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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I will take another look at The Active Side of Infinity when I listen to the audio book that I have found. My last reading was several years ago.


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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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So far I would say it his his most personal account. There is a nostalgia in it and I think for him a sense of amazement and awe. If any of it is true he has lead a fine life.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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I'd like to see that clip you saw. I believe you saw it and I believe its hard for you to believe it. Like this one site said about-

Imagine being able to move like a spinning top and if someone attacks you, they will fly away from you and not be able to enter your center.


Maybe the guy you saw had some of that action going on. :lol:

The art of Aikido did develop from out of the Samurai warriors. Kublai Khan, just could not conquer the ones using it, try after try , even with his having more men and weapons, with every repeat attack.

The history and philosophies and basic techniques are in a book called, Complete Aikido-The Definitive Guide to the Way of Harmony by Roy Suenaka with Christopher Watson.

I've only taken the time to poke around it here and there. So far, a great read. Even interesting stuff is in it on breath work, which you said you have been getting into. You may want to check the book out.

I'm with dblaney in that, I do not like the violent aspects of the word warrior or idea that there is something we are at war with either. It's not conducive to our sense of peace in this world.

However, lets keep real, even though we may learn the sense of right timing and how not to provoke attack, there may be times we feel moved to protect others who aren't as able too. being able to do so non violently is a skill that could greatly come in handy in this world.

There are also times, we may find ourselves under the attack of and struggling with the enemy within the self. The ways of the inner warrior that we have developed will determine that personal outcome.
I figure, learning more about a way that is non violent and shows compassion and concern for the attacker can only serve myself and help me to serve others the best I can.

Wish there was another word for such a warrior that wasn't associated with war and violence as we think of them.

How bout Peace Maker? :wink: Gandhi fought for the independence of India from British rule and he never had to resort to violence.

Jesus fought for the liberation of the soul from it's mental shackles and prisons and never had to resort to violence.

Buddha fought for freedom from suffering and never resorted to violence. 

Oh well, I like the different definitions for aspects of it that are being shared here. :smile:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I spent years in the Martial Arts world, I saw lots of Akido practioners and instructors and went to their demos and sparred with a few. No one I saw came anywhere close to the founder of the art. He was way beyond the best. No sir, I think he was the real deal. That's rare in the Martial Arts world as it is in daily life.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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How bout it. I read that a TRUE master, has developed an even greater physical precision then that of a world class ballerina. I read its the most difficult of all of them to master the physical aspects of it.

I have no intention of doing that either. I figure, I can learn from the philosophies which apply to daily living and they do quite well. It was hard to find books at Barnes and Nobles when I was there that focused more on the philosophies themselves. This one has a good mix of all of it. I just have to get to reading more of it now. :lol:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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I believe he was so good because he embodied his philosophy of Akido. No one gets that good IMO on physical skill alone.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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I agree 100%. I read it's the ideal defensive martial art for women and children because you don't need brute physical strength and skill to be effective with it. Of course, to be effective, you have to be embodying and applying the philosophy with the physical the techniques.

Its not about the physical aspects of them anyway to me. I find that part to be just a fun way to exercise. No matter how good you are at any of it, one bullet can take you out and anyone can pull a trigger. I like applying the philosophies to other parts of life.

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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The benefit of learning the Martial Art is the conditioning of the mind and spirit. The result is a healing state of relaxation that is what self defense is all about IMO. You rarely meet as deadly a foe as your own negative conditioning. It kills most people long before their time.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (06/08/06 09:10 PM)

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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:thumbup:

:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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Or to dr. m :wink:
Eek, a warrior fool ? A fool warrior ? Warrior clown ? :whoa:
Not one for me please :grin:

A warrior knows for what he will engage and what are his goals and what is opposed and who are his opponents.
He is serving a higher context.
In that same context the Healer will fit. He is the other side of the warriors blade. He knows who and what has to be eliminated and who/what has to be restored.
Not every opponent needs devastation, as not every alley needs healing. Most it's vice versa.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

Edited by BlueCoyote (06/10/06 04:49 AM)

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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I can't see the word "warrior" without thinking "jihadist"

- both terms coming at me obliquely from other cultures packed with dual meaning, and disjointed cultural references; one meaning is personal and religious, and not in the least pugnacious, and the other meaning is vile with the pestilence of hate and destruction.

the term has to be taken out of conventional meaning to be of use here:
it has to become paradox


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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: redgreenvines]
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The Goal of the Warrior is to achieve the totality of the self, that is, to light up all the Eagle’s Emanations within the Cocoon at once and aligning them with the greater whole and thus liberate the luminosity, through the controlled manipulation of the position of the assemblage point. The art of displacing the assemblage point is termed "dreaming" and the art of positioning the assemblage point on the displaced position is called "stalking", to be understood as "becoming stalk-like and oblong, stretching into infinity. Everything, absolutely everything, is the product of a being's position of the assemblage point.
self-dialouge keeps the assemblage point static. :mushroom2:

Edited by fresh313 (06/10/06 08:16 AM)

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: fresh313]
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so ballancing stalking and dreaming
like
concentration and circulation
like taoist meditation
eagle emanations are like feathers like
thousand petalled lotus or chrysanthemum


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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: redgreenvines]
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I read book starship troopers, its better than any starwars book, Anyways these guys had these machine like bodies, they had built in sensory equipment, they could jump long distances and hover while shooting at the same time, the armor was so thick that they could take on rapid machine gun fire, also the body armor was designed to react to neurological brain impulses when moving, so all you had to do was enact the move and it would exaggerate any movement, these were bad ass warriors,LOL

Our troops today are so loaded with technology on their outfits that they kind of resemble starship troopers, I think down the line we will have super mobile combat outfits cause they're useful in close quarter combats, but also have the powerful impact compared to a tank rather than a regular ground troop.

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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A coyote isn't a fool :cryariver:
He is a peaceful warrior.
:goes on hunting his tail...


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
......................................................
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
I can't see the word "warrior" without thinking "jihadist"

- both terms coming at me obliquely from other cultures packed with dual meaning, and disjointed cultural references; one meaning is personal and religious, and not in the least pugnacious, and the other meaning is vile with the pestilence of hate and destruction.

the term has to be taken out of conventional meaning to be of use here:
it has to become paradox


Warrior has become my favorite term for what I'm trying to accomplish in my life. It really is a war but the only casuality is your awareness if one isn't ready to fight for it. Now fighting may be learning how to let go and relax or surrender. That's where the confusion comes in for many.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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I've always thought of fighting as a struggle between two or more sides.

If letting go, relaxing, and surrendering is fighting, then couldn't walking be flying? Couldn't driving be sleeping?

I think fighting may be a misnomer.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: dblaney]
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Instead of fighting, substitute struggle.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: Icelander]
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The real warrior has no need to struggle or fight anymore.
He knows where he stands and what to do.
Every opponent will fall to ashes by the simple presence of a true warrior :grin:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
......................................................
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: What is a warrior? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Do you base this on personal experience or just is it just wishful thinking?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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