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Re: In the beginning there was Chaos. [Re: Droz]
    #5015654 - 12/04/05 09:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

How does Consciousness arise from chaos?

Or maybe the better question is:

How does Consciousness arise in chaos?


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Re: In the beginning there was Chaos. [Re: rwilber]
    #5015695 - 12/04/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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rwilber said:
In the beginning there was Me. everything was perfect until the me decided that its not a lot fun just sitting around doing nothing forever. soo i emploded. forever no longer existed because soon
neither would I. and if it did its wasn't my concern.

soo now,... instead of me, than the I, came the we.

and

Humpty Dumpty

sat on a wall,

Humpty Dumpty

had a great fall.

All the king?s horses,

And all the king?s men,

Couldn?t put Humpty

together again.




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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: In the beginning there was Chaos. [Re: justAkid]
    #5015704 - 12/04/05 09:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

justAkid said:
How does Consciousness arise from chaos?

Or maybe the better question is:

How does Consciousness arise in chaos?




My guess is it is an aspect of the creative principle within Tao. Tonal from Nagual etc. There could be other things besides consciousness that we no nothing of. That's a mind bender.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: In the beginning there was Chaos. [Re: Icelander]
    #5016165 - 12/04/05 11:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Taoism and Zen seem to have had a big influence on Kerry Thornley and his joke diguised as a religion diguised as a joke. Wikipedia even goes as far as saying that Discordianism is "Zen for round-eyes."

(Kerry Thornley is a co-founder of Discordianism and 'The Second Oswald' according to Jim Garrison. He was also a paranoid schizophrenic.)

But back to the topic...
I really don't know enough about physics to make any reasonable statement, but if we define 'Chaos' as sponteniety or randomness, then I would probably disagree with its existence, since that violates casuality. Everything seems to have causes and effects, just because we cannot currently understand the movement of subatomic particles doesn't mean they are necessarily random. We might just not understand subatomic physics yet.
If we define 'Chaos' simply as unrelated information, as the Discordites do, then I would agree with its existence. Since that deals with our awareness and linkages of 'things' that definition falls into the realm of psychology though, not physics.

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