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hey im a newbie
    #564871 - 02/27/02 04:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

im doing shrooms next weekend and id like to get advice from all you people who have had experience. I want to have fun and not wind up dead or anything like that.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #564925 - 02/27/02 05:54 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

All right.

My computer crashed just as I was putting the finishing touches on a rather long post with everything I could think of to suggest. I'll have to post it all later.

In the meantime, read the Psychedelic Experience FAQ here on the Shroomery. It has most of what I was going to suggest.

http://www.shroomery.org/triptoysandsuggestions.php?doc=3


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: trendal]
    #565080 - 02/27/02 09:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I can't stress this enough be in a safe place that you're comfortable in and have somebody around who can take care of you if you start flipping or freaking out or something (although if you're eating shrooms I bet your trip won't be too hellish). Make sure you lie everything out you want to do before you eat those mushies, cause when they hit, you're going to not want to have to lie those things out. And be mellow! You can direct the trip in any way if you want if you keep your cool. Good luck.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: GringoLoco]
    #565125 - 02/27/02 09:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

dim the lights and turn on the music.. have a blast man


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #565274 - 02/28/02 12:25 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Just keep a level head man. I'm not going to lie...your going to feel different and your going to think about things differently. Put on some enjoyable music or something...watch a cool movie! Do what you love to do normally...Just be cool and have fun man...11,944(and counting) members of these forums can't go wrong!!

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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #565507 - 02/28/02 07:33 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey: Firstly...
I really hope you have a GREAT time in your first Psychedelic Weekend!!!

About winding up dead: Shrooms aren't toxic, so don't worry about that one. The only real bodily risk lies in what you or your tripping buddies (not alone the first time, please!) physically do or forget to do. Shrooming is one of the safest drug things you can do... (exept marijuana ofcourse!)

My best tip for you: Go LO on dose!!! Sure: you can eat like 3oz of fresh superstrong cubies, but most veterans I know (including me) would rather take a punch in the face than going through 6 hours of THAT intensity...
Your first time out can better leave you slightly underimpressed than overbombed.
My suggestion: Take 1-2gr dried or 10-20gr fresh (if not too weak or superstrong) and if that's too little 1 1/2hrs after eating them: eat some more, but double your dose only when it's WAY too weak, cause doubling shrooms usually means the intensity moves into a whole different ballpark...

Remember before ingesting:
1...Do it only if you feel real good.
2...have confidence in yourself AND the safety of the shroom.
3...However intense it'll be: It's just your mind & you WILL get back to (a new) Normal after it has worn off.
4...If it's highly unpleasant that'll likely be over before the 4-hourpoint, do not try to avoid feeling bad but try to experience it fully: quikest/safest way out.
5...Have I studied the Shroom enough before embarking on this Trip?

I wish you a First Trip as good as mine was! You'll probably come out of it being awestruck: It's only natural! Have fun & please post a little piece on how it was for you or submit a Tripreport...

Wish you the Best, Gonzo!!!


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #565529 - 02/28/02 08:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, i'm not going to lie to you gonzoschicken, you're probably going to die. BUT...now give me a chance here, ok? BUT, check it out.......I don't know how to finish that.

Just listen to what these other guys said.



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    #565585 - 02/28/02 10:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)



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    #565777 - 02/28/02 01:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I'll throw in a few more points that I was originally going to make, until my computer crashed while typing it out.

The most common "fear" I hear from first time trippers is always the same: "what if I have a bad trip?"

And my advice on the subject: don't worry about it! Wiccan_Seeker knows exactly what he's talking about with the dose. Yeah, there are people (myself included) who enjoy rather high doses of shrooms. But for your first time...don't go to high! One or two grams of dried is a good dose to start with.

You really shouldn't have to worry about having a bad trip at all if you're smart about how you dose. Don't take too much until you are prepared for it, and don't take it when you aren't feeling good mentally.

Just in case, though, here's some pointers on what to do if you get in trouble.

If you start feeeling scared, paranoid, angry, feel like you are going to die, or just generally not good...you may be on the bad trip road. Don't worry!!! If you think you are starting to have a bad trip...it's never too late to stop it from happening.

First of all, just don't think about it. The more you think "oh man, I hope I don't have a bad trip!", the more likely you are to push yourself into one.

Second, relax! If you feel bad, get up and move. Change the music, movie, and your surroundings. If the lights are off, turn them on. In general, try to get rid of whaterver is causing you to feel bad.

