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    #533148 - 01/27/02 06:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I know it is nesseacary to sterlize because it works, but why does it work. Nature doesn't sterilizes substrates that spores land on and germinate. Is it just because so many spores are introduced in the wild that some(if so, what is so special about these conditions and impossible to duplicate without sterlization) germinate in substrates full of bacteria and other competiotors. If one drops a million cubensis spores into water and dumps the water on grass, and covers it with a cow pie in the south, would it be likely for some spores to germinate. By the way, that morel post was meant to be a question on a technique I read which states that before the sclerotia forms, the mycelium should be cased with sterlie perlite, and than the sclerotia should be allowed to form in the perlite layer, and than fruited. This was said to be an extreamly easy way to cultivate morels and may be used at morel mountain in AL. Anyone ever tried it?

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Re: comparison [Re: rungi]
    #533474 - 01/28/02 12:52 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

In nature, mycellium doesnt grow on nutrient rich who grains and flours.

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Re: comparison [Re: phrozendata]
    #534282 - 01/28/02 08:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

what? I have never seen flour in the wild(if that is nature) and mycelium grows on grains wild, in fact, it decomposes them along with bacteria.

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Re: comparison [Re: rungi]
    #534833 - 01/29/02 11:51 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, in the wild, cubes rarely grow on grains because the seeds usually germinate and form plants. Theroetically, if they were to grow on grains in the wild, the grain would be in small quantities, unless it was from some dung. If they were growing from patties of grain fed animals, the grains would not be as high in nutrients. In cultivation, you have large quantities of highly concentrated nutrients, which if it were in the wild would contaminate instantly.

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Re: comparison [Re: phrozendata]
    #534903 - 01/29/02 01:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Each mushroom releases billions of spores that can be carried accros continents but only few land in suitable substrate (some sort of shit in Psilocybe species) and from those few, most are killed by contamintants.
They can be grown in non-sterilized substrate like in nature but you have to count that the rate of success will be very very low (like in nature).

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