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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>-
    #286029 - 04/05/01 07:39 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Have you tried DMT before? If you haven't lost control yet that one will do it to you!

I realize the doses vary, so it could be more or less.... really I like the control because I entertain myself better than LSD will by itself. Why do so many idiots take LSD? How do they find it fun at all?

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #286057 - 04/05/01 09:02 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I like to keep it low when I'm just tripping. I will take 1-3 hits or so, and go on about life as if I wasn't tripping at all. Do my every day activites (including going to work). It really opens your eyes to see yourself in your everyday life while on acid. When there is some sort of special occations, like a party or I'm going on on the town, I'll drop up to 5 and 6 hits. I never loose control though. And it is true, the lower the amount you take, the more your expanding your mind. When you reach higher doses, you can find it harder to focus, but with time and experience, I have found that higher doses are were the big 'breaks' are found. Follow my #1 rule and no matter how much you take, you'll alays be in 100% control. That advice is... FOOOOOCCCUSSSS! hehe I love saying that ;-)

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Hydro]
    #286068 - 04/05/01 09:18 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You would enjoy going to work on LSD?

This is hilarious to me. I don't think I can quite take you seriously after that remark. Working is the opposite of tripping. working is you being controlled by someone else, this is in the mindset that you work like most people. If however you are into web design i could see this is expanding! lol anyway... focusing is good as long as you are headed in the right direction. Many people can focus and then they start to lose control of themselves because of it! The focus hard but their minds are unballanced and tend to veer off to one side. Keeping inbetween is usually the best method because you get to see both sides.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>-
    #286263 - 04/05/01 03:00 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I agree that the more you take the further from reality you become, but if you go to far at once then you might not eable to remember a lot of what was happening. And just because you do more doesn't mean you learn or absorb more... it is all in your mind. If you are intelligent and experienced enough with LSD then you can easily take in a larger quantity, but what if you take so much that you forget what you were origonally talking about.

The patterns you see in LSD are not just "trippy" they are unbelievable. What is it that makes you see them so well... and why is it that everytime I do acid it is the same drug always, same experience, but the doses differ from place to place.

I want to understand why I can't normally think of these things and why I would need LSD to do so...

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #286299 - 04/05/01 03:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Heres somthing interesting relating to intelligence and patterns:

I have found that people who are not very smart that take the same amount of LSD as my do not see any patterns, or they see much less and they are not as signifigant. It is strange because the patterns are caused by very stimulated brain cells.


also, the reason you may not always think in the way you would like to, and the reason you can on LSD is that LSD is said to open up the other 90% or whatever percent of your unused mind by killing brain cells. What it does is kill the cells in the way of those paths. Im not sure about the legitamacy of this, but its fun to think about...

When i am in this state, i do not become confused or forget anything...

You must understand though that it took using LSD over 100 times to ever experience this. My trips had previously been all the same and much like you describe. Now it is totally different. I think maybe i made myself totally insane, but thats fine because i am happy with who i am and i am happy. that is all that really matters.

I do suggest looking into meditation and then eating some acid and meditating.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>-
    #286379 - 04/05/01 05:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm basicly my own boss were I work. All I do all day is walk. So tripping on a job like that is great! I'm outside, interacting with everyone on the streets all day long. It's a great way to get away and think for 6-8 hours.

About not beeing able to use your mind the same way when your NOT tripping, I disagree. I can put my mind into that state any time I want to. I can't sit down and induce visuals or fuck with my senses, but I can get my thinking paters to work as if I were tripping. Especially when I smoke weed. I just smoke a little bit, and let my mind go off...

Acid is an amazing substance, but I think the human brain is the most amazing part of all...

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Hydro]
    #286389 - 04/05/01 05:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

do you sell your body?



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Alone In The Fire]
    #286505 - 04/05/01 07:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yes

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Futants]
    #286547 - 04/05/01 07:46 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

> I have found that people who are not very smart that take the same amount of LSD as my do not see any patterns, or they see much less and they are not as signifigant. It is strange because the patterns are caused by very stimulated brain cells.


