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InvisibleSwami
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Britain to pass Indirect Terrorism Law
    #4454411 - 07/26/05 05:37 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Prime Minister Tony Blair's government has considerably tightened anti-terror laws in the past five years, but ministers want new powers to tackle those on the fringes of terrorism.

The new legislation is likely to outlaw "indirect incitement" of terrorism, including praising those who carry out attacks - a new offense designed to counter extremist Islamist clerics blamed for radicalizing pockets of disaffected Muslim youth in Britain.

The legislation is also likely to make it an offense to receive training in terrorist techniques in Britain or abroad and to plan a terrorist act. Associating with members of a banned terrorist organization is also likely to be banned.

The government also is reviewing its powers to exclude and deport people from Britain - again with the hope of acting against radical clerics.

Blair's government has struggled in the past to push anti-terrorism legislation through Parliament due to opposition from lawmakers fearing new measures would erode civil rights. In the wake of the London attacks, the government is trying to build consensus on the way ahead.


While these laws sound reasonable, they will end up being abused as they always are.

The thought police: "We saw you smiling when the photos of the dead and injured were aired. You are under arrest!"


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Britian to pass Indirect Terrorism Law [Re: Swami]
    #4455004 - 07/26/05 10:19 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Hatred Bill goes ahead despite Church protests
By Brendan Carlin, Political Correspondent
(Filed: 12/07/2005)

The Government pressed ahead last night with plans to outlaw incitement to religious hatred despite warnings from Christians that the move would worsen relations between different faiths.

Representatives of more than 1,000 individual churches across the country - including Anglican, Roman Catholic and Presbyterian faiths - handed in a petition to Downing Street, urging Tony Blair to ditch the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill.


Tony Blair has been warned the Bill will cause friction
The Bill, which returned to the Commons for its final stages before it goes to the Lords, creates a maximum seven-year jail sentence for anyone convicted of intending to stir up religious hatred.

In a new concession last night, ministers moved amendments to clarify that citizen's arrest under the proposed legislation would not be possible.

The move follows concern that otherwise, people could take offence at comments in a public meeting or even in a church, and simply seek to arrest the speaker.

Both the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats oppose the new law. Dominic Grieve, the shadow attorney general, said yesterday that the Bill's prospects of getting through the Lords "are pretty limited".

Mr Grieve reaffirmed fears that as the Bill failed to define religion, it could be used to protect Satanists.

However, Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, insists that while new legislation is necessary it will not prevent people telling jokes about religion or curb religious freedom.

The churches' petition warned that criminalising religious hatred "could well have the opposite effect to that intended" and would infringe freedom of speech.

Gathered in just five days to match the speed with which the Government is pushing through the plans, the petition says: "The mere quoting of texts from both the Koran and the Bible could be captured and criminalised by this law." It adds: "Extremists have shown themselves willing to use malicious prosecution to further their purposes and this law would present such prosecution opportunities against all religious communities."

The churches' fears were supported by Danny Nalliah, 40, a Pentecostal pastor, who last year was found to have breached a religious vilification law in the Australian state of Victoria after complaints from Muslims.

Mr Nalliah came to the Commons to warn MPs that they were about to make the same unintended mistakes as Australian politicians.

But Mr Clarke made clear that the Government intended to press ahead with the proposal. An aide to the Home Secretary insisted that the proposed British law was much less severe than the Australian legislation.

The aide acknowledged that unlike in Victoria where the legislation was part of the civil code, the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill in the UK would create a criminal offence. But the aide insisted nonetheless that the Australian version was "more restrictive and far wider in scope than ours would be".

Mr Nalliah told The Daily Telegraph that he fell foul of the law for quoting from the Koran at a seminar on Islam in March 2002.

In December last year, a judge upheld a complaint from the Islamic Council of Victoria that Muslims had been vilified in the seminar, a newsletter and a website article.

Mr Nalliah and his co-defendant, Daniel Scot, have now appealed to the Australian supreme court after being ordered to apologise to the Islamic Council and to spend about ?30,000 on newspaper advertisements explaining the ruling.

