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So I hear LSD is pretty much done...
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:frown: My friend was telling me how 2 years ago he had hookups with many LSD dealers, but after the arrest of Pickard and Apperson, every source he had died out and he can't find it anymore. They all said it's gone. is this true that it might not really ever come back? I haven't gotten to meet lucy yet  :frown:
xxxx://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/sanfran112403.html

I don't want to resort to 5-MeO-AMT.


MOD EDIT: Do not link from the Shroomery to the DEA. It links them up directly with your post. You can supply a broken link but don't provide a working URL.


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"The worst mistake that you can make is to think you're alive when really you're asleep in life's waiting room."

Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (09/21/05 05:30 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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actually from what i am reading on these boards lately lucy is coming back... i remember 3 years ago when i tried my first lsd hit and commented it here all of the american shroomerites were pretty jealous because they wouldn't find any over there...
and just about a month ago there were at least 3 threads a week done by people who had finally gotten their hands on some LSD-25


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: In(di)go]
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Well I'm pretty sure by the time I get it I will be too old to be interested :frown:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight] * 1
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you dont get it man.

it will continue to show humankind the light.

oh, and by the way. its around.

ooooooooooooooooooh yes its around and its good and clean.

help is on the way brother :sun:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: iloveraving]
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iloveraving said:
you dont get it man.

it will continue to show humankind the light.

oh, and by the way. its around.

ooooooooooooooooooh yes its around and its good and clean.

help is on the way brother :sun:


Thats the kind of post i like to see  :sun:

peace man  :smile:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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I have been looking for a good while and with no luck. After getting bunk acid 3 times this summer its starting to really upset me. Shrooms are the same way here tho it blows, have not seen any in atleast 8 months =/

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Mazooki]
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I have access to shrooms which i like, but i sitll wanted to try lsd to feel the energy/more visuals/'happier' feel, as opposed to midnfuck.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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At least it's possible to grow a private stash of mushrooms.  The whole situation is enough to make me wish that the recipe in the Anarchist's Cookbook for making LSD in a bathtub was genuine.  :crymeariver:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: WillieTomg]
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I have been looking for a year without success. It has been flirting with me lately though... I have "almost" gotten some many times now.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Plok]
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I feel ya'lls pain. I was up north for the last couple years and couldn't find it anywhere. I just moved down south and i am getting some this week. Its around... just go searching.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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Limelight said:
I don't want to resort to 5-MeO-AMT.


I had to resort to 5-Meo-AMT last night. I have had real LSD 3 times and never seen it again, 5-Meo-AMT has the lenght and the visuals of acid minus the energy, connection to the world and universe, and music isn't anywhere near as meaning full as it is on LSD. But don't get me wrong, 5-Meo-AMT (or 'White Lightning' as me and my friends call it) is a great trip, trust me! I took 6mg and had none of the bad side effects except for a mild headache at the end of the trip. The visuals were great and I enjoyed every second of the 10 hour trip!

I'm really hoping I can meet up with lucy soon too. I haven't seen her in 3 years. :mushroom2:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: RobMarley420] * 1
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I certainly havn't felt a shortage.. A friend of mine has large quantities and is always available. I feel sorry for everyone who can't get it.. its funny cause theres so much around here.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight] * 1
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LSD will never die.:smirk:


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Plok]
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Plok said:
I have been looking for a year without success. It has been flirting with me lately though... I have "almost" gotten some many times now.


Same here. I met an old hippie in BC whilst tree planting who had a dead solid hookup for another old dude who GAVE IT OUT FREE. Of course I had a bunch of goodies ready for trade but it never panned out due to the job ending before he had any. I have no doubt it was good shit... so close.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I think its disgusting that he got life in prison.... fuck that shit, all the more reason to become a terrorist.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: indica]
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As long as humans know the recipe for LSD-25 it will never die out.

Besides, I'm building a machine with multiple chemical compartments that will mix and synthesize all the right chemicals to make LSD. Good times.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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1...Gather Ergot from the wild or a bag of organic rye
2...Grow the ergot in a broth of water and rye flour
3...Isolate Ergoloids through simple extraction
4...Turn Ergoloids into LSD via a recipy such as this one


See? LSD will honestly not die, but mushrooms will take its place as the primary available psychedelic. LSD will ebb and return like the tides, but the mushrooms will flood the psychedelics market and will simply not be in short supply within a few years, even if not a single spore were sold from today onwards.

Have no fear: LSD is here to stay.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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lsd to feel the energy/more visuals/'happier' feel, as opposed to midnfuck.


Perhaps you are not looking for psychedelic drugs. They can cause mindfuck, not guaranteed. You can't say LSD won't give you a mindfuck, that is just misleading. Psychedelic drugs do that.

