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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22758726 - 01/09/16 07:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm totally missed that. I take back my comment, they didn't have that luxury back then :wink:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #22759103 - 01/09/16 08:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Seems like with RC's like NBome you can't really be so sure now a days....

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: AngelicChemist]
    #22759125 - 01/09/16 08:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sure you can. test kits, labs, etc....


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22759265 - 01/09/16 09:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly. 

I'm thinking of extracting a bunch of LSA and converting it to LSH, then putting it in light-proof capsules for personal use.  It's similar to LSD, but shorter duration, and cheap as fuck to make.  Plus you know exactly what is in it and how strong it is.  But mostly, I just enjoy making stuff.  :lol:

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22778911 - 01/14/16 03:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Dudes...

ORANGE SUNSHINE, ALD-52, is sold on blotter and as crystal by worldwide RC vendors. Acid dead? Not by a long shot!

ALD-52 blotter can legally be bought in sheets of 100 x 125 mcg for less than 500 bucks. Quantum voleris.

(No, I won't give you sources)


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
    #22779527 - 01/14/16 06:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's around for sure, you just need to look and get a little lucky. Even in Cali it's difficult unless you find someone who really trusts you.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Godfather1376]
    #22779555 - 01/14/16 06:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We get pretty clean stuff over here. Central/Upstate New York.

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Asante]
    #22781506 - 01/15/16 08:55 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Orange Sunshine was not ALD-52. That's a myth that has been disproven for a while.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22781670 - 01/15/16 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Dark_Star said:
Orange Sunshine was not ALD-52. That's a myth that has been disproven for a while.




From TIHKAL

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ALD-52. 1-Acetyl-N,N-diethyllysergamide. This material has been explored in the 50-175 microgram range and there are a number of human trials reported, with varying conclusions. One found that there was less visual distortion than with LSD and it seems to produce less anxiety and was somewhat less potent than LSD. Another report claimed it was more effective in increasing blood pressure. Yet another could not tell them apart. ALD-52 just may have been the drug that was sold as "Orange Sunshine" during the "Summer of Love" in the late '60's. Or "Orange Sunshine" may have been, really, LSD. This was the focus of a fascinating trial where two defendants were accused of distributing LSD, whereas they claimed that it was ALD-52 which was not an illegal drug. The prosecution claimed that as it hydrolyses readily to LSD, for all intents and purposes it was LSD, and anyway, you had to go through the illegal LSD to get to ALD-52 by any of the known chemical syntheses. The defendants were found guilty. And yet, I do not know who has actually measured the speed or ease of that reaction. If ALD-52 hydrolyses so easily to LSD, and the body is indeed a hydrolytic instrument, then these two drugs should be absolutely equivalent in every particular, This is the ergot equivalent of the psilocybin to psilocin argument, except this is an acetamide rather than a phosphate ester.





Edit: Didn't recognize you Dark Star.

Edited by dixienormous (01/15/16 10:17 AM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: dixienormous]
    #22781682 - 01/15/16 10:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's outdated. There are more recent interviews with the chemists responsible; Nick Sand & Tim Scully where they specifically say that it was LSD. 300 mics of 98% pure LSD to be exact. Lab results from seizures corroborate this.


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22781689 - 01/15/16 10:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Dark_Star said:
That's outdated. There are more recent interviews with the chemists responsible; Nick Sand & Tim Scully where they specifically say that it was LSD. 300 mics of 98% pure LSD to be exact. Lab results from seizures corroborate this.




Nick Sands lab in Canada was found to have LSD that was more than 100% pure according to the Canadian authorities, lol. Shulgin thinks their sample degraded that they tested it against or something.

That's good to know though.

Edited by dixienormous (01/15/16 10:20 AM)

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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: dixienormous]
    #22781694 - 01/15/16 10:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

More than 100% pure. :lol: cop hype, LOL


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Re: So I hear LSD is pretty much done... [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22784069 - 01/15/16 09:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ha!
We call it grey goo LSD, so pure every minute it exists another 100µg is produced.

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