Mr Nalliah, who faces up to six months in jail if his appeal fails and he continues to defy the ruling, warned last night that in Australia, "the law has caused severe tensions between Christians and Muslims".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht.../ixnewstop.html


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Re: Britian to pass Indirect Terrorism Law [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4547598 - 08/17/05 05:05 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Amnesty Magazine


Charting the 'War on Terrorism'

From Australia to Zimbabwe, using new laws and old-fashioned brute force, governments are sacrificing human rights on the altar of antiterrorism.

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z



Australia
Antiterrorism legislation before the Federal Parliament includes proposals to allow the attorney general to proscribe certain groups and reduce rights for suspects in custody. Stricter asylum legislation was expedited after 9/11.

Austria
In October a Vienna court ordered the extradition of an Egyptian asylum-seeker at serious risk of torture if repatriated. The Austrian Supreme Court had refused his extradition in 1999.

Belarus
A law passed in December permits search of homes and offices without prior judicial authority. It allows the head of an antiterrorist operation to regulate media activities near such operations.

Bosnia-Herzegovina
The government extradited six Algerians to the U.S., defying a ruling from Bosnia's Human Rights Chamber. Troops from the international Stabilization Force reportedly detained incommunicado men of Middle Eastern origin.




Canada
The December antiterrorism act improved on earlier drafts, but risks of criminalizing peaceful activity and of unfair trials remain. Another new law hinders asylum applications. On April 29 the government presented a bill on public safety under which the armed forces could declare ?controlled access zones? wherever military equipment is kept.

China
After 9/11 Beijing intensified its crackdown on Uighur opponents of Chinese rule in Xinjiang, claiming they are linked to ?international terrorism.? Officials have reportedly detained thousands and placed new restrictions on the religious rights of Muslims. On December 29 China amended its criminal law to ?punish terrorist crimes, ensure national security and uphold social order.?

Colombia
In February President Andres Pastrana resumed the civil war in which all sides have committed atrocities. He announced that rebels would be treated as terrorists ?[a]nd in that, the world supports us.? The Constitutional Court ruled as unconstitutional an August national security law that would have strengthened impunity by giving police and judicial powers to armed forces in conflict zones. Candidates in the May 26 presidential election proposed further measures, and new security legislation is likely.

Cuba
An expanded antiterrorism law passed on December 20 reaffirmed the death penalty in the most extreme cases.

Denmark
Under a proposed amendment to the penal code, lawyers and counselors of suspects risk being seen as assisting terrorism. Proposed amendments to the Aliens Act would permit refusal of residence permits on grounds not only of state security but also of public order, security, and health.




Egypt
Since 9/11 more civilians have been referred to military courts that violate fundamental requirements of international law and standards for fair trial. Egyptian Prime Minister Atef Abeid said, ?After these horrible crimes committed in New York and Virginia, maybe Western countries should begin to think of Egypt's own fight against terror as their new model.?

France
Two Islamic radicals were deported to Algeria, where they may face severe abuse. The October Law on Everyday Security strengthens government search and surveillance powers.

Germany
New legislation expands grounds for rejecting asylum claims and enables banning groups that ?support organizations in or out of Germany that cause, threaten or practice assaults against persons or things or if they are a danger to public order and security.?

Greece
Denial of access to asylum procedures.

Hungary
After 9/11, Afghan asylum seekers were removed from open reception centers to special high security detention facilities.




India
The March Prevention of Terrorism Act allows police to hold suspects for three months without charge? and for three additional months with approval from a special court. It contradicts the Indian Evidence Act by making confessions to a police officer admissible at trial. It also criminalizes journalists or other professionals for meeting with any member of a ?terrorist organization,? whatever the purpose.

Indonesia
The Minister of Justice and Human Rights announced that a proposed antiterrorism bill to be submitted to the House of Representatives includes sentences that range from five years to death for disrupting security and damaging public facilities.