The mind "fuck" or "overload" correlates to your own normal reality. It is just too much of it, kind of like showing you yourself, only you didn't want to be all of that too!

Don't believe everything you hear, especially when it comes to drug talk. I have a feeling you are not talking to very knowledgeable people.


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No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT.

You are everything's way of feeling itself.

Happy Schwag, everygodly!

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: mecreateme]
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we got yellow gel caps and peach color paper in fl
and its good as fuck

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: mecreateme]
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mecreateme said:
Quote:
lsd to feel the energy/more visuals/'happier' feel, as opposed to midnfuck.


Perhaps you are not looking for psychedelic drugs. They can cause mindfuck, not guaranteed. You can't say LSD won't give you a mindfuck, that is just misleading. Psychedelic drugs do that.

The mind "fuck" or "overload" correlates to your own normal reality. It is just too much of it, kind of like showing you yourself, only you didn't want to be all of that too!

Don't believe everything you hear, especially when it comes to drug talk. I have a feeling you are not talking to very knowledgeable people.


Thats not what im saying at all. I realize all psychadelics are a mindfuck, im not that foolish!  :smirk:
I was just saying i'd like to try lsd also, in addition to shrooms, to experience the more energy and less body buzz. I actually read it on the shroomery many times that shrooms are more a mental head fuck and lsd is more energy, but still a mind fuck. I said that because i figured someone would jsut be like "eat shrooms, they are close enough to lsd anyway". i was saying i want to experience both. I completely realize both will blow you away.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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i dont know about you guys but here in BC, its pretty booming coz its CAN dollars and potent.

Trust me, Im in 6 hits of that same acid right now


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"Blessed are the peacemakers." Matthew 5:9

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: TheCheat]
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CAN dollars and potent.
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Trust me, Im in 6 hits of that same acid right now



I'm sorry, if you've taken 6 doses of LSD and are online enough to read and write posts you either have massive tolerance or the hits are nowhere near potent.

One or two hits will put an average guy on their ass if they're potent, and they won't be online for a long long time :wink:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
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word

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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CAN dollars and potent.
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Trust me, Im in 6 hits of that same acid right now



I'm sorry, if you've taken 6 doses of LSD and are online enough to read and write posts you either have massive tolerance or the hits are nowhere near potent.

One or two hits will put an average guy on their ass if they're potent, and they won't be online for a long long time :wink:


I concur.


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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
  -Mark Twain

"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters  hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
Jimmy Buffett

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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iloveraving said:
you dont get it man.

it will continue to show humankind the light.

oh, and by the way. its around.

ooooooooooooooooooh yes its around and its good and clean.

help is on the way brother :sun:


that's kind of misleading.... i can sit at home all day hoping for lucy to fall from the sky and... i don't think it will happen. you do have to "look" and "go get it" to some extent ..... that might just be someone calling you up and saying "hey i got some" or it might be you having to make friends with the right people.... but if acquiring lsd were a passive activity i think i would have some by now.

i might also add that i've tried to conjur it up from the dream worlds and take it back with me.....


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

Edited by leery11 (09/19/05 08:59 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: leery11]
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Im got some for the first time yesterday and Im pretty damn sure its potent my friend was on it today. I thought it was never around till i met this guy and not its absolutly everywhere.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
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QuantumMeltdown said:
Wiccan_Seeker said:
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CAN dollars and potent.
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Trust me, Im in 6 hits of that same acid right now



I'm sorry, if you've taken 6 doses of LSD and are online enough to read and write posts you either have massive tolerance or the hits are nowhere near potent.

One or two hits will put an average guy on their ass if they're potent, and they won't be online for a long long time :wink:


I concur.


While I wouldn't prefer to be at the computer reading a message board while on 6 hits of cid, I'm confident that I could do it. I'm basing this confidence on a 8+ hit trip I had earier this year. 7 hits of the Ohms and a liquid splashed sweetart that started it all. The sweetart was soaked with liquid so I don't have a clue how many hits were on it.

I could have still made an inteligeable post that night.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Ekstaza]
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There will always be LSD. There are always new people getting better and better at making that perfect LSD and establishing themselves. if people want it then there will be someone to make it. Well That's Just My Opinion.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Ekstaza]
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Its all over the place, havnt you read the Recent prints thread? People get acid everyday man..I've seen it all over..lots of good stuff.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: TheCheat]
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It's odd, you'd think that in a town like Las Vegas (where I live) you'd be able to find acid, but it seems like the only drugs that exist out here are the dangerous, addictive ones (i.e. Methamphetamine, cocaine). You can also get pot and ecstacy, but it's nearly impossible to find shrooms, and I've never seen LSD or mescaline anywhere out here.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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Lucy is still alive and well. :laugh: :heart:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Ekstaza]
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While I wouldn't prefer to be at the computer reading a message board while on 6 hits of cid, I'm confident that I could do it. I'm basing this confidence on a 8+ hit trip I had earlier this year. 7 hits of the Ohms and a liquid splashed sweetart that started it all. The sweetart was soaked with liquid so I don't have a clue how many hits were on it.

