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soulcircus
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5650935 - 05/19/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Obviously written by someone who has never taken a hallucinogen and has no fucking clue what it is that they are speaking negatively of. 
That is all that really needs to be said. 
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Right on. How does he know about past lives or any of the shit he's saying. Just another Religious snake oil salesman. They are a type of vampire IMO and they prey on ignorance.
Look to what you can substantiate in your own experience.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (05/19/06 05:11 PM)
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5650975 - 05/19/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some truth, and a lotta bullshit. Psychedelics produce effects of ego-death, we loose our attachments to material reality through ego-death and exist in our true state of pure spirit, or pretty close too. If we enter into this realm without a propper set and setting often times we thrash about in fear brining about all sorts of negative energy(thoughts) to our subtle bodies. When this happen we're prolonging our path by adding on karma. On the other hand with the right set and setting psychedelics can expedite your karma's workings(for the time being), through surrender, bhakti yoga, and it's up to you to continue the workings in your everyday life through meditation and yoga.
The noise bit has some truth. Noises cause us to focus our energy on stimuli. Over time you adapt to your environment and a condsiderable amount of energy goes towards receiving this stimuli and blocking out this stimuli so you can focus on other things. This is why sages and spiritual seekers often go to secluded caves or live in retreats. Not to just escape phsyical noise, but also the mental noise of living in a city and associating with materialists. When a materialist talks to you, and you listen and carry on a conversation you are being absrobed/absorbing much of their energy. You use your mind to understand where they are coming from in order to carry on a pleasant conversation, by doing so you are essentially merging with some of their karma. Beings of pure light are unaffected by all of this though, strive to be that being!
Yoganandas guru preached about the merits of mainting a spiritual life in a household envrionement. There is no need to forget about your societal obligations in order to pursue spiritual life. What good is enlightenment if you are only enlightened when you are inside of a monastery? Retreats are very beneficial but the ignorant man benefits from being near a noble sage.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5651020 - 05/19/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many people ask me for the “evidence”. Consider this: every civilisation on Earth, which used drugs collapsed to nothing within a few generations.
This is evidence? Empires fall...almost every past civilization has collapsed, and all the present ones will eventually too. What data is there to support the claim that drugs are even related to this, let alone THE causal factor!?
This person has a deep personal bias against hallucinogens, clearly. There have been a number of Yogi's who have applauded the ability of drugs to raise awareness and bring about siddhis. There have also been a number of spiritualists who have decried hallucinogens because they screw with your karma or will ruin your future lives or reasons to that extent. In my personal experience, which is really all there is to go by for issues like this, psychedelics have raised my awareness and opened up vistas I had previously been oblivious to.
For some, I imagine that they could have a profoundly negative effect. That's why set and setting are so important.
I think with things like entheogens, they must be considered on an individual basis.
As an interesting aside, Patanjali does mention drugs in his Yoga Sutras, and says nothing negative about them. In fact he says they can help you with siddhis, although those are mostly a fringe benefit of Yoga.
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5651026 - 05/19/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Noise = reality as it is being presented.
An inability to maintain awareness through noise = detrimental. 
The last comment amount musikk is full of bullshit as well. The dude sounds like a self-righteous jack off.
And what the fuck? Discos? Dude certainly isn't with the times... Sounds like a loser stuck at his parent's house, using his imagination to create bullshit about astral bodies in order to add substance to his meaningless life.
Anyone else have some degradation to hurl? 
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dang.... that's just fuked up.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5651629 - 05/19/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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pure bigotry
if drugs weren't good and useful, they wouldn't exist.
Its really that simple. Drugs, much like technology, exist for our benefit, and we should not feel guilty about using them as long as we keep our usage under control.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: DoctorJ]
#5651761 - 05/19/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DoctorJ said: pure bigotry
if drugs weren't good and useful, they wouldn't exist.
Its really that simple. Drugs, much like technology, exist for our benefit, and we should not feel guilty about using them as long as we keep our usage under control.
Are guns good?
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5651778 - 05/19/06 10:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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soulcircus said: There are no shortcuts in the spiritual and conscious evolution.
are you saying there is universal truth? that there is actually a single path that humanity is "suposed" to follow?
sounds like they think theyre way is "the" way. is there then a single goal? a unified heaven?
i regret posting already as im typing, so im stopping now.
im not sure if there is any "way"
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Edited by BleaK (05/19/06 11:04 PM)
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5651788 - 05/19/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said:
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DoctorJ said: pure bigotry
if drugs weren't good and useful, they wouldn't exist.
Its really that simple. Drugs, much like technology, exist for our benefit, and we should not feel guilty about using them as long as we keep our usage under control.
Are guns good?
Just keep your usage under control. Only shoot people on the weekends. 
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5651825 - 05/19/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I own one, but I never use it
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gettinjiggywithit said: Just keep your usage under control. Only shoot people on the weekends.  .
Go git~ em' Jiggy....! 

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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: PhanTomCat]
#5651986 - 05/20/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was being a smart ass. I agree with most of the article. The only part I disagree with is where he/she makes the damage to the auric field sound irreparable. It's not.
I saw a handful of members note "gurus" of sorts being okay with their occasional use of them to intensify a "natural ability". I bet those "gurus" also know how to prep the auric field before, a part of (set and setting)and know how to heal it up after wards if any tears or holes were made in it and how to clear out any energetic junk or parasites that may have found their way in through them.
Call all of this Bullshit if you want peeps. It's your auric field to live within.
You have Brennen's book tomcat. You saw what she sees in the fields of people who use drugs. It's a mess.
Some quickie repair maintenance techniques for those of you who use them.
Jack yourself up with the most intense feelings of unconditional love, a sense of universal oneness with all, until you are so blissed out, you blast away any parasite that may have slipped in. They CAN'T tolerate that vibration as they are only comfortable in negativity which they will start feeding you negative thoughts to think to provide the food for them if you don't get rid of them.
Next, set yourself in a violet flame to burn off any impure or toxic residual energy.
Finally, repair holes and tears by filling your field back up with a white golden light generated from out of your heart chakra. Just visualize it all and affirm what it is you are doing it for.
That's it. Will only take a minute or two that can make a HUGE difference if your care about the health of the auric field that supports your physical bodies life vitality.
Even if you don't use drugs or drink, this is good daily maintenance to run anyway as other factors can rip our fields to shreds and allow them to become polluted and infested.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5652628 - 05/20/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I will buy into some pretty weird shit, but the premise of that article was pure bullshit from what I can tell. Using hallucinogens by educated and prepared adults is not harmful and very often spiritually helpful. Please tell me how to measure the quality of the so called "astral body". The dreaming body is a construction of the mind and based on self image as far as I can tell from my experience.
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EquilibriuM
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Sure junkies and crack heads have fuckup auras....
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5652782 - 05/20/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can't measure an aura. Junkies and crack heads have bad health, but this post was addressing hallucinogens more than any other type drug. Paranormal fear mongering is really lame.
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EquilibriuM
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You cant measure it, but you can see it. And I'm saying that drug addicts have fucked up auras. Not necessary because of the drugs but maybe because of the condition that caused them to turn to drugs in the first place. "this post was addressing hallucinogens" but if you read it, he wasn't really differentiating, sure he mentioned hallucinogens but then he went on to say 'people who use drugs, this and people who use drugs that and societies who use drugs this blah blah blah.' Obviously too uninformed to know the difference.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5652816 - 05/20/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Obviously too uninformed to know the difference." Exactly. It was irrational garbage. There was a political agenda behind that weak attempt at a post.
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EquilibriuM
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I agree. propaganda. And he acts like the aura isn't constantly changing...
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