The action of LSD in the brain is largely unknown.

I've been reading a lot of your posts. I think you are highly uninformed and make a lot of stupid assumptions.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>-
    #286556 - 04/05/01 07:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

ha, i was going to say same thing but kid beat me to it.....you are definetly way over-exagerrating on lsd making you"learn" things in life



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Kid]
    #286675 - 04/05/01 10:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yes yes, i know. i make stuff up alot...

would you like a bibliography after all of my posts?

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n449/a03.html?345
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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Kid]
    #286676 - 04/05/01 10:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

yes yes, i know. i make stuff up alot...

would you like a bibliography after all of my posts?

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n449/a03.html?345
and personal experience with stupid people and intelligent people.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Futants]
    #286769 - 04/06/01 12:15 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't believe all you read, the more we evolve the more we know the less we knew. Those post are so full of contradiction it's fun to read. But it's good to analyze right?

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: egolesss]
    #286880 - 04/06/01 02:43 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Kid... you are obviously in a bad mood or something. However, yes of course I learn, incredibly on LSD. I cannot concieve things in regular life that LSD allows me to consider. The first time I took 2 hits of ACID I never EVER knew that anything could be ripped apart and reformed, remade, renoticed, relearned, jesus! Re everything. Rebirth almost, of a new mindset. How can you look so blatently upon something so different to anything else. Psychoactive drugs are one of the KEYS to finding out who you, me and all of us truly are. It's the first step to realizing the barriers that hold back your mind. This is all I can say for now, I am sleepy....

=) gnight all.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #286949 - 04/06/01 06:14 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You have to loose control, to find out that you can TAKE control. You achive that, by walking on that thin line between genius & insane... Trying to dig in our memories, and remember all these important things we have learned in these exterme(OD) situations is what we are trying to do.Only when we remember, we understand that looking with these no-ordinary manners, can be done,but first we have to convince our self of this true lie. Reality then,becomes liquid. which can take any form, you like. control?with lsd?I dont think so....or do i? :)))))))) the thing is, its not essential, its a thing.It is a thing, because you deside to see one.Upon this action lays the truth of control.Its a matter of a decission on what you want to see.In order to make these decissions we have to forget all about those things that remind you that u are the familiar y o u who looks with a particular way.This is difficult.You are surrounded by them.people who know you,remind you, things you do, remind you, things you hear,remind you.In order to move towards the future,one has to forget the ordinary things that attach him to the past , he has to break through the confines of habits.Everything seems new and strangly perfect after that.only then he can actualy see that nothing actually matters and that its a matter of choise,to go on with life.& jump into infinity which is the gift for running towards evolution.,to entirely agree with it,gather energie,.and your worst enemie for doing that, is yourself".h e" consumes energie for the sake of egoism.KILL YOUR EGO.that is the fruit of c o n t r o l.energie used in the right manner.float down stream.release the energie.fuck you.not u.your self.u are nothing.( ok nearly nothing). .No man without a serious reason, picks the path of knowledge...the only thing one does by using drugs for recreational purposes,is fart himself and others.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Sterile]
    #286958 - 04/06/01 07:19 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

well put, and i like the don juan quote. you must read carlos because your post is pretty much what don juan told him all the time.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: otto i love ta get blotto]
    #286982 - 04/06/01 09:01 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

thanx otto, i read carlos all the time... :)))))

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #287210 - 04/06/01 03:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

That's just a matter of perspective. You might be adopting new philosophical views, but are you really gaining knowledge?

Also, I suggest you do some reading about psychiatric investigations into LSD and learning and creativity. LSD is considered (during intoxication) to inhibit the ability to learn and think creatively.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Kid]
    #287294 - 04/06/01 06:03 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Another thing is everyone tends to "read up" on other reports. I'm merley trying to get everyone to DISCUSS about their trips. Reading is not always the best way to learn, first hand experience is much better. You can't read about life, it isn't descriptive enough. Reading can teach you the basics, but life is far to complex, and so is an LSD experience, to be written down and "learned" entirely.