I could have still made an intelligible post that night.


If you can make an intelligible post on 9 hits (or more, as you say) of the acid you're taking...then you're taking fucking awful acid. Two doubled dipped was enough to have me talking to God for twelve hours last year, and I didn't have the mental capacity to turn on my computer, let alone post a message on the Shroomery.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: MycoCat]
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MOD EDIT: No sources! This is not a hookup site.

Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (09/20/05 05:33 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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I would agree that at times it seems LSD is becoming a rarity. Indeed in the common drug market it is not a prevalent force as it once was. In earlier decades psychedellic drugs were very much in-line with a very large minority's mindset, and as such were more demanded and produced. In today's drug market, amphetamines and other, more "hardcore" drugs seem to be taking over where psychedellics once were. However, this is just a perception based upon limited evidence and conjecture, and our own emotions.

LSD is still out there. It can be hard to get, because you need to know people who are serious enough about psychedellics and also reliable, from whom you can get it. Those people don't broadcast "I have LSD! Come and get it" for obvious legal purposes.

However, they're out there, all of us just need to look really hard. Make a goal of it, wake up and go out into the world each day, keeping in mind that one of your goals is to look for LSD.

Myself, LSD is the reason I'm a chemistry major. I have applied my love of both exploration of consciousness and for science into a path which I hope will lead to myself becoming a reliable producer of LSD-25. I hope that some day I will be able to come through when someone I know approaches me and asks if I can get some LSD for him  :grin:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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oh, come'on i was just asking like maybee what town in california seems to have acid? not that im trying to get hooked up by someone

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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Konnrade said:
I would agree that at times it seems LSD is becoming a rarity. Indeed in the common drug market it is not a prevalent force as it once was. In earlier decades psychedellic drugs were very much in-line with a very large minority's mindset, and as such were more demanded and produced. In today's drug market, amphetamines and other, more "hardcore" drugs seem to be taking over where psychedellics once were. However, this is just a perception based upon limited evidence and conjecture, and our own emotions.

LSD is still out there. It can be hard to get, because you need to know people who are serious enough about psychedellics and also reliable, from whom you can get it. Those people don't broadcast "I have LSD! Come and get it" for obvious legal purposes.

However, they're out there, all of us just need to look really hard. Make a goal of it, wake up and go out into the world each day, keeping in mind that one of your goals is to look for LSD.

Myself, LSD is the reason I'm a chemistry major. I have applied my love of both exploration of consciousness and for science into a path which I hope will lead to myself becoming a reliable producer of LSD-25. I hope that some day I will be able to come through when someone I know approaches me and asks if I can get some LSD for him  :grin:




good luck    :thumbup:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: tripstr]
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That's encouraging to hear mskip about the florida area, just moved here from the north. Would love to run into some acid round these parts. I'll have to keep my eyes and ears open...prolly to no avail however.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: tripstr]
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Actually, I could probably make some mediocre to low quality LSD at my level of expertise. I can do extractions and what have you. Would you guys recommend that I try and get my hands dirty with some firsthand tinkering?

If it is indeed possible to culture the ergot, then the rest isn't too complex, assuming I knew where to buy the chemicals.

What do you think? Should I go for it? I want to try, at least!


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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likkewise round my area iv been looking on and off for a couple of months and had a few maybes that never turned out. damn i wana get into some acid


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            five pellets of mescaline, five
            sheets of high powered blotter
            acid, a salt shaker half full of
            cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-
            colored uppers, downers, screamers,
            laughers... Also a quart of tequila,
            a quart of rum, a case of beer, a
            pint of raw ether and two dozen
            amyls"

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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Konnrade said:
Actually, I could probably make some mediocre to low quality LSD at my level of expertise. I can do extractions and what have you. Would you guys recommend that I try and get my hands dirty with some firsthand tinkering?

If it is indeed possible to culture the ergot, then the rest isn't too complex, assuming I knew where to buy the chemicals.

What do you think? Should I go for it? I want to try, at least!


If you have access to the expensive lab equipment and feel you can handle the not easy, but far from impossible lab procedures go for it. Don't let the risk slip your mind either though.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: sublime40oz]
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Actually, I could probably make some mediocre to low quality LSD at my level of expertise.