Third, don't fight it! I tried this, once. I thought I was heading into a bad trip, so I tried fighting it back as hard as I could. Big mistake. The trick is to get comfortable, get some SOOTHING music on (environmental turned low is great!), and just let your mind go blank. If you fight the trip...it will win. This is a powerfull drug we are talking about. Remember that while you are on it...you are on it!

Just sit back, relax, and tell yourself "I'm OK! I took some mushrooms, and I'm tripping. I'm not insane, and I'm not going to be like this forever. I'll be perfectly fine in a few hours."

If you have a significant other that you care about a lot (I'm lucky, I do) it might not be a bad idea to have them around, provided they are supportive of your mushroom use.

I had somewhat of a "bad trip" from some MG seeds a couple nights ago, and the only thing that went through my head was: "I want Rachel to be here. Where's Rachel?" A good friend could work wonders, too. That's where having a sober trip-sitter comes in handy. Especially if they are somewhat experienced with shrooms. Don't be afraid to let it out, if you have some emotions that are causing the bad trip. Don't try to be the macho tough-guy. If you need emotional support...ask for it. If your friends are real friends, they'll understand and jump in to help you right away.

Tripping is, by far, one of the most rewarding things you can ever do (in my opinion). You will feel things you never thought possible. Think things you never conceived before. And wow this is getting long again.

Hrm, what else.

Your best bet for location is the empty house of a friend (preferable one of the friends who is tripping with you, or the sitter's house). Make sure you won't be interrupted by other friends, family, and especially parents. Don't trip alone, but don't trip in a huge group, either. Three or four friends is a good start. Make sure you are comfortable with your friends and trust them 100%. Make sure they feel the same about you.

Movies could be a good idea. Cartoons are my favorite. Don't pick anything with that's scary! Try to stay away from movies with complex plots, too. The Disney cartoon version of "Alice in Wonderland" is a great pick. "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" is amazing, too.

Music should probably be soft, and not too loud. Environmental is good. So is soft techno, house, ect. Pretty much anything without lyrics goes great while tripping. Pink Floyd works wonders, too.

Lights out you will see a lot more. It's also easy to feel isolated with the lights out, as most people stop talking. Personally, I enjoy a trip better with the lights on. I don't see as much...but the conversations I have with my trip-buddies more than makes up for it. You wouldn't believe the insanity that comes out of some people's mouthes while tripping.

On the subject of mixing. Try not to mix for your first time. If you HAVE to mix...try a few bowls of some nice bud. Just remember that even a small ammount of bud will send you much higher than the shrooms alone. This will happen very quickly, in a matter of seconds. It may feel like it's too much, but don't worry. The "rush" tends to subside fairly quickly, leaving you on a nice peak. The best time to smoke is after your peak, at least for your first time. Somewhere around the 3 hour mark would be good. If you smoke just as the trip starts, you will get very high very fast. If you smoke during your peak, you will get a lot higher and continue to peak (amazing, but also a little too intense at times). If you smoke after your peak, you will generally start peaking again, which is one of the most amazing things to feel, especially if you had a good first peak. In my experience, you can continue this re-peaking every half our or so for at least three or four times, provided you take your initial toke just as your first peak starts to come down.

Ok, that's about it. This is getting too long.

One last thing. Try not to "plan" your trip. Don't go into it with pre-concieved notions about what is going to happen, what you are going to see, or what you are going to feel. Each and every trip you have will be unique to you. No one can tel you (hell, you can't even really tell yourself!) what is going to happen.

So don't plan it. Just take the shrooms, sit down with your friends, get comfortable, and let it all slide. Think of it as a road-trip into the unkown, and you'll do great.

Have fun, and make sure you check back here to let us know how it wen't!


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Driving you mad.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #566000 - 02/28/02 05:30 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i'm glad you're planning to enter the wonderfull, entertaining and insightful world of mushrooms. i don't know if you have experience with any other psychadellics but IMO it's hard to have a bad trip if you are in a situation that is nurturing and i recomend doing it in a place where:
1) no one will give you sh!t if they find out you are trippin
2) no one will start trouble or try to mess with your head
3) have a babysitter (someone you know well)
4) if you can, do it in a place where you can interact with nature
5) you can stay in or near the same place.(at least untill you get used to it)
6) you won't have to listening to ICP.
i hope your experience is positive and i can't stress enough that interaction and, if safely possible, imersion in nature can provide a deep and meaningful experience that will blow away any rave/party/movie. if you trip in the woods ALWAYS have a sober sitter. i have gotten lost in a one acer park in broad daylight!!!
have a safe and verry enlightening experience.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: canid]
    #566022 - 02/28/02 05:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Enjoy them Camilla!!


