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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5652829 - 05/20/06 10:23 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll give you some aura Dora,
Right here on the floora.
Do you want some mora.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: Icelander]
#5652841 - 05/20/06 10:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5653213 - 05/20/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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EquilibriuM
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: Icelander]
#5653219 - 05/20/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5653220 - 05/20/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is that you?
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LOLLOLLOL!
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5653264 - 05/20/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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EquilibriuM said:
All one. Thou art that. He is we.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: Icelander]
#5653286 - 05/20/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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A reflection of we indeed.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5653302 - 05/20/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: theuser]
#5653518 - 05/20/06 02:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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drugs must be respected, but you cant just damage your astral body, its not possible, i mean its a non physical vessel, the worst you can do is hamper your ability to ap (or disconnect) because you have used drugs as a crutch to do it (ive done that)
but that simply takes time to fix, its not really a problem imo
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5653763 - 05/20/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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this post manages to make a lot of claims about this and that without offering any supporting evidence. if there was some actual evidence that the "astral body" is harmed by drugs and noise, or that it even exists at all, this might be more than a bunch of new-agey babble.
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5653918 - 05/20/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have held long and exhausting discussions with people who used hallucinogenic drugs. Nearly all of them were impressed by “visions”, “trips” or “hallucinations” and argued that drugs help them to increase their awareness. Actually, nothing can be further from the truth than such a statement. The ability of Astral travel is a natural ability and every child can do it. There is absolutely no need to use drugs. All you need is to learn meditation, concentration and practice them everyday.
hes right about that. meditation is alot better then drugs to increase awareness. you really can fry yourself.
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Thanks for your expert opinion. I'm sure it applies to everyone.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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I have held long and exhausting discussions with people who used hallucinogenic drugs. Nearly all of them were impressed by “visions”, “trips” or “hallucinations” and argued that drugs help them to increase their awareness. Actually, nothing can be further from the truth than such a statement. The ability of Astral travel is a natural ability and every child can do it. There is absolutely no need to use drugs. All you need is to learn meditation, concentration and practice them everyday.
hes right about that. meditation is alot better then drugs to increase awareness. you really can fry yourself.
Don't overly abuse drugs then.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: theuser]
#5654281 - 05/20/06 07:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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soulcircus: "Proof that the astral body exists lies in those who can seperate it from their physical body, i didn't beleive in it or spirituality before it happened to me."
I think the only thing your statement is proof of is that you either don't know what your talking about or you have a political agenda to preach to...probably the second of the two.
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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (05/20/06 07:17 PM)
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"hes right about that. meditation is alot better then drugs to increase awareness. you really can fry yourself."
If hallucinogens can fry a person then I would be fried. I have had near a thousand hallucinogenic experiences in my life...most at staggering doses. I am college educated, have a job that requires mental acuity, I am in good health, and my memory and judgement is top notch. Where have I been fried? This whole subject is propoganda.
-------------------- "A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: soulcircus]
#5654831 - 05/20/06 10:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The true danger of drugs, is that you will end up like this guy, dazed and confused.
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Re: True Dangers of Drugs [Re: justamonkey]
#5655375 - 05/21/06 03:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah try meditation while tripping, that will blow your fuckin mind. I understand some things this guy was saying but don't quite agree. Some of the quietest moments I've had were on a trip, things I've learned of the past were erased but the things erased were the things holding me back to be a better person. There is a thin line where drugs become something of a enlightening experience to where they become a problem. If you abuse any thing it will come back to bite you in the ass, that goes for almost any thing in life. To say that drugs caused great cultures of the world to crash and forget all knowledge is a bit to presumptuous and that would have to mean every one took drugs, but I don't know they didn't so there can never be a clear answer on that. The fact remains for me that hallucinogens have helped me and at the same time harmed me, I've been saved and scared, but both I'm happy to have because now I know better and am better off.
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Huehuecoyotl said: This whole subject is propoganda.
Exactly, and it is fucking lousy propaganda at that.
I mean, those stupid commmercials might actually have some effect at scaring the hell out of children. You know, themes like "If you do drugs, you will high dive into a pool that has no water in it". Stupid shit like that. 
All we here is that "Doing drugs and going to a disco ( ) ruins your astral body". Thanks for the tip, Captain Obvious! We all knew that one already! Don't you realize that your astral body should be destroyed? 

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