Ummm... If I could make LSD, I would never admit to it over a discussion board. :tongue: You are lined up for trouble, be careful. Your low quality LSD would not be LSD either.

Plus, I don't think anyone deals with the ergot as you say anymore. There is no need when you can go pick up ergotamine tartate, good luck on finding it though.


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You are everything's way of feeling itself.

Happy Schwag, everygodly!

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: sublime40oz]
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well, not all the lab equipment is necessary. Substitutions are available, although they do of course add both risks and decreases in quality. I'll put the LSD on my list of things to do in the next year or so, and when I've managed to amass the crucial lab equipment I can give it a try. I am after all amassing a laboratory setup for other reasons anyhow (mostly to tinker with extractions, and the occasional batch of explosives for recreational use). Risk is of course a factor as well, but I am a cautious and aware person , especially when I'm in a laboratory setting... something about it keeps me happy to stay on my toes and do things right. (hehe, I'd make a great chemist, too bad for the chemical companies that I chose to be a pilot with a chem degree).

I have no problem with admitting I "could" make LSD. I wouldnt mind saying it in front of the police officers I have known in my life, they know darn well anyone "could" make LSD. personal suspicion has little bearing on legal actions. Search warrants aren't issued for ambiguous hear-say.

As for not winding up with LSD... I would most certainly not consume the first batch I tried. Anyone who has gone through the first 2 weeks of a basic high school chemistry class knows that wannabe scientists whom drink from their beakers have good chances of becoming dead wannabe scientists. However, there are incomplex methods of testing for presence of LSD-25, which gives some indication of reaction success, albeit not of purity.

I'm assuming you meant the risk of unsafe-for-consumption yield occurring. Of course, the legal risk is there too, but that's not too hard at all to avoid. Keeping tight-lipped and low-profile is often enough.

Overall it's just something I'm tempted try eventually when I feel I am competent, able, and prepared to do it safely and effectively.

Oh, and good luck to all in finding LSD in areas where it seems impossible. Be persistent, it may just work out for you! (I for one am going to spend some time this week looking for potential hookups)


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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Keeping tight-lipped and low-profile is often enough.



Well, you have definitely done that haven't you? :blush: :tongue: :wink:

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"could" make LSD. personal suspicion has little bearing on legal actions


Yeah, lets get obvious! If all else fails, make the other poster look like a fool? And just give that telling a police man you can make LSD a try. We both know that is idiotic.:rofl:

Trying to help you out here, be careful, a message board is no where to say you can make LSD. Tight lipped is tight lipped, you said it yourself. Lips become loose over the internet, too. So I would tighten my lips a little more and maybe edit a post if I ever really considered making acid and didn't want to get caught.


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You are everything's way of feeling itself.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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Limelight said:
I don't want to resort to 5-MeO-AMT.


Come man, look where you are... SHROOMery. Grow some mush brotha, you'll be tripping balls in no time.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Hrethic]
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It's scarce in Illinois, cant find it anywhere.
It would be nice, never have tried it.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: RyDog]
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louisiana's been out for a while too. i had one of the last viles sold in this state in 2000 and sold it in one night at a bar not realizing it would be the last acid i see ever.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: mecreateme]
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Actually making LSD is not specifically too hard for someone versed in chemistry. It's getting a high purity product that is challenging, as well as not incapacitating yourself in your lab by accidentally dosing yourself during synth.

R-CO-NR2 + KOH -----> R-COOK + H-NR2
R-COOK + SOCl2 -----> R-CO-Cl [+ SO2 + KCl]
R-CO-Cl + 2 H-N(CH2CH3)2 -----> R-CO-N(CH2CH3)2 [+ (CH3CH2)2NH.HCl]

See? You can make 100.000 doses in a mayonnaise jar using a glass stirring rod if you know your shit. It's a basic chemical reaction (hydrolysis of an amide - creating an acid chloride - creating an amide) It's the purification to letssay Needlepoint purity that's challenging.

So that you can do it is no rarity, but if you're going to do it, best listen to Buddha's Celestial Teaching, which is STFU.

Becoming an LSD chemist is the dream of many here, and let's hope that for some it will come true. You should realize that giving the right person a sporeprint in time will be more important than manufacturing a kilo of LSD: a sporeprint, well cared for, can stand at the base of limitless amounts of 4-HO-DMT for centuries to come while your kilo of LSD can be distributed and eaten within a month.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: MycoCat]
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MycoCat said:

Ekstaza said:
While I wouldn't prefer to be at the computer reading a message board while on 6 hits of cid, I'm confident that I could do it. I'm basing this confidence on a 8+ hit trip I had earlier this year. 7 hits of the Ohms and a liquid splashed sweetart that started it all. The sweetart was soaked with liquid so I don't have a clue how many hits were on it.