I do gain a lot of knowledge tripping. Maybe you choose not to learn while tripping, that is a choice you make, but I want nothing more than to learn everything I am capable of learning until I find a true understanding of life itself. LSD allows you to open your mind beyond the regular rules of life.

Martix: "FREE YOUR MIND!" "DO YOU THINK THAT'S AIR YOU'RE BREATHING?"

sure it's just a movie, but they make you question life. That make your mind ask itself and other things around it questions. Questions are one of the main reasons we exist. We are the question, and we need to solve ourselves. Learning allows us to find more patterns in life that link together to form an understanding.

Peace.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>-
    #287470 - 04/06/01 11:22 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I have to disagree that taking less LSD will expand the mind more. that is absolutely illogical. The more gammas you take, the more energy you release from your body and you achieve more awareness of energy transactions. This is according to Tim Leary of course. Also, to fully understand a 300 gamma lsd trip a person would have to fully understand nuclear physics. The point with this chemical is to let go. I know what you guys say about keeping focus and to try to stay in control all the time.

I have stopped using acid, but at first I always wanted to stay in control and to relationize every thought, but later on I just got to the point of letting go completely at the extent of giving all the power to the chemist's vibrations.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Futants]
    #287477 - 04/06/01 11:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I find it hard to believe that LSD kills brain cells. LSD is a key to changing consciousness... Let's just say it "re-arranges" consciousness.. Being smart or stupid has nothing to do with this, because when you trip you become aware of your own DNA code, which is passed down to you by your parents and by their parents, like you open up a direct node to it. It destroys all the values, the ethics, that society has put into your mind originally, so it's definately not a mind control drug.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: MrTechnoShaman]
    #287812 - 04/07/01 02:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"I find it hard to believe that LSD kills brain cells. "

Standing upside down kills brain cells... how is taking a psychoactive drug not going to kill any?

Either way, the point I'm making with lower doses is so people don't take too much to REALIZE what is happening. After being experienced and in control, one can find a path and THEN take a lot but at least end up going down a straightened path.

If I had the history of schitzephrenia in my family and I dose 8 hits first time, I could go totally whacko off of them. If I take 1 or 2 I might just go a little insane and be scared enough not to do it again. LSD unlocks things in your brain, yes, but it might not always be for the better of your own mind. Certain thoughts might negate another thought you have lived with your whole life and then you will have mental confrontation. Who is right, me or the LSD (which is really a reflection of your TRUE self). If one believes the acid, they live hapily ever after (supposedly). But if one denies the acid, they almost always go into a bad trip.

Stupid people are not incapable of intelligent thought, they are unaware of it. They do not understand how to realese their mind from the loops that run through it to keep it under control. Control that the goverment and companies you work for use to their advantage... the top people in any company or organization are the ones thinking the fastest and best, and are always coming up with new shit. They are the ones in control of everyone elses minds, and they are the ones that make all the money!

Believe it or not, we are all capable of being in that position, it is all a matter of how we are taught and how our parents teach us at a young age. If you are brought up in a house of crack and booze, your life will be more of a struggle than if you were raised by two of the most intelligent minds on the planet!

Enough said, basically, work your way up to the level in which you wish to be. Leaping there is only a threat to your own consious and you may not experience the trip as well as you should!

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: MrTechnoShaman]
    #287820 - 04/07/01 02:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"It destroys all the values, the ethics, that society has put into your mind originally, so it's definately not a mind control drug."

Are you joking? What happens to a mind with no ethics? It needs to make some... without them one cannot control their mind. If I were to be around someone who was less intelligent than me I could easily follow their train of thought and then take over the control and make them listen to a related topic. I could keep them very interested and they might actually fit my perspectives into their minds much like you are doing right now. The only thing benefitialto my position is that I don't need to deal with what the person had to learn and grow up with first. That is all gone so I can teach them anything I want just like I was their parents. It would be very difficult for them to shut me out of their mind because everytime they seem to go off track, I would trip them out and make them wonder what just hapened. Keep moving on with the disscussion like nothing happened and they won't get how something caught their attention but they don't rmember what it was. Then I explain exactly what happened that trip them out and they realize it was something so simple... link it to another thought and BOOM they are back following your train of thought.

