there israeli checkpoints in gaza if israel pulled out of gaza a couple years ago
Good point, I guess we should ask the US government the same thing. Why are there checkpoints at the Mexican and Canadian border?
we dont have checkpoints at the nicaragua/honduras border, seems those checkpoint if israels also lead to egypt from gaza
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: DimensionX]
#9553153 - 01/05/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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DimensionX said: Intifada toll Sept 2000 - Sept 2005
PALESTINIANS KILLED BY ISRAELIS
3,218 killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza including 657 aged under 18, 187 killed in extrajudicial executions and 296 (including at least 29 aged under 18) killed in the course of assassination operations.
56 killed by security forces in Israel including one aged under 18
41 killed by Israeli citizens in the West Bank and Gaza including at least three aged under 18
ISRAELIS KILLED BY PALESTINIANS
444 civilians killed in Israel including 80 aged under 18
223 civilians killed in the West Bank and Gaza Strip including 37 aged under 18
221 Israeli security forces killed in West Bank and Gaza
84 Israeli security forces killed in Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4294502.stm
Israel killed approximately 4 and a half times more Palestine's in those five years. To me this does not indicate equal culpability.
edit: closer to 3 and a half times
I'm not keeping "score" via bodycount. Both sides are perpetuating the violence. Both sides need to stop the violence. The only other possible ending to this is for one or both peoples to be eliminated completely. Which would you say is the more ideal option there?
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: DieCommie]
#9553155 - 01/05/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: is fighting for you life not fighting for the freedom to live?
No it is not. Fighting for your life is only that, fighting for your life. Every species on teh planet does that. Using your definition, every member of every conflict of any species is a freedom fighter.
Your just throwing in the term 'freedom' to tug at americans love of freedom as a form of persuasion. It has no practical connection to anything that they are fighting for.
so you're saying the palestinians are in fact free people?
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: scruffymafia]
#9553159 - 01/05/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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scruffymafia said: I used to work with a jewish israeli ex-patriot idf tank commander you fucking tool. How un-biased is that. I got my info straight from the source, not filtered by the jewish owened american news like the rest of the israel supporters.
So essentially you got propaganda from a single source. You're a damn fool if you think an individual's experiences can be extrapolated accurately to the whole reality.
I don't expect someone as dense as you to understand that, though. Carry on, mongoloid.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: blewmeanie]
#9553178 - 01/05/09 07:02 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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scruffymafia said: So what if they did? Am i saying that a jewish state is bad? No im not.
What was left as Palestine is a sovereign country. israel has no fucking right invading it, so learn some facts or shut up.
Perhaps you should take your own advise considering no country outside of the Arab world recognizes the Gaza strip as a sovereign nation. Many of the countries in the middle east including Saudi Arabia, and Egypt don't even recognize the current government that is in power.
Egypt annexed "The Gaza Strip" (I believe in the 40's, though it may have been the 50's) and then refused to grant the people who lived there Egyptian citizenship. Hence the position that they are in now.
well, so the israelis stole the land from palestine
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: blewmeanie]
#9553200 - 01/05/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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Why can't people understand what's done is done? Britan gave the land to Israel (it was Britan's land, not Palestinians) and Israel has tried to make do with what they have and has for the most part been very successful (albeit not without help). I cannot understand how anyone would like Palestine to take over this land, the muslims in power are delusional beyond what many, even christians, in the west would consider insane... I mean that whole 72 virgins thing? Completely batshit.
Palestine must realize they have been outdone, unfair? So what? Life's unfair isn't it. If they were to take control you could see a modern high standard society crash to the ground in months.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9553206 - 01/05/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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DimensionX said: I heard on the news today that Israel is using incendiary bombs. And why ban journalists if you have nothing to hide?
that's a very good question, why are there israeli checkpoints in gaza if israel pulled out of gaza a couple years ago
Good point, I guess we should ask the US government the same thing. Why are there checkpoints at the Mexican and Canadian border?
we dont have checkpoints at the nicaragua/honduras border, seems those checkpoint if israels also lead to egypt from gaza
The Rafah Border Crossing was built by Egypt in partnership with Israel,
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said: is fighting for you life not fighting for the freedom to live?
No it is not. Fighting for your life is only that, fighting for your life. Every species on teh planet does that. Using your definition, every member of every conflict of any species is a freedom fighter.
Your just throwing in the term 'freedom' to tug at americans love of freedom as a form of persuasion. It has no practical connection to anything that they are fighting for.
so you're saying the palestinians are in fact free people?
They were free enough to be able to launch thousands of missiles into Israel over the past few years.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: adrug]
#9553225 - 01/05/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
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DimensionX said: Intifada toll Sept 2000 - Sept 2005
PALESTINIANS KILLED BY ISRAELIS
3,218 killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza including 657 aged under 18, 187 killed in extrajudicial executions and 296 (including at least 29 aged under 18) killed in the course of assassination operations.
56 killed by security forces in Israel including one aged under 18
41 killed by Israeli citizens in the West Bank and Gaza including at least three aged under 18
ISRAELIS KILLED BY PALESTINIANS
444 civilians killed in Israel including 80 aged under 18
223 civilians killed in the West Bank and Gaza Strip including 37 aged under 18
221 Israeli security forces killed in West Bank and Gaza
84 Israeli security forces killed in Israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4294502.stm
Israel killed approximately 4 and a half times more Palestine's in those five years. To me this does not indicate equal culpability.
edit: closer to 3 and a half times
I'm not keeping "score" via bodycount. Both sides are perpetuating the violence. Both sides need to stop the violence. The only other possible ending to this is for one or both peoples to be eliminated completely. Which would you say is the more ideal option there?
I'm just trying to show that the damage committed by both sides is not equal. Its scary that you mention that one or both sides will need to be eliminated, because in my heart of hearts thats what i believe Israel is doing.
The Palestinians live on that land and have the right to defend it. Although i do accept that the tactics that some of them have used are evil. In the end i can sympathize with Palestine much more easily than i sympathize with Israel and i believe that the war they are fighting is just.
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Re: Shroomery Anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel Sentiment [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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as sad as it is, all of these religious wackjobs will all kill each other eventually. once birth control becomes more accepted in that area, all the stupid will stop procreating. buy condom company stock if you want to take advantage.
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