I could have still made an intelligible post that night.


If you can make an intelligible post on 9 hits (or more, as you say) of the acid you're taking...then you're taking fucking awful acid. Two doubled dipped was enough to have me talking to God for twelve hours last year, and I didn't have the mental capacity to turn on my computer, let alone post a message on the Shroomery.


The acid in question was used by others who claimed it wiped their third eye clean. The ohms were some pretty good hits. Other hits that I have taken were said to be awesome, but I found them to be weak. The sweetart plashed with liquid was the strongest dose of acid I've found. It was the best of it all and still I wasn't turned into a blethering idiot. I think I'm an acid hardhead.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: mecreateme]
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hehe, forgive my hyperbole... in retrospect, it's pretty darned rediculous. Although it hits on some truths... such as that hear-say is among the weakest and least trustworthy forms of evidence in US law, and that it, unless worded in a very clearly incriminating manner, is rarely grounds for search or seizure. Then again, there's a slim chance that someone might decide to check up on me later on were I to order the mats... so I shall opt to STFU  :tongue2:

But really, in a general sense, LSD is not an exceedingly complex synthesis. It's a challenge no doubt for the newbie, and accidental dosing would just send everything careening into hell, but training and caution can ensure at the very least a safe outcome, if not some form of minor success. Extremely precise synthesis would be hard, and would take a lot of practice and the right equipment, but just yielding a product that could be made consumption ready... that's just  a worthy challenge of learning, that's all. I'm really not afraid of the concept. That should say something (A- I'm a foolhardy idiot or B- I'm competent with chemistry, provided I have a good guide to follow)

I would say it would be great if people who felt so incined were to spend a good deal of time learning chemistry, and studying the synthesis of LSD. If a sufficient number of responsible people were to properly educate and equip themselves, then the entheogen community could in time be presented with a noticeable upwelling of available, safe LSD.

I for one want to go do some more research on the subject. Perhaps someone could recommend a book? I'll also go use the search function, but I figured it was worth asking too :smile:

*edit* sorry for including inappropriate chems in my original post

Edited by Konnrade (09/21/05 06:54 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
1...Gather Ergot from the wild or a bag of organic rye
2...Grow the ergot in a broth of water and rye flour
3...Isolate Ergoloids through simple extraction
4...Turn Ergoloids into LSD via a recipy such as this one


See? LSD will honestly not die, but mushrooms will take its place as the primary available psychedelic. LSD will ebb and return like the tides, but the mushrooms will flood the psychedelics market and will simply not be in short supply within a few years, even if not a single spore were sold from today onwards.

Have no fear: LSD is here to stay.


I wouldn't say that mushrooms are the primary psychedelic, that is, unless you don't consider ecstasy a psychedelic. Ecstasy use is far more rampant than mushroom use, but I myself don't personally consider Ecstasy a psychedelic.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: matchbook]
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Man I really want to try acid. I live in Los Angeles, do you think if I looked long enough I could find some. Or maybe head out to the desert and find some crazy hippies that will sell me some.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: OrangetreeSpider]
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I had the damndest time even trying to make mp3's play on my computer on 2 hits of white unperfs. I would get distracted on tangent constantly, monitor was all bubbly, and the icons seamed really busy. It was then i decided to get a way from the machine.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: baraka]
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"I wouldn't say that mushrooms are the primary psychedelic, that is, unless you don't consider ecstasy a psychedelic. Ecstasy use is far more rampant than mushroom use, but I myself don't personally consider Ecstasy a psychedelic."

Well if you dont consider E a psychadelic, then you WOULD say the mushrooms are the primary psychedelic. Did you think about your post before or during typing it or was this a purposful contradiction of yourself?


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: scatmanrav]
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I had a weird dream last night... I found like 10 sheets of acid for a killer price... from an old friend I would have never expected to get it from. I have a suspicion it is DOB. I taste the paper from one blotter.. Sure enough major bitter taste. I spit out the DOB and go home (tripping slightly).


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: LysergicRide]
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why multiple posts? It's like a copy/paste multiple too. One is enough  :grin:


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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acid is alive and well.. it's been 6 years since the last time i had it or could find it... but thats okay.. i make up for that by having 50 hits on hand... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH thats a 3 year supply. i think i should get another half a sheet.. just to be on the safe side

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: clone]
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you're a lucky one... so many of us are left twiddling our thumbs, growing San Pedro, buying mushrooms... all of which lack so many of the conveniences of LSD. You can't store them indefinitely, they're much harder to hide, dosage can be tricky, they can spoil, they taste awful, you need to take more of them... I envy you!