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: canid]
    #566680 - 03/01/02 10:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I would add:

7) at night, or somewhere that has a dark area you can get away to.

Others may disagree, but I find tripping on shrooms at night much easier on the mind than tripping during the day. If there is a full moon out, that is by far the best.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: Seuss]
    #566712 - 03/01/02 11:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with that... tripping for the first time in daylight was quite a shock for me.
colours were overly bright and such.

I still don't like tripping in direct sunlight very much.
a clouded day with a nice temperature is fine however for me nowadays.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: PsyFlux]
    #566718 - 03/01/02 11:47 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i cant wait for this batch to finish so i can watch fear and loathing in las vegas!


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: windex]
    #566993 - 03/01/02 04:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

thanx guys! I was told thats its important to know what kind of shrooms you have...i have no clue what kind they are---is that bad...the only other thing i have ever done is marijuana and thats as you guys say is the safest...ive also had my drunk moments which for me is everthing saying im underage. At what age did you guys first trip? im not worried any more.... but i am going to be in a place where people will care if im tripping is that gonna be a problem? is it a noticable thing when people trip...can you tell by looking at them?


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #567079 - 03/01/02 06:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

It's not very important to know what species/strain of mushrooms you are taking. Unless the person who sold them to you grew them him/herself, they probably wouldn't know what species they are either. Most of the dried mushrooms I have ever seen are broken into little bits, making it nearly impossible to correctly identify the strain (at least by eye). But all that doesn't matter. There isn't a huge difference in trip/strength from one species of mushrooms to another. Don't worry about it.

No, you should not trip in a place with people who are going to "care" about you tripping. Especially not for your first time.

As for if anyone can tell...probably. Your pupils will probably get rather large, which makes your eyes look a little odd. You'll probably have your eyes wide open, too. Those two things combined give a tripping person a bit of an off-the-deep-end look. In all fairness...they will know that you are on something.

There's also the fact that you will probably not make a whole lot of sense to anyone who is not tripping. Someone ranting about colors, dogs, the sky, or any number of insane ideas is a dead give away that the person is tripping.

So you're best bet is to find another place to do them. You did read all these posts, didn't you? Don't have too many people around you, and don't have people who are going to care (in a negative way, of course) around you.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: trendal]
    #567111 - 03/01/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i read the post its jus im way paranoid...but this is something i dont ever want to miss out on...so i want to get all the facts down...what can i say im a fucking amature


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #567247 - 03/01/02 10:29 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

If you are paranoid before eating them, it can creep up in your trip. If you start to wig out a bit, just remember, its just a drug and it will be over soon. A change in scenery always helps me when things get rough. More than likely your excitement will prevail and you will have a blast.


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: gonzoschicken]
    #567578 - 03/02/02 10:19 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, don't worry about it eh man. We all started somewhere :-)

I still do think that you shouldn't trip around too many people for your first time, and especially not around people who are going to "care".

To be honest, my first trip was spent around people I a) didn't know at all and b) kept asking me "are you fucked up?" and "are you ok?" all night long. I still had fun (shit, it's nearly impossible not to have fun), but I did get paranoid around the people I didn't know. I would have had a lot more fun without those people.

If you have to...you can get away with doing it around others. Just be warned that they will probably realize what's going on. If they "care" about it enough to do something like call the cops, your parents, or 911...definately don't do it around them.

You never know with some people. You could look like you've lost your sanity to everyone else even though you're having the time of your life. If they don't know what to expect or do, they might panic and call an ambulance or do something really stupid like that. See what I'm getting at?


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Re: hey im a newbie [Re: trendal]
    #567732 - 03/02/02 02:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i did it yeseterday i couldnt wait. I was real upset yesterday and i wanted it to cheer me up....bad i dea! i ended up going to my church dance and was so scared and paranoid. God im such an idiot....i can be very impulsive when im upset...it depressed me when i took 3gs and got no halusinations. Im gonna do it next week end in a calmer place...how much grams of shrooms do you sugest i take? Also my eyes went blood shot is that supposed to happen? every one thought id been smoking weed...well i gota jet so layta and thanx


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