Trust me, mind control on LSD is simple.

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #287926 - 04/07/01 05:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

>Are you joking? What happens to a mind with no ethics? It >needs to make some...

I was talking about DURING the trip.. once the trip is over, the mind has to make sense of all of it and has to put things in the right places.

Basicly you just said that I was less smart than you. Obviously you cannot say this because this is letters typed in a computer. If you were talking to me and interacting in front of my own self, it would be a different thing.

If you were with me, and we were both on lsd, I guess I would challenge you to a mind control test. Telepathy on the other side, with LSD, occurs pretty often. I do have telepathic powers while on LSD, I have successfully made other people understand my thoughts, even if they didn't know that they were my thoughts.

Another thing, what makes somebody more intelligent than another? Could it be that he is conscious of more realities than him? Suppose that a person is more conscious of multiple simultaneous realities, i'm talking computer, TV, VCR, remote control, Radio, telephone, microwave, etc. Would he be more intelligent than the person who is NOT conscious of these?



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: MrTechnoShaman]
    #289466 - 04/10/01 01:03 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"Basicly you just said that I was less smart than you.> If you were talking to me and interacting in front of my own self, it would be a different thing."

What are you talking about? You think I am saying I'm smarter than you?

Ok that is very primitive. You think I care how smart I am in relation to yourself? The topic is based on doing LSD. You analyzed my thought and I finished the thought with my final responce. You would: "challenge 'me' to a mind control test."? Ok buddy. So you feel threatened by my intelligence and you now wish to fight over who is more intelligent?

Telepathy is non-occurent, it is rather realizing what would be said or thought before it happens. They tested the atom bomb with a computer before it happened and the computer "eniac" was right. In this case you would probably consider that telepathic. It's sort of fun to play games with people but it slows your own mind down to theirs, and sometimes that's boring. Trying to trick someone who is more aware (or you would say 'smart') then it is more challenging.

I avoid most confrontation and that's why I don't trip with people like you. I go for more the benefital and meaningful answers of life and tend to ignore trivial questions like: "Who is more intelligent?" Rather, who is more enlightening would be a better question.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #290080 - 04/10/01 10:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: mullen]
    #290415 - 04/11/01 07:22 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I have made my point, point is I have controlled skareo's mind over the computer. computers are psychedelic. they alter consciousness. consciousness is a chemical.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: MrTechnoShaman]
    #290690 - 04/11/01 04:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm gonna' go git me some more uh that there tap water!


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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: uncarved_block]
    #291178 - 04/12/01 12:37 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

not to interfere with the fight...but i think its pointless to make comments about people on the internet--bcuz of my acid use and how little care i have for life in general, if i hear criticism i just listen to it, and if i have something to say that will most likely provoke another angry response, i just forget it ever happened--then everybody is happy...i dunno if any of that made sense but im gonna post it anyway...i dunno if anything i say really makes sense anymore to anyone but me -- again sorry for going off topic with this worthless paragraph dont mind me

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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #291824 - 04/12/01 08:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"Trust me, mind control on LSD is simple."

Interesting that you have that judgement, becauase the United States Government concluded otherwise....are you saying that you have now done studies on this and know that LSD will allow you to control the mind of everyone who uses it? Hardly.

As far as the control aspect of lsd, its there, it just takes a particular type of personality to be able to do it.