You darn well better have great experiences with that LSD if you've been so greatly gifted that you can get so much of it  :tongue:. Perhaps you should try and share the wealth with those around you, even if only by reselling it... great karma methinks.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Konnrade]
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its not gone. i bought 2 hits of white unperf'd blotter for $10 bucks each. round the south florida area.my hookup just said he could get more too. so ill be stocking up for sure.
i love mushrooms.but there is no substitute for lsd.i cant wait to trip.its gonna be an uplifting and amazing night


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: rolbz]
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LSD is still around, big time. Its sad though how often even the so-trusted liquid is often a shitty synth's + extracts of lsa plants, mixed with real acid.
If you go see a dead show and hear lavender in reference to acid, your usually being offered a trip off of other lyserg's than pure acid, and if they say it is mixed, its still mixed crap all to often.
It is true, real acid is hard to come by, and crummy acid is quite common among the right "dealer types". Go to a hippy show in the parking lot and dont buy a ticket, just ask them what kind they are selling. If its gel-tab form, its either total garbage or damn near top-quality. Blotter is usually crap, Liquid acid that tasts like mint is a joke, yet Gels dont vary as greatly, its often the best. If the gels have bubbles in it, dont buy it, thats your first que, it's all there is to go by unless you feel like you want to somehow get to know the spun out individual or group you are buying from.
Not that I have not tried some crummy gels, though that was once out of over 100 trips. In my experience, gel-tabs are key to finding real LSD-25.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: stemmer]
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Unperfed blotter can often be really sweet. Though the worst of the crappy acid I have taken was on unperfed. Its astounding how much active hallucinogen they can fit on a blotter if it aint real acid. It happens though, with full effects still obviouse.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: stemmer]
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acid is around and alive. You just have to look 'outside the square you live in' (that's a pretty big hint)

I've been looking for a while now, and without having to go through strings and strings of small-time dealers who deal 5 or 10 or 100 blotters, I was lucky enought to find a source that comes straight from the top, thanks much to heaps of really good, solid searching.

God bless acid, it really is here to stay. I reckon that for every 1000 chemist majors, at least one of them will have the idea of making acid in their heads... god bless those guys too, you are doing millions of people around the globe a world of good.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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Lol, you can get LSD pretty easily.  It's a matter of knowing where to find it.  You won't find it *locally* anymore, unless you live in a big city, most likely.

And yep. I can confirm that a lot of us chem people have more than a notion of making some crystalline light. :lol:

:peace:&:heart:

Edited by ReaperAndRaven (01/08/16 08:00 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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You just bumped a ten year old thread, and while there still was plenty of LSD at that time, the majority was laid super weak. We're talking 50 mics & less per dose.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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How.... how do I keep finding ancient threads?!

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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shit that dry spell must not have included the midwest cause ive been able to get sheets since highschool (2010) tested with three different test kits to assure its real.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: victor947]
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Actually the dry spell did include the Midwest. It was a lot harder to get everywhere, unless you knew people. It was still around, don't get me wrong. It was just that the people up top were slowly releasing crystal, and stretching it by laying low doses & jacking the prices up. This started to improve in 2006-2008 when more was released, and more potent doses became more common again. Though the weak stuff was still everywhere. But LSD in general was far more available at that time then it had been in the earlier part of the millennium. The drought was over by 2006/2007. Wasn't until the past couple of years that actually solidly potent doses began to become more the norm again.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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All cause some people just want that extra buck...
I thought acid was about sharing the love and joy, not about money. But I guess some people can't control themselves.
That reminds me of when I was younger, people would say there's a drought with weed, then a week later no drought, but higher prices for the same thing, or even lower quality. Pretty soon I found out that if you have a couple GOOD people in your circle, there is never anything as a real drought, but the time and effort (and driving) involved... And the greed, which hopefully will reduce in time


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Mike4aco]
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Yeah, it confuses me... I am still tempted to make a bunch (once I have a least a college major in chem under my belt, so a looong way down the road.  And this probably is unrealistic as fuck anyway) and just hand it over to someone to distribute for really low prices, like 2 bucks a hit.