Israel
Israel/Occupied Territories After 9/11, Israeli forces stepped up military operations in the Occupied Territories. On Sept. 14 Defense Minister Binyamin Ben Elizier said, ?It is a fact that we have killed 14 Palestinians in Jenin, Kabatyeh and Tammum, with the world remaining absolutely silent.?

Italy
A planned reform of the security services includes authorization for agents to break the law during operations authorized for reasons of state security by the head of government.

Jordan
Amendments to the penal code in October expanded ?terrorism? to include damaging the environment; public, private, or international organizations; or diplomatic missions. The amendments also strengthened powers toshut any publication deemed to have published false or libelous information that could ?undermine national unity or the country's reputation.?

Kazakstan
Kazakstan expelled more than 1,000 Tajik and Kyrgyz migrants after September 11. Local human rights monitors are concerned that many deportees had no access to due process.

Kyrgyzstan
Authorities, citing security reasons, stepped up efforts to deport undocumented residents. As of October 2, they had expelled 300 people, mostly Tajiks and Afghans. Some had been living in Kyrgyzstan for 20 years or more; some were refugees from the Tajik civil war of the 1990s.




Macedonia
The Interior Ministry announced that seven men of South Asian appearance killed by the Macedonian police on March 2 were Pakistani Islamists who died in a shootout. The ministry offered no conclusive evidence for its claims that the men were planning attacks on Western embassies and were linked to local Albanian organizations. Other government sources told reporters that no police were injured in the incident, no cartridges or bullets were found at the site, and the weapons allegedly seized there showed no sign of having been fired.

Malaysia
Since September 2001 the Internal Security Act of 1960 has been used to detain at least 40 Malaysians accused of links to ?international terrorism.? The act allows detention without trial.

Mauritius
?Acts of terrorism? as defined in new legislation may be interpreted to undermine fundamental rights. The law also allows authorities to deny asylum to those suspected of ?international terrorism.?

Nepal
After the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) withdrew from peace talks with the government and attacked police and army posts in November, the government declared a state of emergency and promulgated the Terrorism and Disruptive Activities Ordinance. Dozens of people, including lawyers, students, teachers, and journalists have been arrested under the law, which allows preventive detention for up to 90 days, or 180 days with Home Ministry approval.

New Zealand
Local human rights organizations are concerned that the draft antiterrorism bill could criminalize legitimate protest, designate people as terrorists without a trial, and give the authorities more power to spy on citizens.




Pakistan
The January Antiterrorism Amendment Ordinance will undermine judicial independence by bringing military officers onto panels of judges trying ?terrorist? offenses. These antiterrorist courts impose most of Pakistan's death sentences. Since 9/11 the government has attempted to suppress demonstrations by religious parties.

Philippines
Human rights groups report indiscriminate mass arrests and torture of suspected members of and sympathizers with the Abu Sayyaf Group, which allegedly has links to Al Qaeda. After an April 21 bombing killed 15 people, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo asked Congress to pass the pending antiterrorism bill. Currently, foreign ?terrorist? suspects are detained indefinitely under old immigration law.

Russia
Officials cited the global fight against ?terrorism? to counter criticism of summary executions, torture, and arbitrary arrests in Chechnya. Since 9/11 at least one person a week has disappeared in Chechnya after arrest by Russian forces.




Singapore
Thirteen suspected Islamic militants received two-year detention orders under the Internal Security Act, which allows detention without charge or trial.

South Africa
The draft antiterrorism bill could criminalize strikes and attempts by non-violent demonstrators to deliver a petition to a foreign embassy. The bill also provides for detention without trial and for wider police powers to search vehicles.

South Korea
The Terrorism Prevention Bill would extend the death penalty to leaders of a ?terrorist organization.? It could also deny asylum-seekers a fair and satisfactory appeals procedure.

Spain
A government-proposed law regulating political activism could ban political parties that encourage ?hatred, violence, and social confrontation?; challenge the legitimacy of democratic institutions; or ?promote a culture of civil confrontation.? The law is aimed at Batasuna, the political wing of the Basque separatist movement, ETA.