For me, my personality type is INTP, so naturally, im extremely analytical and logical, make free associations easily and take in all information before making decisions. So, actually, what is interesting is that psychedelics dont give me THAT much of a mindfuck other than allowing me to learn different perspectives to look at particular things from, the actual thought processes that are involved remain BASICALLY the same (yes, they change, but overall, its remarkably similar for me)

However, since i am more of a "T" person, mushrooms are actually significantly more difficult for me than lsd. Mushrooms cause my emotions to go wild and out of control. Then i start dwelling on things and end up having a bad time. This happens maybe 1/3 of the time when i take them. Its fine, i learn a hell of alot, but for me, lsd is an "easier" drug, and it just matches my personality a bit better.

Friends of mine who are more of an "F" personality type enjoy mushrooms alot more. They end up having exactly the opposite feelings as i do...

Just some interesting observations i have made....



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #291897 - 04/12/01 10:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

> I do gain a lot of knowledge tripping.

Please verify to me your acquiring of knowledge. Perhaps you are deluding yourself and assuming that you know things.

> Learning allows us to find more patterns in life that link together to form an understanding.

And if the Universe is random and chaotic what's the value in finding patterns. Ever heard of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: MrTechnoShaman]
    #291899 - 04/12/01 10:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

there's no evidence of LSD killing brain cells. Scientific literature admits this.



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    #291901 - 04/12/01 10:32 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

>Standing upside down kills brain cells... how is taking a psychoactive drug not going to kill any?



You're a fucking idiot.



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    #291904 - 04/12/01 10:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

What happens to a mind with no ethics?

I have no ethics, but experience the subjective sensation of being responsible for my actions. My lack of ethics allows me to rationalize criminal behaviour.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: skareo]
    #291909 - 04/12/01 10:37 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Rather, who is more enlightening would be a better question.


And you're an "enlightening" person.

Instead of trying to convince us all of your philosophies validity, why don't you try critically thinking about your assumptions for a while. If you do that, you'll probably lead to the same path I've hit: extremely skeptical nihilism.



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: Kid]
    #291911 - 04/12/01 10:40 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

>>You're a fucking idiot.

Agreed. :)

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    #292030 - 04/13/01 02:17 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"And if the Universe is random and chaotic what's the value in finding patterns. Ever heard of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle?
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Almost all knowledge is based upon patterns. Our entire frame of reference for what "reality" IS is based upon our inherent ability to recognize patterns.

As far as the uncertainty principle, it deals with the position in space of electrons along the shells of the atom (i dont know anythign about it really, i wouldnt be surprised if it applies to any particle in quantum mechanics). It basically states that it is impossible to predict or measure the location of the electron in any point in space. Then, of course there is the whole quantum leap thing where electrons vanish and then reappear at different points in space... It however does NOT address any behavior in the grander scale, above the level of quantum mechanics. That is the really interesting part of reality....go small enough, and none of our own rules apply.

Here's a use for a pattern....

Throw an apple straight up into the air. It falls and hits you on the head. Of course, you COULD simply continue to do that, but hopefull you would recognize the PATTERN and understand that its probably best not to in the future...



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Re: -<>- LSD OVERDOSE -<>- [Re: UrQuattro]
    #292205 - 04/13/01 11:48 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

re: Heisenberg...

> It basically states that it is impossible to predict or measure the location of the electron in any point in space.

One can't measure the the vector and position of an atomic particle simultaneously. Thus, prediction of its future location becomes subject to probability waves.

>It however does NOT address any behavior in the grander scale, above the level of quantum mechanics.

No, no but it does! It doesn't explicitly state this, but it's an implicit part of the principle: We cannot predict subatomic a particle's behaviour. Everything in the universe is made up of these particles according to modern theories. What does this imply to do? We can't predict anything on any level. Our predictions are all subject to interpretations. Science can't seem to interpret the behaviour of subatomic particles. The very fabric of space seems chaotic on tiny scales.

> Here's a use for a pattern....

Throw an apple straight up into the air. It falls and hits you on the head. Of course, you COULD simply continue to do that, but hopefull you would recognize the PATTERN and understand that its probably best not to in the future...


yeah, I understand that, but that's a human use. What I'm trying to ask is does that really have any "cosmic" value?



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