Edited by ReaperAndRaven (01/09/16 11:53 AM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Mike4aco]
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That's a big reason in why I chose to move on from that line of work; it is a business, it is about making money, and there's a lot of bullshit involved. Not that good people aren't still involved, because there are. Not that people involved don't believe it's about more than money, because they definitely do.....that's one reason things have improved so much over the past couple of years. But there's a lot of bullshit involved, lot of greed, lot of hypocrisy, and I was in it to spread the love. So I moved on. That and I was a junkie & shooting dope was more important to me at the time anyway, but I was far from the only one involved who could say that.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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haha one of the biggest vendors on the darknet for L these days is a literal raving psychotic lunatic who talks tremendous amounts of shit to anyone who even remotely criticizes his products or services. even when people say shit like  "man that guys got great prices for a quality product but boy is he an asshole" its enough to make him instantly reach boiling point

id never support that guy because of the fact & i dont fuck with the DNet anyway but its always intruiging to see him losing his mind on a daily basis on reddit and wonder how the hell someone with that much acid could be such a dick


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Sheekle]
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:lol: Par for the course my friend, par for the course. The whole peace,  love & family mentality that a lot of folks have about the L trade is way outdated. Not really how things work anymore, or have worked for quite some time now.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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i sometmes wonder if that dnet kingpin guy has ever taken a dose in his life. i cant imagine the type of life he must've lived to think the way he communicates with other people is even remotely similar to something that could be considered normal

its like the "nitrous mafia" except the acid mafia

GET UR INNOCENT CHILDLIKE WONDER HERE IF U TALK SHIT ON IT ILL KILL U


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Sheekle]
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He probably does take it, along with many other drugs & is just addled as fuck.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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That's where I'm at, I know some good people and I know some bad (greedy) people who only want money. I'm hoping a change of environment will help, and the more you try to meet good people the more they seem to manifest.
That greed is one of the reasons I am going to grow marijuana, if I can go to Colorado and spend 2000 and get a whole pound, why do I spend 2000 at home for a half pound? Rediculous mark up, I hope that in some tiny way I can make a difference and breed a product that I am happy with, maybe the people who I know will respect that. But then again, maybe they have the greeddisease


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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There is still some of the old hippie love going around, but the 2000s dry spell seems to have taken a toll.
Peace, love and sharing is common when there's so much you can do bar shots with it (but, don't), but once it gets scarce watch those promoting love get vicious for the last tab.

The dry spell happened partly because there are so few that both have the skill and will to make it for sale.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Mike4aco]
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I had this grandiose notion that I was gonna reinvigorate the scene, bring the values back & be the pioneer of the next wave. :lol: ah, the earlier 20s.....


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... *DELETED* [Re: Dark_Star]
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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Just get everyone like you in a room together so they can rework how things should be! After I took 500 mics of LSD and comboed it with shrooms I just had this feeling of what happens after we die? The world goes on and what ever you have done has effected everyone, and if it was negative you can't change that. I think its made me more honest and less greedy, I wish it effected everyone like that, cause top most on my mind everyday now is how can I help my fellow man and not take advantage of him


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Daily Doses]
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There is plenty of it where I am. Gonna pick some more up when my guy gets back from Hawaii.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: BrotherManBill]
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Oh, joy... never mind...

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Acid comes in booms and busts because the production quantity is so insanely high more than one or two people making it for an area floods it.
In the 60s before it was made illegal a single German lab supplied the world.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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ReaperAndRaven said:
Yeah, it confuses me... I am still tempted to make a bunch (once I have a least a college major in chem under my belt, so a looong way down the road.  And this probably is unrealistic as fuck anyway) and just hand it over to someone to distribute for really low prices, like 2 bucks a hit.


I don't think the chem is the hard part, that bear guy from the grateful dead made it and lets be honest hes no genius, I think the hardest (and when I say hard I mean extremely hard) is obtaining the precursors and getting the expensive lab equipment without arising suspicion from the feds.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Psyche delics]
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Entirely true.  The chemistry is pretty basic.  Precursors are a nightmare...

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Chemistry isn't all that basic if you want clean product with 0-minimal stereoisomers. A lot of folks like to talk like it is, but none with the experience to back it up. There's a Nick Sand quote somewhere regarding this. And Owsley's girlfriend at the time was a chem whiz.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Well that's true. Which is why I'd get through school first.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Yeah you need to take the time and effort to make a good product. I'd rather spend 20 years to make sure its absolutely as perfect as can be instead of 20 minutes to whip it up really crappy and low grade like lavender or something


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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This is where paper meets world, world wins.
The synthesis itself is more complex than many other drugs but still understandable.
The issue comes with the actual doing.
Some of the steps are highly sensitive, so making sure you are exact is the hard part, errors range anywhere from zero activity to poison.
Whats needed is experience using the equipment and chemicals, or someone who has that experience willing to teach you.
So yes, in fact going to school for it is the only real solution.

Edit to add: Refining the product is good, but it's not like you are going to get a little acid from a partial reaction, it drops to 0 quite fast.

