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Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr)
    #4516012 - 08/09/05 11:24 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr)? I wouldlove to know what exactly that means. I know you can buy the toads on the .net and some pet stores. I just recently found a user selling one on a net store for around 80$ (bid). I wanna know if the toad isnt messed with and still produces Meo-DMT? So basicaly what is a Bufo Alvarius Toad with this description not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr?


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516039 - 08/09/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My bet, would be that the seller unscrupulously is trying to play with search engines to his advantage.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: gdman]
    #4516054 - 08/09/05 11:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Ok I found i ton e-bay... sellers history is more than clean every feedback was how great and how good and how trusting he is. He even has pictures of the toad he has. Eeven a 100% refund except handeling charges. Or are you saying that there is no way to make the toad stop producing venom? In which case would mean it does and will have the 5 Me0-DMT extract..??? I just need toknow if thats possible and if so he means that toad wont have venom... I need to know if the toad will have the venom.

I need more details please, thanks in advance.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516088 - 08/09/05 11:38 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I think it would be cool to have one, but I cant see paying that kind of money.

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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516115 - 08/09/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Please don't buy the animal for the drug, use the plant sources of 5-meo.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: gdman]
    #4516237 - 08/09/05 11:59 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

To clear things up i have already bidded... made an aquarium an dplan to take good care of it.. People milk these toads all the time i've seen it. I came here for just a question it doesnt mean I wanna do it for the drugs Im just asking will.. the toad have the venom containing this drug.. I dont see how you can stop the toad from producing its venom I just wanna know if it will or wont I know this is the best place to ask that and get answers and thats all I want.

The whole search engine thing seems accurate. Not doesnt go with those words and every one is an extract. I mean not kratom ama. blah blah just seems like he wants those there so people can find it easier. Im unsure.. I wanna be sure... and Im asking help on this forums frompeoplelike you.. can you pleaese help me.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516246 - 08/10/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just telling you, don't buy the animal soly for the drug, use plants that contain 5-meo. It's a hell of a lot easier and not tramatic for any animal.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: gdman]
    #4516262 - 08/10/05 12:04 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate that and I know this thanks. Its just even though im buying the toad I wanna know either way what it has. Do you think it has the venom not soly the drug even thgh that would mean it does? What would you think when you seen that (not kratom etc.)and you really just wanted the toad?

Its like saying I got this toad other day cause I like to collect them and my daughter just handled it and alarmed it so the venom gotall over her. Now it said (not kratom) blah blah and now she is dead. Thats not the case but its a pretty good example :smile: thanks in advance. This guy just found the toad around his house in ohio is there anyway he could surgicaly stopped the venom?


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Edited by Savako (08/10/05 12:09 AM)


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516376 - 08/10/05 12:26 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

BTW to use the venom you have to get the frog to squirt it out on a plate or some glass and then wait till it drys and then smoke it. So if if just squirted on some little girl it wouldn't do anything.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: gdman]
    #4516530 - 08/10/05 12:48 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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gdman said:
I'm just telling you, don't buy the animal soly for the drug, use plants that contain 5-meo. It's a hell of a lot easier and not tramatic for any animal.




So your suggesting KILLING a plant is better then TRAMATIZING an animal? WHY?


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #4516776 - 08/10/05 01:56 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The last two replies are wrong. Firstly the animal isnt tramatized matter a fact it doesnt do anything bad to the frog no harm done at all. Specialy the fact im giving it a home! Also the venom squirtingon the child..pfft it is dangerous if it got in the eyes or open wound... nuff said. All I asked is if that (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr)is a load of crap.. thanks for the mix up  :sad:

Also I checked Erowids site and know a previous site on how to milk them but thats not what I asked. *sigh*


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Hail Shroomery!




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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4516870 - 08/10/05 03:02 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The Colorado River Toad is available through a number of reputable herpatological and enthobotanical pages. Bouncing Bear Botanicals carries them, a male and a female would produce hundreds more. I've thought of purchasing them but I know I wouldn't want to possibly injure them by "milking" their glands. They'd be cool to have though, just to preserve and breed hallucinogenic species.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4517027 - 08/10/05 04:36 AM (11 years, 4 months ago)

The toad still has venom, but $80 is too much and I agree with GDman, don't harm the poor helpless toad.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4517375 - 08/10/05 10:24 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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The last two replies are wrong. Firstly the animal isnt tramatized matter a fact it doesnt do anything bad to the frog no harm done at all. Specialy the fact im giving it a home! Also the venom squirtingon the child..pfft it is dangerous if it got in the eyes or open wound... nuff said. All I asked is if that (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr)is a load of crap.. thanks for the mix up  :sad:

Also I checked Erowids site and know a previous site on how to milk them but thats not what I asked. *sigh*




LOL dude. How is it wrong of me to ask that question?


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #4519015 - 08/10/05 07:02 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Because its not your post, its his post, and your off topic in it.

Sorry I dont have an answer for you. I would imagine the toad would stll have the venom though, I dont believe it can be "stopped".


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4519161 - 08/10/05 07:52 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

milking the toad for venom isn't harming it. i'd say get the toad if you're going to take care of it and everything, and not just use it for dmt. i think toads are really cool animals. there used to be this toad who lived near my house, and whenever i got home, he would hop over to the front door and let you pet him. he loved the attention. he always hopped on over to me when i was outside. until one of my dads asshole friends stepped on the poor thing.

if you want to milk it every once in awhile that's fine, just make sure you know how to do it without hurting the toad. you shouldnt be milking him all the time, just every once in awhile.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: nightkrawler]
    #4519277 - 08/10/05 08:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

bouncing bear seems to say that you cannot get DMT from them and in fact they are poisonous and shouldn't be used for those kinds of things... at least that's what I remember reading.

maybe they just don't want a bunch of mean kids hurting them..... I think it's kind of wrong to take an animal into capitivity unless you can really give it a GOOD environment, not some small aquarium where it doesn't have much room to move or be free.

This coming from me who feels bad when his non-hallucinagenic plants die. (though my current one is regrowing itself, i just don't really know what to do with it other than leave it alone and occasionally water it)


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4519487 - 08/10/05 09:51 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

So on this forum it is looked down upon to post your opinions/thoughts related to a topic *someone else* started a thread on, just because it is not directly related to the question asked?

Just trying to clarify, wouldn?t want to ruffle anyone?s feathers  :laugh:


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4519674 - 08/10/05 10:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Where I live in Arizona there is a pond across the street from me that only fills up in the monsoon. Seven years ago there used to be these big fat bufo toads every where after a good monsoon storm. Unfortunately, I did not know about their "magic" at that time. Now that I know and actively look for them, they are gone because local four wheelers like to plow through the mud pit, and in doing so, destroy the hibernating toads. I do not see anything harmful about milking the venom glands of these toads.


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Re: Bufo Alvarius Toad (not kratom amanita muscaria hbwr) [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #4519988 - 08/10/05 11:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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So on this forum it is looked down upon to post your opinions/thoughts related to a topic *someone else* started a thread on, just because it is not directly related to the question asked?

Just trying to clarify, wouldn?t want to ruffle anyone?s feathers  :laugh:




In most forums its called "hi jacking a thread" and yes, is generally looked down upon. The person obviously was taking offense to that because everyone was comming it with off topic things, not answering his question. He didnt single you out, you were just another person who posted things that have nothing to do with why the post was created.

I dont really care, but I feel the need to explain things when I see confusion.


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