Sweden
Two Egyptian asylum-seekers were forcibly returned to Egypt in December 2001 after their claims were rejected in an unfair procedure.




Thailand
In March Thai police detained 25 foreigners at the request of U.S. agencies. A senior police officer said the U.S. had requested more arrests as part of a joint operation against ?international terrorism.? Initial investigations showed the 25 detaineees had no connection to ?terrorist networks.?

Uganda
The March Antiterrorism Act introduces a mandatory death sentence for convicted terrorists. Publishing news ?likely to promote terrorism? can lead to a 10-year prison sentence.

UK
The Antiterrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 permits indefinite detention of non-UK nationals without charge or trial if the home secretary reasonably believes and suspects they are a national security risk and an ?international terrorist.? The belief and suspicion may be based on secret evidence.

USA
More than 1,000 people, most from Middle Eastern or Muslim countries, were arrested after 9/11; some 300 may remain in detention. The October USA Patriot Act allows indefinite detention of non-deportable, non-U.S. citizens if the attorney general has ?reasonable grounds to believe? they are engaged in terrorist activities or endanger national security. On November 15 President George Bush issued a Military Order that non-U.S. nationals accused of terrorism could be tried by military commissions; this order infringes on rights to a fair trial.

Uzbekistan
The government is justifying its crackdown on peaceful Muslims under a campaign against the armed opposition Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. In late September nine suspected members of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, an Islamist group not implicated in violent acts, were sentenced to long prison terms. Human rights observers said that one of the charges??having links to Osama bin Laden??was not backed by convincing evidence at the trial.




Yemen
Following 9/11 the government carried out widespread arrests of members of Islamist organizations and anyone who had aroused official suspicion, including a man alleged to be Osama bin Laden's father-in-law. The government also closed down some Islamic educational institutions and deported foreign students.

Zimbabwe
In the run-up to the March presidential elections, President Robert Mugabe labeled his opponents ?terrorists,? thus appearing to condone violent attacks by his supporters on his political opponents. The January Public Order Security Act allows police to ban demonstrations and criminalizes criticism of the police, army, and president. A new Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act allows the government to ban newspapers and imprison journalists for articles that portray the government in a negative light.

European Union
A proposed comprehensive action plan, dubbed an ?antiterrorism road map,? envisages legislation on a European arrest warrant, an EU-wide definition of terrorism, an EU public prosecutions agency, an EU mechanism for freezing suspects' assets, examination of immigration and asylum laws, and a mechanism to prosecute computer crime. The definition of terrorism is broad enough to criminalize peaceful activities.

The Arab League
In January Arab Ministers of the Interior agreed on measures to ?combat terrorism? and pledged to implement the Arab Convention for the Suppression of Terrorism. It defines ?terrorism? so broadly that it is open to abuse. It widens the scope of the death penalty in many countries.




http://www.amnestyusa.org/magazine/war_terrorism.html

Edited by Los_Pepes (08/17/05 05:08 PM)

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Re: Britian to pass Indirect Terrorism Law [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4547746 - 08/17/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't sound like it's a popular time to be a Muslim.

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Re: Britian to pass Indirect Terrorism Law [Re: bukkake]
    #4548110 - 08/17/05 06:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Metro Map in Hands of Terrorists, Can't Fold It Up Properly
WTOP reports that a member of an "al-Qaeda affiliated" and password-protected message board posted a map of the Washington Metro system, along with a note encouraging a chemical attack. Of course, a map of the Metro system is also available on the Metro system website, and, frankly, the Metro administration has been doing a fine job of destroying the system all on their own. On the plus side: What makes anyone think al Qaeda can figure the map out, when your average family of four from Missouri can't?

Metro Acting Orange [WTOP]
Jihadist Forum Member Advocates a Chemical Weapon Attack on the Washington Metro Subway System [SITE Institute]
Maps [WMATA]
Finally, Good News About the Metro System [Wonkette]

READ MORE: al-qaeda , metro section , terrorism , war on terror


http://www.wonkette.com/politics//metro-...erly-117626.php

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