Edited by StygianKnight (01/09/16 06:28 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: StygianKnight]
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Whiiiiich is why *I would at least get a chem major*.  I already have lab time....

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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:thumbup:
The vast majority of people seem to only dream, but if it gets you learning chemistry that seems like a good enough reason as any.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: StygianKnight]
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Hehe.  I'm already a big fan of chemistry.  I got a 99 in HS chem.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Quote:
Dark_Star said: Owsley's girlfriend at the time was a chem whiz.


Ok this makes sense. Lmao


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Are you in college right now reaps?


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Psyche delics]
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Yeah.  Freshman.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Anyone thinking this really doesn't know how to use the internet :wink:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Same here Im actually also planning on switching my major to chem.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Psyche delics]
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Do it!  It's a fun field.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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Yes, it is a very hard thing to pull off.  Then again, it has been done, and most definitely can be done.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Limelight]
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That there's a scarcity of acid these days...

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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:lol: You guys must never look at the dates on these threads....


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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Ooooh that.  No shit...  And no, Dark_Star, I don't.  It keeps fucking me in the ass.  And I prefer frontal.  :oldthread:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Hmm totally missed that. I take back my comment, they didn't have that luxury back then :wink:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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Seems like with RC's like NBome you can't really be so sure now a days....

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: AngelicChemist]
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Sure you can. test kits, labs, etc....


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Exactly. 

I'm thinking of extracting a bunch of LSA and converting it to LSH, then putting it in light-proof capsules for personal use.  It's similar to LSD, but shorter duration, and cheap as fuck to make.  Plus you know exactly what is in it and how strong it is.  But mostly, I just enjoy making stuff.  :lol:

Edited by ReaperAndRaven (01/09/16 09:09 PM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
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Dudes...

ORANGE SUNSHINE, ALD-52, is sold on blotter and as crystal by worldwide RC vendors. Acid dead? Not by a long shot!

ALD-52 blotter can legally be bought in sheets of 100 x 125 mcg for less than 500 bucks. Quantum voleris.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
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It's around for sure, you just need to look and get a little lucky. Even in Cali it's difficult unless you find someone who really trusts you.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Godfather1376]
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We get pretty clean stuff over here. Central/Upstate New York.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
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Orange Sunshine was not ALD-52. That's a myth that has been disproven for a while.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said:
Orange Sunshine was not ALD-52. That's a myth that has been disproven for a while.


From TIHKAL

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ALD-52. 1-Acetyl-N,N-diethyllysergamide. This material has been explored in the 50-175 microgram range and there are a number of human trials reported, with varying conclusions. One found that there was less visual distortion than with LSD and it seems to produce less anxiety and was somewhat less potent than LSD. Another report claimed it was more effective in increasing blood pressure. Yet another could not tell them apart. ALD-52 just may have been the drug that was sold as "Orange Sunshine" during the "Summer of Love" in the late '60's. Or "Orange Sunshine" may have been, really, LSD. This was the focus of a fascinating trial where two defendants were accused of distributing LSD, whereas they claimed that it was ALD-52 which was not an illegal drug. The prosecution claimed that as it hydrolyses readily to LSD, for all intents and purposes it was LSD, and anyway, you had to go through the illegal LSD to get to ALD-52 by any of the known chemical syntheses. The defendants were found guilty. And yet, I do not know who has actually measured the speed or ease of that reaction. If ALD-52 hydrolyses so easily to LSD, and the body is indeed a hydrolytic instrument, then these two drugs should be absolutely equivalent in every particular, This is the ergot equivalent of the psilocybin to psilocin argument, except this is an acetamide rather than a phosphate ester.



Edit: Didn't recognize you Dark Star.

Edited by dixienormous (01/15/16 10:17 AM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: dixienormous]
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That's outdated. There are more recent interviews with the chemists responsible; Nick Sand & Tim Scully where they specifically say that it was LSD. 300 mics of 98% pure LSD to be exact. Lab results from seizures corroborate this.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said:
That's outdated. There are more recent interviews with the chemists responsible; Nick Sand & Tim Scully where they specifically say that it was LSD. 300 mics of 98% pure LSD to be exact. Lab results from seizures corroborate this.


Nick Sands lab in Canada was found to have LSD that was more than 100% pure according to the Canadian authorities, lol. Shulgin thinks their sample degraded that they tested it against or something.

That's good to know though.

Edited by dixienormous (01/15/16 10:20 AM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: dixienormous]
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More than 100% pure. :lol: cop hype, LOL


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
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Ha!
We call it grey goo LSD, so pure every minute it exists another 100µg is produced.

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